2010-10-31 04:32 hello, i got an error - no xburst device found.. how can sort this out? 2010-10-31 04:34 any help 2010-10-31 04:34 please 2010-10-31 08:00 [commit] kyak: 8 bit support in readline-aware programs http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/df5f767 2010-10-31 08:03 (finally sdcv is working in console as expected) 2010-10-31 09:19 xiangfu: there is an issue.. remember you added the shell script header to gmenu2x.sh? 2010-10-31 09:19 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/gmenu2x/source/commit/9986a1f08fe4eafe0b068ccf94602eb2825480d6/ 2010-10-31 09:20 this change never got to openwrt-packages git (the gmenu2x there is still older) 2010-10-31 09:20 therefore, the change of /etc/init.d/start (where gmenu2x is started with start-stop-daemon) is not working 2010-10-31 09:21 because /usr/bin/gmenu2x is not a valid shell script 2010-10-31 09:21 so actually i updated the gmenu2x revision in openwrt-packages 2010-10-31 09:21 -PKG_REV:=0775638dbcbc491d98df3c8932a933d1be2790d6 2010-10-31 09:21 +PKG_REV:=9986a1f08fe4eafe0b068ccf94602eb2825480d6 2010-10-31 09:22 but these leads to other major updates.. for example, gmenu2x input system had been rewritten 2010-10-31 09:22 kyak: ah I had a question, sorry maybe it was discussed before (need to check irclogs...) 2010-10-31 09:22 did you see this one guy on the list who said we should enable --nls to make utf8 work in the console 2010-10-31 09:23 therefore, we need to change input.conf in gmenu2x in openwrt-packages.. and maybe something else.. i'm afraid it could lead to mess :) 2010-10-31 09:23 what do you think about that? 2010-10-31 09:23 wolfspraul: actually, it is not necessary 2010-10-31 09:24 nls usually refers to localized program strings 2010-10-31 09:24 and utf-8 (or multibyte) is a feature supported by the program itself.. 2010-10-31 09:25 hmm, OK 2010-10-31 09:25 need to read again what exactly he wanted then 2010-10-31 09:25 and we actually have it supported CONFIG_BUSYBOX_CONFIG_FEATURE_ASSUME_UNICODE=y 2010-10-31 09:26 he proposed a patch which said improved the situation for him, not sure which app or use case it was 2010-10-31 09:26 therefore, utf-8 is already working in utf-8 aware programs 2010-10-31 09:26 (examples are busybox, vim, sdcv .. i don't know what else) 2010-10-31 09:27 with fbterm, the complete unicode is supported 2010-10-31 09:28 in console, only 255 chars is possible to display (usually) 2010-10-31 09:28 so one needs to add according glyphs to console fonts 2010-10-31 09:28 kyak: thanks for update gmenu2x. I also found the gmen2x input have update. we definitely need update the input.conf 2010-10-31 09:28 ben-cyrillic does that for cyrillic glyphs 2010-10-31 09:29 xiangfu: good you agree.. i'm testing this thing now.. 2010-10-31 09:30 are we including ben-cyrillic by default? 2010-10-31 09:30 as a "module" 2010-10-31 09:30 we should include more console fonts by default, cyrillic, chinese/korean/japanese, I could probably find a few more :-) 2010-10-31 09:30 so it should be easy to users to install it with opkg 2010-10-31 09:31 I think we should add it to the image 2010-10-31 09:31 wolfspraul: it is very hard 2010-10-31 09:31 i have to edit the font file for setfont2 manually 2010-10-31 09:31 installing is a very big burden for many people, especially as our installer is not very user friendly yet 2010-10-31 09:31 also i think 255 symbols is not enough for chinese support 2010-10-31 09:31 hmm, OK 2010-10-31 09:32 Chinese people should use fbterm 2010-10-31 09:32 russian people may live without fbterm :) 2010-10-31 09:32 wolfspraul: long ago you asked me some question, and since then we haven't seen each other on at the same time... so whenever this conversation is done feel free to bring whatever that was up :) 2010-10-31 09:32 can we make fbterm the default? 2010-10-31 09:33 what is the difference between fbterm and jfbterm? 2010-10-31 09:33 hah 2010-10-31 09:33 if we make fbterm as default, we would loose nice fonts of setfont2 2010-10-31 09:33 what was the question? no idea... 2010-10-31 09:33 I'm always just worried that you are alive and happy :-) 2010-10-31 09:33 I may be in the New York area again soon, maybe I should come back to Cambridge for a drink 2010-10-31 09:33 will definitely take/try public transport this time 2010-10-31 09:34 (setfont2 is not working in fbterm) 2010-10-31 09:34 hmm, work everywhere I guess. How hard is it to make setfont2 work with fbterm? 2010-10-31 09:34 and basically fbterm and jfbterm are doing the same job.. i don't know what is the spectacular difference between them 2010-10-31 09:34 any opinion on jfbterm (j = japanese) 2010-10-31 09:35 ? 2010-10-31 09:35 yes 2010-10-31 09:35 j = japanese 2010-10-31 09:35 they both support unicode, both consume the same memory.. 2010-10-31 09:35 fbterm seems to be in developemnt though 2010-10-31 09:36 maybe jfbterm just includes by default some japanese fonts or keybindings 2010-10-31 09:36 setfont2 is using custom fonts, that can compensate for Bens specific LCD.. each symbol has to be created manually (in png file) 2010-10-31 09:37 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/setfont2/source/tree/master/fonts/pre-6x10-font.png 2010-10-31 09:37 well maybe we can make setfont2 work with fbterm? and also configure fbterm in such a way that a jfbterm use wouldn't miss a feature? 2010-10-31 09:37 this is the default font, supporting ascii only 2010-10-31 09:37 s/jfbterm use/jfterm user/ 2010-10-31 09:37 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/tree/master/ben-cyrillic/files/pre-6x10-font_rus.png 2010-10-31 09:37 this is modified font file for ben with cyrillic support 2010-10-31 09:38 fbterm is using ttf fonts.. 2010-10-31 09:38 this is completely different form how setfont2 works 2010-10-31 09:39 but perhpas we can ask Neil 2010-10-31 09:39 he, who created setfont2 2010-10-31 09:40 goes to look at logs re: wolfspraul ... 2010-10-31 09:41 another issue is input.. while cyrillic input works, it is pretty hard to type.. though i can type blind in cyrillic, Ben's keyboard is confusing 2010-10-31 09:42 and there are 33 letters in russian alphabet, not all of them can be assigned to 26 english letters 2010-10-31 09:46 wolfspraul: oh I guess we did catch up, I just owe you a microblog... this sound okay? 2010-10-31 09:46 News of !qihardware the most !copyleft !freesoftware friendly hardware - RSS http://en.qi-hardware.com/feed/rss20.xml - !freedomincluded to sell !nanonote soon... 2010-10-31 09:47 ahh 2010-10-31 09:47 it was that 2010-10-31 09:47 yes please 2010-10-31 09:47 I will push out the 11/1 community news tomorrow 2010-10-31 09:47 so the timing is excellent 2010-10-31 09:47 or maybe you wait until tomorrow, then if someone looks at the feed first they see the latest news, then maybe they subscribe... 2010-10-31 09:47 right now the latest news is just an editorial, and before that is a bit old... 2010-10-31 09:48 wolfspraul: sure, just ping me or give me a New_York time to do the post tomorrow. 2010-10-31 09:50 Monday morning is fine, whenever you get up :-) 2010-10-31 09:50 wolfspraul: k 2010-10-31 09:50 BTW to get under 140 did ur1, so 2010-10-31 09:50 News of !qihardware !copyleft !freesoftware friendly hardware - RSS feed http://ur1.ca/28ak8 - !freedomincluded !nanonote + !librewrt soon. 2010-10-31 09:51 If you think ur1 / url shortening is bad I can try to trim other things. 2010-10-31 09:55 hmm 2010-10-31 09:55 I have an idea... 2010-10-31 09:57 [commit] kyak: gmenu2x: catch up with the latest git version, input.conf has changed. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/44b60e7 2010-10-31 09:58 xiangfu: seems ok now 2010-10-31 10:00 kyak: thanks. 2010-10-31 10:00 xiangfu: np! 2010-10-31 10:07 djbclark: we have a shortener for example for the commitlog urls, so I just setup this one http://qi-hw.com/f/rss 2010-10-31 10:08 wolfspra1l: ah cool I'm sure I can make that one fit... sec... although ping does its own annoyinng thing if URL is too large... which is probably a good tip-off that I should start using something else... I remember someone mentioning a decently nice gnome app... 2010-10-31 10:10 News of !qihardware !copyleft !freesoftware friendly hardware -Â Â RSS http://qi-hw.com/f/rss - !freedomincluded !nanonote + !librewrt soon :) 2010-10-31 10:10 and going to look for more freedomy ping.fm replacement now :) 2010-10-31 10:11 Ah Gwibber 2010-10-31 10:14 Erg doesn't do linkedin... 2010-10-31 10:15 man, I just arrived in Shenzhen, the firewall has some pecularities here 2010-10-31 10:15 first my openvpn traffic is so throttled that I rather go naked through the censors (i.e. unencrypted) 2010-10-31 10:15 at least it's faster 2010-10-31 10:15 now I cannot even use flickr!, need to turn openvpn back on 2010-10-31 10:16 we need to crank up and make all this a lot more user friendly 2010-10-31 10:16 wolfspra1l: You may find http://en.flossmanuals.net/CircumventionTools useful :) 2010-10-31 10:16 I want a 'magic' network layer that will just try whatever works, measure speeds, use anything from unencrypted to steganography to vpn to whatnot, and flip between them for every packet as needed! 2010-10-31 10:16 get my data through the pipe! :-) 2010-10-31 10:16 even dns tunneling if it has to be, I don't care 2010-10-31 10:16 djbclark: yeah but I need China quality 2010-10-31 10:17 wolfspra1l: I assume you are aware that is a thing 2010-10-31 10:17 I need a layer that will just try ANYTHING 2010-10-31 10:17 without asking, jsut try try try, get the data through 2010-10-31 10:17 wolfspra1l: Zealous CircumventionBot? ;-) 2010-10-31 10:17 for China the user interface of the current tools is just way too innocent 2010-10-31 10:17 I want something that will just go bezerk to get data from a to b 2010-10-31 10:18 wolfspra1l: There are some tools that suck less. I'll ask a friend who works on things like that when I see him on XMPP next... 2010-10-31 10:18 that's what the other side does as well, in China at least, so have to match it :-) 2010-10-31 10:18 I just want a slider where I basically tell the computer at what 'danger level' I am currently communicating 2010-10-31 10:19 if I set the slider to 'high', the magic layer will not go below a certain encryption level 2010-10-31 10:19 if I set it to low, it will throw all my data into the data mining and archival forever machine, what the heck :-) 2010-10-31 10:19 he, anyway 2010-10-31 10:19 :-) 2010-10-31 10:20 I tought Gnome network manager was able to do it so ;-) 2010-10-31 10:22 wolfspra1l: you should try a n2n tunnel some day, at least is faster that openvpn (troughtput) 2010-10-31 11:01 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [keymouse] new package http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/9f1726e 2010-10-31 11:04 hi i just flashed my nano using the script .. i also copied nupdf into /usr/bin .. i created the data folder in home folder and added one simple pdf file.. while i tried to open the file, screen goes blank and stays like that.. i had reboot at the end.. any suggestion why i'm facing that problem? 2010-10-31 11:11 sujan: it's probably because uClibc 0.9.32 problem. 2010-10-31 11:12 sujan: you can try old images. which is uClibc 0.9.30. test nupdf again. 2010-10-31 11:14 ok thanks 2010-10-31 11:16 can i install that using opkg? 2010-10-31 11:28 sujan: no. you cann't. we must reflash the whole rootfs system. (root.ubi) 2010-10-31 11:29 sujan: try old one: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/2010-06-15/ :) 2010-10-31 12:23 hates power failures and fsck. power down for ~1 h, then 1.5 h of wrestling with super-nanny fsck and patronizing ubuntu to get my system back :-( 2010-10-31 12:37 :-/ 2010-10-31 12:41 kristianpaul:Â Â hi!! 2010-10-31 12:41 heberth: hola 2010-10-31 12:41 que mas como va todo por aca? 2010-10-31 12:41 bien 2010-10-31 12:42 comenteme como van los proyectos .. 2010-10-31 12:43 eso es una charla larga ;-) 2010-10-31 12:43 pero ! 2010-10-31 12:44 heberth: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/News 2010-10-31 12:45 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Main_Page <-- Some pictures of our work, read News for more... 2010-10-31 12:53 damn i forgot the 1.8V jtag 2010-10-31 12:53 arg. 2010-10-31 12:56 why i guessed it was 3.3V.. 2010-10-31 12:57 VJTAG(2) JTAG input voltage limits 0.5 to 4.0 V 2010-10-31 12:57 so.. 2010-10-31 13:04 hmm the ben have 1.8V TP somwhere.. 2010-10-31 13:04 let fidn it ! 2010-10-31 13:18 well soemby and ##fpga said is okay with 3V3 2010-10-31 13:18 so lets try 2010-10-31 13:25 hi, i tried to use reflash_ben, but got some weird results, and googling the error doesn't give me much 2010-10-31 13:26 http://pastebin.com/7tDUiNaU 2010-10-31 13:26 (the downloads are shortend) 2010-10-31 13:26 now when i try to boot my device, it does nothing, usb booting won't either work 2010-10-31 13:26 [commit] Erwin Lopez: Added .bit with hbridge pins and with testing pins http://qi-hw.com/p/sie-ceimtun/551a96e 2010-10-31 13:27 i tried both power+u, and shortcut the usb boot-pin under the battery while powering on 2010-10-31 13:27 now when i have the battery in/usb plugged in, the device makes a clicking noice 2010-10-31 13:28 btw, just so that i undertood the shortcuting of the usb boot-pin correctly, i shortcut the two pins in that area right? not usb boot to gnd? 2010-10-31 13:30 does anyone know what could have happend/gone wrong? is the mtd0 (NAND boot partition) "zerod out" so it won't boot? 2010-10-31 13:57 kd35a: ( usb boot to gnd) no way 2010-10-31 13:57 kd35a: do you have last xbusrt tools inst? 2010-10-31 13:57 also reflash script? 2010-10-31 13:58 how many times did you tried to reflash the nanonote? 2010-10-31 13:59 kristianpaul: i just downloaded xburst-tools_0.0+201007-1_i386.deb, so from what i know it's the latest 2010-10-31 13:59 ok 2010-10-31 13:59 yeah it seems 2010-10-31 13:59 what abotu the second question? 2010-10-31 13:59 kristianpaul: reflash-script also just downloaded, just tried once 2010-10-31 14:00 just tried once --> answer to third question 2010-10-31 14:00 try again 2010-10-31 14:00 please 2010-10-31 14:00 but before 2010-10-31 14:00 are you using the usb cable that came on Ben box? 2010-10-31 14:00 are you suign a usb HUB? 2010-10-31 14:00 from the script "__VERSION__="2.1.1"" 2010-10-31 14:01 yeah is last 2010-10-31 14:01 kristianpaul: nope, i'm using another usb-cable, and i do not use an usb-hub 2010-10-31 14:02 is first time you tried to reflash? 2010-10-31 14:02 the problem is that when push the power button, power+u, shortcut usb boot+power - the device does nothing, and i can't find it with lsusb 2010-10-31 14:02 kristianpaul: yes, first time 2010-10-31 14:02 let see 2010-10-31 14:03 you seemed have no uboot 2010-10-31 14:03 thats why nothing happen after poweron 2010-10-31 14:03 or do you get some messsages and no boot? 2010-10-31 14:04 otherwise you'll have to do usb boot fitting the two pins under the battery 2010-10-31 14:04 it should who soemthing in lsusb 2010-10-31 14:04 jsut try again 2010-10-31 14:04 when i do dpkg -L xburst-tools | grep bin/, i get the same answer as what's told on the wiki 2010-10-31 14:04 ok so thats OK, let focus on usb boot 2010-10-31 14:05 do you have the rubber thing that came on a small plastic bag in your Ben box? 2010-10-31 14:06 nope, i just got the device (second hand from a friend, the box is coming later) 2010-10-31 14:06 carbon rubber* 2010-10-31 14:06 i tried with a key 2010-10-31 14:06 oh well 2010-10-31 14:06 ouch 2010-10-31 14:06 you'll get some time getting it to boot 2010-10-31 14:06 just try again 2010-10-31 14:07 try fir usb boot pins before plug usb cable 2010-10-31 14:07 also tried with those rubber things on old-school keyboards 2010-10-31 14:07 ok, shall try again 2010-10-31 14:07 yeah those shold work 2010-10-31 14:07 should* 2010-10-31 14:09 one more item: it takes some time for the ben to discharge. remove battery, disconnect usb, wait 30 seconds (!), short the usb boot pins (and keep them shorted), connect usb, wait a couple of seconds, then release the usb boot pins. 2010-10-31 14:09 hey that go for the wiki ! 2010-10-31 14:09 writing 2010-10-31 14:12 wpwrak: 30 seconds, long time i think 2010-10-31 14:12 but guess same as in laptops 2010-10-31 14:12 szie dind matter seems 2010-10-31 14:12 dint* 2010-10-31 14:14 the device still doesn't show up with lsusb :( 2010-10-31 14:14 kristianpaul: yeah, 30 s is fairly long. you can probably get away with less. but ... the minimum, or rather, the delays that i found weren't sufficient, are quite large. 2010-10-31 14:15 kd35a: you relly need a trusty tool to fit the pins 2010-10-31 14:15 as the rubber that came within the box 2010-10-31 14:15 kd35a: sometimes, it takes a few tries. it virtually always works, but sometimes it's hard to make a good contact. 2010-10-31 14:15 indeed 2010-10-31 14:16 dont giveÂ Â up ! 2010-10-31 14:16 wpwrak: kristianpaul ok, shall try some more times 2010-10-31 14:16 kd35a: also, make sure you don't break the contact on the usb boot pins until a few seconds after plugging in USB. 2010-10-31 14:16 i read something about this device beeing "unbrickable", is that realy true? sounds too good to be true for me... 2010-10-31 14:17 wpwrak: you went here beforeÂ Â http://www.sase.com.ar/? 2010-10-31 14:17 kd35a: (note that you don't need the power button in all this) 2010-10-31 14:17 kd35a: (unbrickable ) sure it is in most cases 2010-10-31 14:18 your looks like a usual one, just in trying to fit the thing right way 2010-10-31 14:18 kd35a: (unbrickable) i think it's true. short of electrocuting or hacking it in two, there's little you can do to kill it, it seems :) 2010-10-31 14:18 :-) 2010-10-31 14:18 kristianpaul: (sase) no, first time i hear of it 2010-10-31 14:20 I DID IT! :D 2010-10-31 14:20 it's alive :D 2010-10-31 14:20 good 2010-10-31 14:21 and now i should do something like this? http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Updating_Ben_with_usbboot 2010-10-31 14:21 just run reflash script 2010-10-31 14:21 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Reflash_ben.sh 2010-10-31 14:22 same error again 2010-10-31 14:22 ./reflash_ben.sh -b maybe? 2010-10-31 14:24 kristianpaul: wow, 7 months between paper submission and the conference. 2010-10-31 14:24 kd35a: (alive) congratulations ! :) 2010-10-31 14:26 nice, ow i've got a bootloader at least... 2010-10-31 14:27 what happen next?.. 2010-10-31 14:27 it sound like you may need to erase some temp files and try flash again 2010-10-31 14:27 i but b="TRUE", others to FALSE 2010-10-31 14:27 s/but/put/ 2010-10-31 14:28 oh i never tried that -b 2010-10-31 14:28 ok, got the same error as before "error while flashing kernel: 2010-10-31 14:28 Error - can't read bulk data from Ingenic device:-110" 2010-10-31 14:29 kristianpaul: -b didn't work, just read it on the wiki, so tried to change the variabels 2010-10-31 14:29 what are the tmp-files i need erase? 2010-10-31 14:29 kristianpaul: 2010-10-31 14:29 are in /root/.ben 2010-10-31 14:29 i think 2010-10-31 14:30 /root/.qi 2010-10-31 14:31 kristianpaul: same error again while flashing kernel 2010-10-31 14:32 paste please 2010-10-31 14:32 just for confirm := 2010-10-31 14:32 :) 2010-10-31 14:32 flashing kernel... 2010-10-31 14:32 === 2010-10-31 14:32 fatal error occured - ABORTED 2010-10-31 14:32 === 2010-10-31 14:32 error while flashing kernel: 2010-10-31 14:32 Error - can't read bulk data from Ingenic device:-110 2010-10-31 14:33 hm 2010-10-31 14:33 try on console 2010-10-31 14:33 run sudo usbboot 2010-10-31 14:33 then type boot 2010-10-31 14:33 done 2010-10-31 14:34 well you should flash your nano by hand then 2010-10-31 14:34 the required files are in /root/.qi 2010-10-31 14:34 as stated in the wiki i linked earlier? 2010-10-31 14:34 yup 2010-10-31 14:34 i wonder what's wrong with your reflascript 2010-10-31 14:37 wpwrak: yeah 7Â Â moths long time.. 2010-10-31 14:37 months* 2010-10-31 14:40 ok, kernel flashed, rootfs on it's way in 2010-10-31 14:41 almost done :) 2010-10-31 14:41 thank's kristianpaul and wpwrak! realy appreciate your help :) 2010-10-31 15:15 [commit] Erwin Lopez: Pins corrected again http://qi-hw.com/p/sie-ceimtun/0345656 2010-10-31 16:03 ha 2010-10-31 16:03 why no body tell me that pico-gate exists.. 2010-10-31 16:21 kristianpaul: as in "*1G*" logic ? 2010-10-31 16:39 wpwrak: 1G? 2010-10-31 16:41 one gate? 2010-10-31 16:41 74AUP1G125 and such 2010-10-31 16:41 ahap 2010-10-31 16:41 yup 2010-10-31 16:41 or do you mean another kind of "pico-gate" ? 2010-10-31 16:42 no that one 2010-10-31 16:42 yes 1 gate 2010-10-31 16:47 that stuff's been around for a while ;-) 2010-10-31 16:48 heh yes i have a 74245 for my jtag programmer 2010-10-31 16:48 i jsut ignored that it was more.. 2010-10-31 16:49 What can I buy cheap to have a TTL serial line (tx/rx) in Linux, connecting one usb device? 2010-10-31 16:49 Better if I have to solder little :) 2010-10-31 16:49 viric: you mean linux in general ? and where is usb ? 2010-10-31 16:50 I think I want something like those ftdi chips 2010-10-31 16:50 I have a computer only with usb connectors 2010-10-31 16:50 ouch 2010-10-31 16:50 and a device with a ttl serial line like the nanonote 2010-10-31 16:50 I'd love to do some bitbanging.. 2010-10-31 16:50 (or is it 3.3v?) 2010-10-31 16:51 viric: it's only 3.3 V on the ben 2010-10-31 16:51 bartbes: what's stopping you ? :) 2010-10-31 16:51 I don't have an ftdi cable 2010-10-31 16:51 wpwrak: how do you access with a PC that serial port? 2010-10-31 16:53 viric: hmm, i use idbg :) 2010-10-31 16:53 bah, you cheat :) 2010-10-31 16:53 bartbes: the ben can do some nice bitbanging ... in fact, the ft232 kinda suck at this 2010-10-31 16:54 what is 'bitbanging'? 2010-10-31 16:54 bartbes: the ft2232 works, but i don't trust the ft232 anymore. 2010-10-31 16:54 so how would I do that? 2010-10-31 16:56 bartbes: make a board that goes into the micro-sd slot and connect whatever you fancy to it. 2010-10-31 16:56 and how would I code that (not that I can make a board at all, but hypothetically) 2010-10-31 16:56 viric: control of i/o pins by setting them directly to 0 and 1 under software control. 2010-10-31 16:56 bartbes: see ben-blinkenlights :) 2010-10-31 16:56 aah. 2010-10-31 16:57 bartbes: or, for something a little more complex, f32xbase/c2ben/ 2010-10-31 17:04 wpwrak: c2ben is just pcb/sch stuff from what i can see and make.. 2010-10-31 17:05 kristianpaul: yup. connects to a c8051f326 or c8051f320 microcontroller. it's for in-circuit programming. 2010-10-31 17:05 is that for prorgamin your MCU? 2010-10-31 17:05 ahh ok 2010-10-31 17:05 :-) 2010-10-31 17:05 here's what the thing looks like: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/f32x/c2ben-run1.jpg 2010-10-31 17:06 beutifull :) 2010-10-31 17:06 (i've already mentioned it here. maybe you've seen it already.) 2010-10-31 17:06 yes i remenber 2010-10-31 17:07 i like mostly how look the PCb in the picture 2010-10-31 17:07 what's especially nice about it is that i finally got the uSD board geometry right. in all the things i did before, it was a little off. 2010-10-31 17:08 i should have scraped off the copper at the edge. or, better, the toner that left it there. i could just not print the edge, but it helps a lot when positioning the paper. 2010-10-31 17:15 hmm, qucs doesn't want to simulate crosstalk in a ribbon cable :-( 2010-10-31 17:37 . 2010-10-31 17:37 Could not open parallel port (null) :-/ 2010-10-31 17:39 huh ? 2010-10-31 17:41 I'm running xc3sprog trying to program the cpld 2010-10-31 17:41 but so far the jtag cable is not detected.. 2010-10-31 17:51 hmm, simulation says that crosstalk should be troublesome on a ribbon cable. even if only ~20 cm. glad the ones i made for f32xbase are much shorter :) 2010-10-31 18:21 hi again :p now i'm trying to get WiFi to work with the SPECTEC SDW-823 2010-10-31 18:21 i moved the .rom and .cfg file to /lib/firmware as stated in the wiki (http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ben_NanoNote_Wi-Fi#Ben_Nanonote_Wi-Fi_howto) 2010-10-31 18:22 but when putting in the wifi-card in the microSD-slot, i get this http://pastebin.com/vQ3hA3dk 2010-10-31 18:22 a new output every 0.5s, you can see it's repeating from the dmesg 2010-10-31 18:23 the last few lines are from removing the wifi-card 2010-10-31 18:24 i downloaded the latest .config you use when building openwrt-xburst, and in that one kmod-ks7010 is marked for "built-in" 2010-10-31 18:24 so i guess i don't need to recompile the kernel, but something won't work, and google gives me nothing, ideas?? 2010-10-31 18:29 makes sandwich, brb 2010-10-31 19:43 interesting site: http://machinedesign.com/?p=1 2010-10-31 19:43 hard to search, but they do seem to have some good articles. e.g., about wires. http://machinedesign.com/article/wiring-1115 2010-10-31 19:52 kristianpaul: something similar to your machine. but seems to be able to handle lots of different materials: http://machinedesign.com/article/fab-it-now-0522 2010-10-31 19:53 oh yes is the fab@home 2010-10-31 19:53 from MIT Media Lab guys 2010-10-31 19:57 kristianpaul: this one is from cornell 2010-10-31 20:27 grr. Gerber is pure anarchy :-( some of the codes kicad uses seem to be completely undocumented. they're easy enough to figure out, but one has to wonder ... 2010-10-31 20:29 well, doesn 2010-10-31 20:30 t actually seem to be real gerber. just a similar-looking fake. it also has real gerber, but then loses the ability to pick apertures. grmbl. 2010-10-31 20:37 ahh i was confused then 2010-10-31 20:38 i tought was from then but in fact is the fab@home 2010-10-31 20:39 wpwrak: (gerber) seems to be same problem with custom gcodes and mcodes 2010-10-31 20:39 yeah, i guess everyone feels a need to make up their own :) 2010-10-31 20:40 i have tow 3d printing machines, and i dont know why there is no starnd 2010-10-31 20:40 indeed 2010-10-31 20:40 s/tow/two 2010-10-31 20:40 i dont know if is same with CNC machines 2010-10-31 20:41 wow, even two machines ! i know of the cupcake. what's the other one ? 2010-10-31 20:42 with cnc it's probably similar. mine doesn't even speak g-code but RML-1, some bastardized HPGL 2010-10-31 20:43 wpwrak: cupcake and reprap 2010-10-31 20:43 reprap is son of cupcake :p 2010-10-31 20:43 i could resist build one ;-) 2010-10-31 20:44 we need a kicad developer evuanlly join this channel 2010-10-31 20:44 how does reprap compare with cupcake ? 2010-10-31 20:45 http://kristianpaul.org/gallery/reprap/ 2010-10-31 20:45 cupcake printed reprap plastic parts 2010-10-31 20:45 (kicad developer) yeah, would be useful to have someone who'd take care of all the pesky little details we need :) 2010-10-31 20:45 also cupcake electornic is useable in reprap 2010-10-31 20:46 well reprap works but i really need tune sofware a bit more to achieve better resolution, but that will be next year i hope so.. 2010-10-31 20:47 damn i hate xilinx now more than yday ;-) 2010-10-31 20:47 (pics) nice ! but how do the two compare - accuracy, speed, work area ? 2010-10-31 20:47 enjoying the proprietary tools ? :) 2010-10-31 20:47 work area is better in reprap also speed (but you loose accuracy) 2010-10-31 20:47 accuracy can better is a sofware thing 2010-10-31 20:48 is not same sofware made from academics than in the wild of a comunity 2010-10-31 20:48 (propietary) trying to avoid it, and when use it, is just cr4p.. 2010-10-31 20:49 i think i'll save my CPLD if i find out how make this xilinx impact to work. 2010-10-31 20:49 at least SIE and my avnet fpga kit dont have thta issue :) 2010-10-31 20:49 rafa: there?? 2010-10-31 20:49 rafa: i ned your help with SIE and jlime ! 2010-10-31 20:50 need* 2010-10-31 20:51 argg "WARNING:iMPACT -Â Â Module windrvr6 is not loaded. Please reinstall the cable drivers. See Answer Record 22648." 2010-10-31 20:51 :-/ 2010-10-31 20:51 and YES even in linux the module is called windrv.. 2010-10-31 20:54 heh no more message ! 2010-10-31 20:54 and one point for the use of non privative drives 2010-10-31 20:54 drives* 2010-10-31 20:54 drivers* 2010-10-31 20:59 id 0000... 2010-10-31 20:59 well at least i said detected something unknow now 2010-10-31 21:00