2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: added README and COPYING.GPLv2 http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/78006c5
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: Makefile cleanup and added OpenWRT target http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/9481934
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg/TODO: cleanup and added new task for consideration http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/07a4422
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: added copyright headers and changed name to emphasize speediness http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/3d1ef02
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: turn pkg->installed into pkg->flags, allowing for future expansion http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/a63823e
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: towards "struct id" without jrb reference - change iteration and lookup http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/7058115
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: towards "struct id" without jrb reference - change ID creation http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/44e4434
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: give ID2S macro a more "offical" status http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/dd0ee66
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: record Architecture: tag http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/f14c041
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: perform sanity checks after parsing a package entry http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/83c7164
2010-11-21 02:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: added regression test harness and a few tests http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2c953a5
2010-11-21 02:43 <kyak> viric: great! could you document it for non-nix users? i.e. kernel options, cmdline, pecularities of ubi creation and then qemu parameters?
2010-11-21 02:45 <wolfspraul> kyak: which backend are we using for NetSurf in OpenWrt?
2010-11-21 02:45 <wolfspraul> framebuffer? sdl?
2010-11-21 02:45 <kyak> sdl backend
2010-11-21 02:46 <wolfspraul> what are the pros and cons between the two? why did we choose sdl?
2010-11-21 02:46 <wolfspraul> (just curious)
2010-11-21 02:46 <kyak> its linuxfb is broken
2010-11-21 02:46 <kyak> netsurf's linuxfb
2010-11-21 02:47 <kyak> the guy from #netsurf said
2010-11-21 02:47 <kyak> < kyllikki> right now its been reduced to a stub untill i get round to  it
2010-11-21 02:48 <kyak> and reason is that
2010-11-21 02:48 <kyak> < kyllikki> the API usage changed with the invention of kms and i  never have figured out why netsurfs usage blows up
2010-11-21 02:52 <kyak> however, netsurf has gtk2 interface
2010-11-21 02:52 <kyak> but i think it will be slower than sdl (need to check of course)
2010-11-21 02:53 <wolfspraul> ok got it
2010-11-21 02:53 <wolfspraul> sdl seems like a reasonable choice then
2010-11-21 02:53 <kyak> B_Lizzard tried gtk interface in OE (with X, however). Very slow
2010-11-21 02:54 <wolfspraul> sure let's focus on sdl, and maybe linuxfb one day if they fix it
2010-11-21 02:55 <kyak> they fixed already some things "for us"
2010-11-21 02:55 <kyak> i don't know if they are willing to go on
2010-11-21 02:55 <kyak> currently sdl interface has limited support for keyboard
2010-11-21 02:56 <kyak> in fact, only arrow keys work :)
2010-11-21 02:56 <kyak> but it becomes more or less usable with keymouse
2010-11-21 03:18 <wolfspraul> on the Ben, I think of NetSurf for 2 use cases now: develop 'local' apps in html+css, maybe later combined with some 'server side' (=local) scripting, or JavaScript if NS adds it
2010-11-21 03:19 <wolfspraul> and (along the same lines) offline document viewer, for example for offline wiki content
2010-11-21 05:29 <viric> kyak: I'll try to document that, and send that to qi-hardware
2010-11-21 05:30 <kyak> viric: awesome!
2010-11-21 09:01 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: gmenu2x : disable log message http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/65934ce
2010-11-21 09:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: remove /usr/bin/ben-ash, since we setfont2 in /usr/bin/gmenu2x http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/c8f893a
2010-11-21 10:42 <kristianpaul> offline wikipedia in thtml is *huge* i dont see a way there
2010-11-21 10:42 <kristianpaul> is the same problem with thhe xml dumps
2010-11-21 10:42 <viric> kristianpaul: and that compressed file format... I can't remember the name
2010-11-21 10:44 <mstevens> offline wikipedia seems to fit nicely on a wikireader
2010-11-21 10:44 <viric> ZIM
2010-11-21 10:44 <kristianpaul> noo
2010-11-21 10:44 <kristianpaul> sorry
2010-11-21 10:44 <viric> no what?
2010-11-21 10:44 <kristianpaul> noo zim
2010-11-21 10:44 <kristianpaul> is like reivent the weel
2010-11-21 10:44 <viric> is zim bad?
2010-11-21 10:45 <viric> what was there before zim? :)
2010-11-21 10:45 <kristianpaul> i'm not sayin that
2010-11-21 10:45 <viric> I only know chm
2010-11-21 10:45 <kristianpaul> before seem in wikipedia we have xml compressed dumps
2010-11-21 10:45 <viric> compressed how?
2010-11-21 10:45 <viric> seekable?
2010-11-21 10:45 <kristianpaul> the only tink i dont like from zim is that is not easilly maintenable
2010-11-21 10:46 <kristianpaul> not seekables
2010-11-21 10:46 <kristianpaul> bziped
2010-11-21 10:46 <kristianpaul> not byt it self
2010-11-21 10:46 <viric> xml, compressed, not seekable...   it sounds pretty bad
2010-11-21 10:46 <viric> :)
2010-11-21 10:46 <kristianpaul> you can create the seek-index file
2010-11-21 10:46 <viric> even uncompressing a whole bzip2 block is heavy
2010-11-21 10:46 <kristianpaul> this process look bad for me http://www.openzim.org/Build_your_ZIM_file
2010-11-21 10:47 <viric> I think the format has to keep in mind the cpu cycles of the 'reading' device
2010-11-21 10:47 <viric> and a very specific format for that seems to me like the best approach
2010-11-21 10:48 <viric> ah, you mean that zim does not take the XML dump?
2010-11-21 10:48 <kristianpaul> i agree if is easy to maintain, did you see the graphs for builidn zim files?
2010-11-21 10:48 <viric> Yes
2010-11-21 10:48 <kristianpaul> is crazyness !
2010-11-21 10:48 <viric> well, you dislike the fetching from wikipedia?
2010-11-21 10:49 <viric> the rest looks fine to me
2010-11-21 10:49 <viric> someone could write another kind of 'fetch data from wikipedia'
2010-11-21 10:50 <kristianpaul> all the data is fetched from wikipedia, bt then you need t create other mediawiki serve plus a expotr plugin then compress again..
2010-11-21 10:50 <viric> I imagine they did this process in order to get ZIM workign sooner.
2010-11-21 10:50 <kristianpaul> i dontlilke that cycle
2010-11-21 10:51 <kristianpaul> https://launchpad.net/wikipediadumpreader
2010-11-21 10:51 <viric> But what is important for the reader device is having software + data that it can use to show things quickly and well, with little filesystem usage
2010-11-21 10:51 <viric> The way to generate the ZIM files is irrelevant for the reader
2010-11-21 10:51 <kristianpaul> sure
2010-11-21 10:51 <kristianpaul> i'm not talkign from the reader side ;-)
2010-11-21 10:52 <viric> ah :)
2010-11-21 10:52 <viric> zim looks hard to beat, on the reader side
2010-11-21 10:52 <kristianpaul> http://humaneinfo.com/
2010-11-21 10:52 <kristianpaul> viric: hard to beat? dont think so :)
2010-11-21 10:52 <viric> I remember this humane pc
2010-11-21 10:53 <kristianpaul> rafa: did some work around it
2010-11-21 10:53 <kristianpaul> and it works !
2010-11-21 10:53 <viric> ah he has one?
2010-11-21 10:53 <kristianpaul> one?
2010-11-21 10:53 <viric> one humane pc
2010-11-21 10:53 <kristianpaul> no no
2010-11-21 10:53 <kristianpaul> the little computer all we use here :)
2010-11-21 10:54 <kristianpaul> is in jliem beta4 i think
2010-11-21 10:54 <viric> he used the humane pc software in the nn?
2010-11-21 10:54 <kristianpaul> or sorft of
2010-11-21 10:54 <kristianpaul> rafa: can exaplain better what he did..
2010-11-21 10:54 <viric> ok
2010-11-21 10:54 <kristianpaul> when he wakeup or came back from trip
2010-11-21 10:56 <kristianpaul> viric: command line vesion http://www.jlime.com/wiki/documentation/user/nanonote/videos check last video
2010-11-21 10:57 <kristianpaul> http://www.youtube.com/user/jornada660#p/a/u/1/hPIZGN2sDds
2010-11-21 11:08 <viric> I'll check
2010-11-21 11:51 <jekhor> got ncmpc running on NanoNote :)
2010-11-21 12:20 <kyak> jekhor: nice! you could post the patch to mailing lists :)
2010-11-21 12:20 <jekhor> :)
2010-11-21 12:20 <jekhor> i know.
2010-11-21 13:01 <jekhor> kyak, posted.
2010-11-21 15:08 <kyak> viric: hey, are you there?
2010-11-21 15:08 <viric> sí
2010-11-21 15:08 <kyak> good :) i'm following your message in mailing lists
2010-11-21 15:08 <viric> brave :)
2010-11-21 15:09 <kyak> so far, trying to boot a bare kernel.. however, qemu is just doing nothing -\
2010-11-21 15:09 <viric> a malta kernel?
2010-11-21 15:09 <viric> nothing?
2010-11-21 15:09 <kyak> i mean, it definitely doing something, but no output
2010-11-21 15:09 <viric> ah
2010-11-21 15:09 <viric> try -nographic
2010-11-21 15:09 <kyak> no, i tried to build a nanonote_defconfig
2010-11-21 15:09 <viric> nanonote?
2010-11-21 15:09 <kyak> yep, tried -nographic, too
2010-11-21 15:09 <viric> qemu cannot emulate the nanonote
2010-11-21 15:09 <kyak> hm-hm
2010-11-21 15:10 <kyak> does it care?
2010-11-21 15:10 <viric> sure
2010-11-21 15:10 <viric> it's about the *board*
2010-11-21 15:10 <viric> at what IO address there is the serial port controller, ...
2010-11-21 15:10 <viric> at what other the PCI bus...
2010-11-21 15:10 <kyak> ohhh!
2010-11-21 15:10 <viric> every board is different
2010-11-21 15:10 <kyak> ok then
2010-11-21 15:10 <kyak> will do malta
2010-11-21 15:10 <viric> qemu emulates other boards
2010-11-21 15:10 <viric> I did not see a big reason not to use the default
2010-11-21 15:11 <viric> qemu -M ?
2010-11-21 15:11 <viric> qemu-system-mipsel -M ?   I mean
2010-11-21 15:12 <kyak> i understand now...
2010-11-21 15:12 <kyak> thnaks :)
2010-11-21 15:14 <kyak> ok, selected block2mtd, ubifs and ubi to be built-in kernel
2010-11-21 15:15 <kyak> everything else is default
2010-11-21 15:15 <kyak> let's see how it works
2010-11-21 15:16 <kyak> viric: what is called as "rootfs.img" in your e-mail, is actually the ubi image?
2010-11-21 15:16 <viric> yes
2010-11-21 15:16 <viric> resulting from ubinize
2010-11-21 15:17 <kyak> so i assume i already got it from openwrt.. only need to pad it with 0xff
2010-11-21 15:18 <viric> yes
2010-11-21 15:26 <kyak> viric: /dev/hda,524288
2010-11-21 15:26 <kyak> how you got 524288?
2010-11-21 15:27 <viric> 512*1024*1024
2010-11-21 15:28 <kyak> so, despite of the fact that your ubifs is only 50 Mb, block2mtd emulates a 512 Mb drive?
2010-11-21 15:28 <viric> no
2010-11-21 15:28 <viric> that is the PEB size
2010-11-21 15:28 <viric> how much you padded of 0xff?
2010-11-21 15:29 <kyak> the image is ~186 Mb
2010-11-21 15:29 <kyak> i padded up to 200
2010-11-21 15:29 <viric> it does not matter the size of the image
2010-11-21 15:30 <viric> matters the volume size told to ubinize
2010-11-21 15:30 <viric> (I think)
2010-11-21 15:30 <viric> you need to pad more than the volume size told to ubinize.
2010-11-21 15:30 <viric> let me look for openwrt...
2010-11-21 15:30 <kyak> ah ok
2010-11-21 15:31 <viric> ah it has no volume size
2010-11-21 15:31 <kyak> the volume size ot ubinize is 256 Mb
2010-11-21 15:31 <viric> really?
2010-11-21 15:31 <kyak> yea, the size of rootfs
2010-11-21 15:31 <kyak> or no?
2010-11-21 15:31 <viric> target/linux/xburst/image/ubinize.cfg does not say so
2010-11-21 15:31 <kyak> hm .
2010-11-21 15:32 <kyak> i guess it's dynamic then?
2010-11-21 15:32 <viric> yes yes
2010-11-21 15:32 <viric> it may work for 200
2010-11-21 15:32 <kyak> see, i got thies error
2010-11-21 15:32 <kyak> UBIFS error (pid 1): ubifs_get_sb: cannot open "ubi0:rootfs", error -19
2010-11-21 15:32 <kyak> VFS: Cannot open root device "ubi0:rootfs" or unknown-block(0,0)
2010-11-21 15:32 <viric> that's ubifs
2010-11-21 15:32 <viric> does ubi work for you?
2010-11-21 15:32 <kyak> what do you mean?
2010-11-21 15:32 <viric> (look above)
2010-11-21 15:32 <viric> above in the kernel log
2010-11-21 15:33 <kyak> UBI error: validate_ec_hdr: bad VID header offset 4096, expected 64
2010-11-21 15:33 <kyak> i guess no
2010-11-21 15:33 <viric> Ahh
2010-11-21 15:33 <viric> the openwrt build with -m 4096 instead of -m 1
2010-11-21 15:33 <kyak> i remember you got this error :)
2010-11-21 15:33 <kyak> or similar
2010-11-21 15:33 <viric> (the minimum subpage)
2010-11-21 15:33 <viric> block2mtd has a fixed minimum subpage of 1
2010-11-21 15:34 <viric> while the nanonote has a minimum subpage of 4096
2010-11-21 15:34 <viric> I don't know how to make the block2mtd have a minimum subpage of 4096, or how to tell ubi to use a minimum subpage of 4096
2010-11-21 15:34 <kyak> yeah right.. below 4096 is uboot and kernel i guess
2010-11-21 15:34 <viric> http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubi.html#L_subpage
2010-11-21 15:34 <viric> no no
2010-11-21 15:35 <viric> it's about being able of getting blocks of 4096 bytes
2010-11-21 15:35 <viric> (I think)
2010-11-21 15:36 <kyak> since i can make openwrt generate rootfs.tar.gz,  i think i will ubinize it by myself
2010-11-21 15:36 <kyak> with appropriate options
2010-11-21 15:36 <kyak> how do you think?
2010-11-21 15:36 <viric> you only need to change -m 4096 to -m 1   in mkfs.ubifs and ubinize
2010-11-21 15:36 <viric> (I think)
2010-11-21 15:36 <kyak> nah, this will break my regular build :)
2010-11-21 15:36 <kyak> (i think)
2010-11-21 15:37 <kyak> i suppose also that block2mtd  has some options to be able to support blocks of 4096 bytes?
2010-11-21 15:37 <viric> well, block2mtd supports subpages of 1 byte
2010-11-21 15:38 <viric> I don't know how to make it support only 4096byte subpages
2010-11-21 15:39 <viric> wait
2010-11-21 15:39 <kyak> can you share the script or config you used to ubinize?
2010-11-21 15:39 <kyak> waiting
2010-11-21 15:39 <kyak> :)
2010-11-21 15:39 <viric> kyak, try in the cmdline: ubi.mtd=0,4096  ?
2010-11-21 15:39 <viric> hm
2010-11-21 15:40 <kyak> UBI error: validate_ec_hdr: bad data offset 8192, expected 4160
2010-11-21 15:40 <viric> ah. bad.
2010-11-21 15:41 <viric> I wish all this were easier :)
2010-11-21 15:41 <viric> kyak: you need to pass -m 1 to mkfs.ubifs too
2010-11-21 15:41 <viric> not only to ubinie
2010-11-21 15:41 <viric> ubinize
2010-11-21 15:42 <viric> kyak: http://nixos.pastebin.ca/1998179
2010-11-21 15:44 <kyak> uhm
2010-11-21 15:44 <kyak> what's $deviceTable?
2010-11-21 15:44 <viric> ahh
2010-11-21 15:44 <viric> well, I don't know if openwrt uses it
2010-11-21 15:44 <kyak> and ensureDir?
2010-11-21 15:44 <viric> forget those around :)
2010-11-21 15:45 <viric> I just copied what I have.
2010-11-21 15:45 <kyak> ok :) thnaks
2010-11-21 15:45 <viric> nix related things
2010-11-21 15:45 <viric> The devicetable is there because I don't want to become root to prepare the image
2010-11-21 15:46 <kyak> i don't really understand how the files will get inside the image?
2010-11-21 15:46 <viric> what files?
2010-11-21 15:46 <viric> I have all the files in the subdirectory 'root'
2010-11-21 15:46 <viric> -r root points to it
2010-11-21 15:46 <kyak> ah good
2010-11-21 15:47 <viric> How would I reflash my nanonote with that ubifs?
2010-11-21 15:47 <viric> booting in that special mode, right?
2010-11-21 15:48 <kyak> yeo
2010-11-21 15:49 <kyak> yes
2010-11-21 15:49 <viric> M-power ?
2010-11-21 15:49 <kyak> u+power
2010-11-21 15:49 <kyak> and then using usbboot
2010-11-21 15:49 <viric> ah
2010-11-21 15:49 <kyak> m-power is to boot from sd card
2010-11-21 15:50 <viric> I'll try if my ubifs image works on the nn
2010-11-21 15:52 <viric> I think I have nothing of value there
2010-11-21 15:56 <viric> why usbboot wants to be run by root?
2010-11-21 15:57 <kyak> maybe it needs some low-level access to your usb port, dunno
2010-11-21 15:58 <viric> my user has access to the usb device. I think it simply uses libusb... it should not need root
2010-11-21 15:59 <viric> maybe I have the permissions wrogn
2010-11-21 15:59 <viric> hm no
2010-11-21 16:02 <viric> kyak: hummm the '-e' on nanonote and block2mtd also look like being different
2010-11-21 16:06 <kyak> viric: i think the best is to generate ubifs manually from staging_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.30.1/root-xburst
2010-11-21 16:06 <kyak> using your mkfs.ubifs and ubinize settings
2010-11-21 16:06 <viric> maybe
2010-11-21 16:06 <kyak> will try do it tommorrow.. time to get some sleep
2010-11-21 16:07 <kyak> viric: thanks for your help!
2010-11-21 16:07 <viric> what is your timezone?
2010-11-21 16:07 <kyak> GMT+3
2010-11-21 16:07 <viric> ah ok.
2010-11-21 16:07 <viric> good night!
2010-11-21 16:07 <kyak> :)
2010-11-21 16:22 <viric> argh. It looks like 'nerase 16 4080 0 0" erased the uboot too.
2010-11-21 16:22 <viric> I can't understand why.
2010-11-21 16:39 <wpwrak> viric: meanwhile, deep in the mind of your computer: "hmm, he made me erase u-boot in a pretty convoluted way. I can't understand why."
2010-11-21 16:40 <viric> convoluted? :)
2010-11-21 16:40 <viric> aren't 16 blocks the offset for the rootfs?
2010-11-21 16:40 <wpwrak> naw, i don't know what happened :)
2010-11-21 16:41 <viric> I imagine that for ubi, it's always the case that the flash has to be fully erased?
2010-11-21 16:43 <wpwrak> dunno. never touched UBI. way too complex for my taste.
2010-11-21 16:46 <viric> don't you use ubi?
2010-11-21 16:46 <viric> and, what has that to do with ubi? :)
2010-11-21 16:46 <viric> it's uboot that got erased :)
2010-11-21 16:49 <wpwrak> (use ubi) well yes, but i don't understand its internals much like i don't really understand the quantum physics going on in transistors, yet i use them ;-)
2010-11-21 16:49 <wpwrak> (what to do with ubi) well, you asked about it ;-)
2010-11-21 16:49 <viric> ah I already had forgot my question about ubi :D
2010-11-21 16:51 <wpwrak> your computer and you *are* similar ! you forget about the question, your computer forgot about u-boot. have you considered the possibility that you might be an AI running in a different virtual machine on the same hardware ? a hardware with memory problems. ;-)
2010-11-21 16:57 <viric> hehe
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg/qpkg.c: tighten detection of inconsistent use of Filename: http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/8922383
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: rearrange things in prereq.c to free the stack paradigm for other uses http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/d0a1a9e
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg/prereq.c (prereq): removed confused false error avoidance http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/5a0444f
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg/prereq.c (resolve): cleaned up the debugging output mechanism http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/9272f50
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: store dependencies and conflicts in file order http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/6c66fa6
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: change prerequisite resolution order to be fully depth-first http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/0229051
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: added detection of cyclic dependencies http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/0bc4b60
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg/prereq.c (print_debug, resolve): moved debug output to separate function http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/e1404bb
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: option -d to enable debugging at run time, and some cleanup http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/a0c0e85
2010-11-21 19:21 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: qpkg: moved comp_versions from prereq.c to id.c http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/dd8bb6e
2010-11-21 21:01 <qi-bot> [commit] Yauhen Kharuzhy: Add libmpdclient package http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5e68f89
2010-11-21 21:01 <qi-bot> [commit] Yauhen Kharuzhy: Fix ncmpc compilation http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/70138e9
2010-11-21 21:24 <kristianpaul> damn why all people uses the same Cypress MCU :/
2010-11-21 21:24 <kristianpaul> such honor copying usrp closed hw ideas..
2010-11-21 21:25 <wpwrak> honor or horror ?
2010-11-21 21:26 <kristianpaul> good question :)
2010-11-21 21:26 <kristianpaul> last !
2010-11-21 21:31 <wpwrak> thought so :)
2010-11-21 21:46 <kristianpaul> hmm A-GPS is linked with GSM base stations?.
2010-11-21 21:47 <kristianpaul> how google amps can enable Maps in no gps phones... is it using gsm atena and dsp stuff to process gps data ?..
2010-11-21 21:47 <kristianpaul> questions for future devel.
2010-11-21 21:48 <wpwrak> afaik, agps downloads additional data (by whatever means) to improve startup time
2010-11-21 21:49 <kristianpaul> ahh download
2010-11-21 21:49 <wpwrak> you can use wifi and/or gsm to fake gps, yes
2010-11-21 21:49 <kristianpaul> gprs
2010-11-21 21:49 <kristianpaul> oh
2010-11-21 21:49 <wpwrak> gprs, wifi, floppies, ... ;-)
2010-11-21 21:49 <kristianpaul> haha
2010-11-21 21:59 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: add msmtp-queue package. when it goto upstream, we will delete it http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/f9cc7d5
2010-11-21 22:32 <xiangfu> set the image default wallpaper to open.png http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/File:Wallpaper_Nanonote_open.png
2010-11-21 22:36 <FrankBlues> Nice wallpaper!
2010-11-21 22:43 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: set the default wallpaper to open.png http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/6773ad7
2010-11-21 22:44 <wolfspraul> it should say free, not open :-)