2011-01-12 01:04 <wpwrak> zrafa: thanks ! seems that debian ran into the same problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515431
2011-01-12 01:04 <wpwrak> zrafa: and there's even a worse incarnation, for beta releases: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=563344
2011-01-12 03:00 <wpwrak> so .. the bad spectrum is not a new problem: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/wpan/tst-tx/
2011-01-12 03:03 <wpwrak> (in a way, that's good - means that i can debug it with the latest boards, which support the constant frequency test mode)
2011-01-12 06:14 <kristianpaul> oh, adam is cooking something :-)
2011-01-12 06:24 <wolfspraul> cooking what?
2011-01-12 08:37 <wpwrak> hmm .. the clock looks rather awful. with lots of noise just in the FM range.
2011-01-12 08:59 <wolfspraul> that's the ben clock you are reusing?
2011-01-12 09:19 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: i dont understand very well cause i traduced his blog entry (http://east3yrswest3yrs.blogspot.com/2011/01/blog-post_12.html)
2011-01-12 09:20 <kristianpaul> Looks healthy
2011-01-12 09:20 <wolfspraul> ah I see
2011-01-12 09:22 <kristianpaul> :-)
2011-01-12 09:24 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: yes. but it seems that i'm catching the FM outside the ben.
2011-01-12 09:24 <qi-bot> [commit] Wolfgang Spraul: added snippet about new metal sheet http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/26e2d32
2011-01-12 09:26 <wpwrak> let
2011-01-12 09:26 <wpwrak> 's make the caps a little larger ...
2011-01-12 09:34 <wpwrak> that got rid of some of the reflections, but not the "hill"
2011-01-12 10:09 <wpwrak> hmm. now the question is how much of this horror is real and how much comes from the scope probe. http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/wpan/rework-20110112/
2011-01-12 10:10 <wpwrak> the DC offset is rather puzzling, too
2011-01-12 12:01 <qi-bot> [commit] Joachim Steiger:  added missing background image http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/5228a87
2011-01-12 12:01 <qi-bot> [commit] Joachim Steiger: Merge branch 'master' of git@projects.qi-hardware.com:m1 http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/a0552c4
2011-01-12 12:02 <wolfspra1l> roh: there it is, nice :-)
2011-01-12 12:02 <wolfspra1l> thanks!
2011-01-12 12:16 <qi-bot> [commit] Joachim Steiger:  added more parts and material properties http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/9228004
2011-01-12 14:51 <qi-bot> [commit] Wolfgang Spraul: added some sourcing notes for case parts http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/d61c132
2011-01-12 18:15 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: atrf-txrx: new option -C to control CLKM output http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/cb7afe1
2011-01-12 18:15 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: atrf-txrx.c (enter_test_mode_231): disable CLKM in AT86RF231 test mode http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/e90c596
2011-01-12 19:26 <kristianpaul> :/, i dont know why my computer just shutdown... it was installing some rtems depences last time i had contact it by ssh
2011-01-12 19:28 <kristianpaul> anyway.. lets see how it goes after this
2011-01-12 19:31 <wpwrak> roh: hmm, in the usb button box, where the angled sides meet the top. were the angled terminations of the side part also laser-cut ?
2011-01-12 19:51 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: do you know much about the milkymist one expansion header?
2011-01-12 19:52 <wolfspraul> I am looking at it right now, wondering how flexible it is...
2011-01-12 19:53 <kristianpaul> let me see
2011-01-12 19:53 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: "versatile" or "how far can it bend before it breaks" ? ;-)
2011-01-12 19:55 <kristianpaul> J21 is that expacion header?
2011-01-12 19:55 <kristianpaul> sheet 3
2011-01-12 19:56 <kristianpaul> a PCB layout i missing btw, i thin is not much hard export from altium..
2011-01-12 19:56 <kristianpaul> in pdf i meant*
2011-01-12 19:58 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: whos needs IO we have _wonderfull_ usb  :-D
2011-01-12 19:58 <wolfspraul> I think there are two. J3 and J21.
2011-01-12 19:58 <kristianpaul> where is J3?
2011-01-12 19:59 <wolfspraul> J21 has 16 pins, J3 has 18 pins.
2011-01-12 19:59 <wolfspraul> J3 is right next to it.
2011-01-12 19:59 <wolfspraul> I think they are both expansion headers, no?
2011-01-12 20:02 <wolfspraul> strange, the bom lists both j3 and j21 as 2*9 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Milkymist_One_RC2_BOM
2011-01-12 20:02 <wolfspraul> but J21 has 2*8, and J3 has 2*9
2011-01-12 20:02 <wolfspraul> I think...
2011-01-12 20:04 <kristianpaul> i need a rc3 pic, wait  amin
2011-01-12 20:04 <kristianpaul> rc2*
2011-01-12 20:06 <kristianpaul> both are 2*9
2011-01-12 20:07 <kristianpaul> may be some pins not routed
2011-01-12 20:07 <wolfspraul> oh you are right!
2011-01-12 20:07 <wolfspraul> it was changed on rc2
2011-01-12 20:07 <wolfspraul> ok so on rc2, we have 2 2*9 expansion headers
2011-01-12 20:08 <kristianpaul> to be fair from where you get your rc3 pdf sch?
2011-01-12 20:08 <wolfspraul> there is no rc3 yet
2011-01-12 20:09 <wolfspraul> the files are a bit messy, sorry :-)
2011-01-12 20:09 <wolfspraul> I just google
2011-01-12 20:09 <wolfspraul> he he
2011-01-12 20:09 <kristianpaul> lol
2011-01-12 20:09 <kristianpaul> s/rc3/rc2
2011-01-12 20:09 <wolfspraul> the only way to really this this up is all into kicad etc. but that's not my #1 priority right now
2011-01-12 20:09 <wolfspraul> to really clean this up
2011-01-12 20:10 <wolfspraul> rc2 schematics pdf: http://www.milkymist.org/mmone/rc2_schematics.pdf
2011-01-12 20:10 <wolfspraul> J21 is documented on page 3, still haven't found J3
2011-01-12 20:10 <wolfspraul> (and the pdf is not searchable :-))
2011-01-12 20:10 <kristianpaul> ha i catch you !
2011-01-12 20:10 <kristianpaul> i tought u already founded
2011-01-12 20:11 <kristianpaul> i still looking for J3 too
2011-01-12 20:11 <kristianpaul>  (and the pdf is not searchable) PAIN !!
2011-01-12 20:13 <kristianpaul> ok from m1 ucf i can see 12 IO
2011-01-12 20:13 <wolfspraul> ah j3 is for audio only
2011-01-12 20:14 <wolfspraul> page 1, I think j3 is hooked up to the audio codec
2011-01-12 20:14 <kristianpaul> for how long it will? :-)
2011-01-12 20:14 <wolfspraul> so only j21 is the fpga expansion header
2011-01-12 20:15 <kristianpaul> https://github.com/lekernel/milkymist/blob/master/boards/milkymist-one/synthesis/common.ucf (from line 298 )
2011-01-12 20:16 <kristianpaul> audio, hum, what i fell is missing a extension cable here..
2011-01-12 20:16 <kristianpaul> any way
2011-01-12 20:16 <kristianpaul> s/fell/feel
2011-01-12 20:25 <kristianpaul> for gps-sdr 13 pins are not so bad, not sure for a captiva cmos...
2011-01-12 20:28 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: yeah for image sensor it's not enough
2011-01-12 20:31 <kristianpaul> The MIC2550A
2011-01-12 20:31 <kristianpaul> is 2.0 USB compliant
2011-01-12 20:37 <kristianpaul> but nah, is too much to deal with i think
2011-01-12 20:39 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: correct
2011-01-12 20:39 <wolfspraul> Milkymist One will be fun
2011-01-12 20:39 <wolfspraul> there are like 1000 really nice, really important open TODOs
2011-01-12 20:39 <wolfspraul> the main thing in this project is to pick your battles wisely
2011-01-12 20:40 <wolfspraul> I am still mentally wandering around the project trying to understand all the various things that work or don't work, could work, should work, will never work, etc.
2011-01-12 20:40 <wolfspraul> and whether they are hard or easy to fix, depend on each other or not, and so on
2011-01-12 22:35 <roh> wpwrak: nope. the angled stuff was filed after lasering it in a way that the were 'just long enough'
2011-01-12 22:35 <roh> filed manually
2011-01-12 22:35 <roh> then glued
2011-01-12 22:35 <roh> also sandpaper was used