2010-10-27 00:00 FINALLY I got it - the power supply was faulty, and was destroying one disk after another! 2010-10-27 00:00 alas, i'm still getting errors. so it seems to be something else. i'm not even entirely sure it's hardware. i'm getting an error about every 30 seconds. 2010-10-27 00:00 it took me a week and several thousand USD in destroyed disk drives until I had it narrowed down to that 20 USD power supply 2010-10-27 00:01 could be my stupidity/slowness, or just totally thrown off by such a 'out of sight' component failing in a nasty way 2010-10-27 00:01 anyway, fun with computers... 2010-10-27 00:01 wpwrak you are faster.. I just read your sms :) 2010-10-27 00:01 hey I have really good news, a 'ping of life' for the Linux kernel support on Milkymist and Milkymist One - http://lists.milkymist.org/pipermail/devel-milkymist.org/2010-October/000979.html 2010-10-27 00:01 (power supply destroying disks) that's vicious ! :) 2010-10-27 00:02 Takeshi is definitely maintaining this regularly, unfortunately his English is not very good so he cannot communicate his big picture thinking/direction/goals that well 2010-10-27 00:03 wolfspraul: nice and ugly RAID story.. .. raid just delay the death 2010-10-27 00:03 but he is regularly up-levelling (2.6.36+ booting on Milkymist One now), and confirmed to me that he is committed to this for the long run. So it sounds good, and the log he posts there is great to see... 2010-10-27 00:03 (mm1 kernel) great !!! 2010-10-27 00:03 rafa: RAID made it very expensive! 2010-10-27 00:04 that was the most expensive power supply in my life 2010-10-27 00:04 yeah.. I can imagine :( 2010-10-27 00:04 my lesson - if you operate a large disk array, make sure power is stable and power supply problems are out of the question. some controllers/disks are not very robust when there are subtle power problems. 2010-10-27 00:15 grmbl. the problems continue :-( ls ~ -> Input/output error 2010-10-27 00:18 let's see if it's some weird software problem i caught with a recent mega-update, and switching to the latest ubuntu kernel helps ... 2010-10-27 06:03 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [uboot-xburst] cleanup the lcm init http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/3b8d551 2010-10-27 06:23 how to put aplication in startup i.e my application shall be launched soon afetr the booting operation gets completed 2010-10-27 06:24 xiangfu hwo can I launch my app on startup 2010-10-27 06:48 My laptop is not charging, can someone help me? 2010-10-27 06:50 ahhfhaidhfi, you mean your nanonote? 2010-10-27 06:50 nanonote? 2010-10-27 06:50 this is qi-hardware channel after all 2010-10-27 06:51 oh 2010-10-27 06:51 sry then 2010-10-27 06:51 no prob, maybe we can help anyway :D 2010-10-27 06:52 so.. help me :D 2010-10-27 06:52 what sort of a laptop? What operating system? Does the battery any problems with the pins connecting to the slot? 2010-10-27 06:52 *have any problems 2010-10-27 06:53 win 7 2010-10-27 06:53 i dont know what laptop, its a custom made i think 2010-10-27 06:53 and no, it doesnt have connection problems 2010-10-27 06:54 when you plug the charger, does the system start up, just the battery never charges? 2010-10-27 06:54 or simply nothing happens? 2010-10-27 06:54 no the system won' 2010-10-27 06:54 t start up 2010-10-27 06:54 even when its on AC 2010-10-27 06:54 not even bios, nothing, right? No leds blinking, etc? 2010-10-27 06:54 there is a orange light blinking 2010-10-27 06:54 the battery light 2010-10-27 06:55 what does the orange light usually indicatong? 2010-10-27 06:55 *indicating 2010-10-27 06:55 low battery? 2010-10-27 06:55 also, the light on the AC adapter brick is blinking 2010-10-27 06:55 does it blink only if you plug the AC, or every time you try to turn it on? 2010-10-27 06:56 only if i plug the AC 2010-10-27 06:56 ok, that would mean that it tries to charge the battery 2010-10-27 06:56 I cant even turn it on cuz the battery is empty i think 2010-10-27 06:56 and that the hardware is not dead 2010-10-27 06:56 you should be able to turn it on if the AC is plugged even if the battery is missing 2010-10-27 06:57 i know.. but it doesnt 2010-10-27 06:57 did you drop it or damaged in any other way so let's say ram chips could fall out of the slots? 2010-10-27 06:57 nope 2010-10-27 06:58 do you have a warranty on it? Or you're able to open it up and look inside? 2010-10-27 06:58 the warranty is over 2010-10-27 06:58 so i can open it 2010-10-27 06:58 hmm.. does it have any reset holes? 2010-10-27 06:59 what's that? 2010-10-27 06:59 maybe the power button is broken 2010-10-27 06:59 no 2010-10-27 06:59 i managed to turn it on for a few minutes 2010-10-27 06:59 well, any way to reset the laptop without the need of pressing the power button 2010-10-27 06:59 but then it ran out of power 2010-10-27 06:59 ah, ok 2010-10-27 06:59 ok, so you think that if you had a second, fully charged battery, it would start up? 2010-10-27 07:00 sure 2010-10-27 07:00 have you tried to remove the battery, plug the AC and try to start it up? 2010-10-27 07:00 yes 2010-10-27 07:01 maybe if the battery is present, the hardware checks for it's charge level and if it's low, it prohibits from turning it on 2010-10-27 07:01 hmm maybe so 2010-10-27 07:01 so what do i do? 2010-10-27 07:02 well, i'm not an expert in this stuff, but i'd say you first need to try any possible configurations you are able to test 2010-10-27 07:02 so remove the battery, plug AC in, and try to boot the laptop 2010-10-27 07:07 damn it doesnt work.. the blue power light turns on for a second but then nothing happens 2010-10-27 07:07 and the light on the brick is blinking.. i wonder what that means 2010-10-27 07:21 hey, you still there? 2010-10-27 07:23 [commit] Xiangfu Liu:  fix the gpm94b0 init in zImage http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/d8efb94 2010-10-27 07:40 how to get the info regarding battery chargin g 2010-10-27 07:42 you talking to me? 2010-10-27 07:53 whosoever can tell me that how to get battery charging status ? 2010-10-27 07:58 nitin_gupta, /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status 2010-10-27 07:58 and how much charged ? 2010-10-27 08:01 nitin_gupta, /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity 2010-10-27 08:01 ok 2010-10-27 08:01 Furthermore, 2010-10-27 08:01 does NN get fully charged i.e 100% 2010-10-27 08:01 i am constantly getting 84 2010-10-27 08:02 Perfect calibration is impossible, so no. 2010-10-27 08:02 I suspect some batteries might go over 100% 2010-10-27 08:02 Knockoffs etc 2010-10-27 08:02 As I was saying, 2010-10-27 08:03 but inmy case it is not going above 84 or 86 2010-10-27 08:03 also NN is connected to USB port but status is "Not charging" 2010-10-27 08:09 ahhfhaidhfi, sorry, i was away. 2010-10-27 08:10 if it doesn't want to turn on with the AC adapter even if the battery is removed, sometihng must be wrong either with your adapter, or the laptop itself 2010-10-27 10:18 [commit] Juan64Bits: Adding RFM22b Example. http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/b0be121 2010-10-27 10:29 kristoffer: you emailed to the list about the #1137 mark in Takeshi's Linux kernel log 2010-10-27 10:29 what does it mean? 2010-10-27 10:30 wolfspraul, number of times he has recompiled the kernel 2010-10-27 10:30 never seen anything above 200 2010-10-27 10:31 ah 2010-10-27 10:31 persistant Japanese 2010-10-27 10:32 and few days since 2.6.36 is out :) 2010-10-27 10:32 he is the only person in the world working on a Milkymist / Milkymist One Linux kernel 2010-10-27 10:32 for about a year already 2010-10-27 10:32 he is constantly upleveling 2010-10-27 10:32 very nice work I think 2010-10-27 10:33 wolfspraul: is he working with Sebastian?.. I was thinking that sebastian is the only guy working there 2010-10-27 10:33 wolfspraul, for a second I thought I was the only one in sweden having a nanonote.. but Ornotermes stopped that 2010-10-27 10:34 Ornotermes, :P 2010-10-27 10:35 rafa: no no. we have 6 Milkymist One boards, and there are 3-4 active people 2010-10-27 10:35 rafa: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Community_news_2010-11-01#Milkymist 2010-10-27 10:35 wolfspraul: ahh.. great 2010-10-27 10:36 wolfspraul: wow.. a lot of work made 2010-10-27 10:37 yes 2010-10-27 10:37 sure 2010-10-27 10:37 :-) 2010-10-27 10:37 the free CPU of the future 2010-10-27 10:49 [commit] Juan64Bits: Adding RFM22b Example. http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/d302857 2010-10-27 11:11 [commit] Yanjun Luo: Change R16 to 1206 footprint, and support 300V. http://qi-hw.com/p/mmone-jtag-serial-cable/0fed69d 2010-10-27 11:37 I'd like to add "quiet" to the kernel cmdline, I understand u-boot handles that. 2010-10-27 11:37 How do I change the cmdline? 2010-10-27 11:38 Do I need to access the u-boot command line> 2010-10-27 11:38 ? 2010-10-27 11:51 Hmmm, 2.6.36 doesn't set up the usb0 virtual network adaptor 2010-10-27 11:51 Even though CONFIG_USB_ETH is set. 2010-10-27 13:45 Btw, Ive noticed that alot of you people are still using "a" in your sentences. Please be reminded that they are not patented by me. I can recommend moving over to "A" or "â". Licenses for the proper "a" can of course be purchased by individuals or larger projects. 2010-10-27 14:02 kristoffer: thAt is good to know sir, thAnks AgAin 2010-10-27 14:03 kristoffer: aaaaaaaaaaahh.. I just purchaaaaaaased 2010-10-27 14:08 Im afraid that you have filled your quota for this year, do you wish to do another purchase? 2010-10-27 14:14 is "e" expensier? 2010-10-27 14:17 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 2010-10-27 14:45 rafa: my organization owns exclusive rights to "e". As the most-common letter in many Western languages we find that enforcement of peacemeal licences is a waste of everyone's time. Instead we offer scaled site-licenses starting at US$98,000. I'm sure you'll agree that this is a more economical option for you. 2010-10-27 14:53 qbject, Ill trade you licenses for "qi-h(a)rdw(a)re" of I get one for "jlim(e)" and we can share the trial money for bringing rafa to justice. 2010-10-27 15:02 kristoffer: Done. Fire up the orbital piracy obliterator. 2010-10-27 16:55 qbject: ;-)) 2010-10-27 16:57 rafa: =D 2010-10-27 17:27 hola a todos!! una pregunta; donde esta el link de la pagina de la siguiente vercion del nanonote? 2010-10-27 17:28 Xue? 2010-10-27 17:28 no, eso es una cámara. 2010-10-27 17:28 heberth: no sé de ninguna versión siguiente 2010-10-27 17:29 viric:  pero por ahy escuche que la segunda vercion del nanonote tendra soporte de usb 2010-10-27 17:29 yo creo aber escuchado que estaban en planes de la segunda vercion.. 2010-10-27 17:29 viric: 2010-10-27 17:30 ni idea 2010-10-27 17:30 de dónde eres? 2010-10-27 17:30 de colombia 2010-10-27 17:30 soy vecino de kristianpaul 2010-10-27 17:31 ah 2010-10-27 17:31 viric:  y tu? 2010-10-27 17:31 yo catalán 2010-10-27 17:31 :O 2010-10-27 17:33 viric: heberth : hola, somos varios hablando espaniol.. deberiamos cambiar el idioma de este canal! :D 2010-10-27 17:33 o crear uno nuevo  #qi-hardware-es 2010-10-27 17:34 rafa: de donde es? 2010-10-27 17:35 de argentina 2010-10-27 17:35 soy vecino de kristianpaul aca en el chat ;) 2010-10-27 17:36 jejeje.. oy vivo a 15 minutos de la casa de el. en carro jeje 2010-10-27 17:36 ;) 2010-10-27 18:07 Anyone know if there is a way to manually sleep the Ben's screen, the way it does when it's been idle for a bit? 2010-10-27 18:14 echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/jz4740-fb/graphics/fb0/blank 2010-10-27 18:14 qbject: that's how you can force screen blanking 2010-10-27 18:15 mth does that turn off the backlight? 2010-10-27 18:15 it should 2010-10-27 18:15 sweet. 2010-10-27 18:15 Now I just have to figure out how to bind that to F8. 2010-10-27 18:17 it will even shut down the LCD controller 2010-10-27 18:17 the JZ4740's LCD controller, that is 2010-10-27 18:26 mth well, it works, but the screen pops right back on again without user input. 2010-10-27 18:27 I have no idea why that would happen, but maybe someone else does 2010-10-27 18:30 I'll ask the list. 2010-10-27 18:30 Thanks for the help. 2010-10-27 19:57 ah hey 2010-10-27 21:03 now that we realized that more than 50% on this channel speak spanish.. we are going to change the official language here.. 2010-10-27 21:03 Hola 2010-10-27 21:06 rafa: spanish takeover? 2010-10-27 21:16 takeover! takeover! ;) 2010-10-27 21:19 ;) 2010-10-27 21:19 Es muy sencillo hablar espaniol :) 2010-10-27 21:26 wolfspraul: rafa methril werner kristianpaul lisandropm viric hebert methril_work  and who knows how many people more talk spanish here.. I am convinced .. we need to talk using spanish 2010-10-27 21:26 Hola 2010-10-27 21:26 :) 2010-10-27 21:26 Hola 2010-10-27 21:27 jaja :D 2010-10-27 21:27 rafa: in the same spirith, almost all of us speak english.... 2010-10-27 21:27 why we need to talk spanish? 2010-10-27 21:27 methril: no idea.. just to force wolfspraul to learn spanish 2010-10-27 21:27 methril: is that enough? 2010-10-27 21:27 hehehe 2010-10-27 21:27 this could be nice 2010-10-27 21:27 but iwould like to not be force to learn german 2010-10-27 21:28 lisandropm: ha!.. we are forced.. .. I feel the power on me 2010-10-27 21:28 i started a course, and i desist 2010-10-27 21:28 methril: ooohh.. well, you will need to re start 2010-10-27 21:28 or chinesse 2010-10-27 21:28 methril: yes, german would be hard for me.. english is hard for me .. so maybe german is harder 2010-10-27 21:29 hola hola hola 2010-10-27 21:29 rafa, for me german is harder 2010-10-27 21:29 saludos 2010-10-27 21:29 rafa: ando mirando el cliente para sox 2010-10-27 21:29 pero nada 2010-10-27 21:29 we need a bot that translate with google translator 2010-10-27 21:29 to our preference language :) 2010-10-27 21:29 mas facil aprendo sdl y se le hace una interfaz 2010-10-27 21:29 kristianpaul: ;-)) 2010-10-27 21:30 methril: chinesse: I would like to learn.. China is a big country.. a lot of people.. maybe I should visit China some day as well. 2010-10-27 21:30 no si se si wolfspraul aprendio algo de español en colombia pero creo que no... 2010-10-27 21:31 in the computer world, is more natural speak english than spanish, we get so much words 2010-10-27 21:31 chinese cool language and writing indeed :) 2010-10-27 21:31 kristianpaul: cuando estuvo en BA luego de colombia no me dijo ni hola! 2010-10-27 21:31 :) 2010-10-27 21:31 jajaja 2010-10-27 21:31 :( 2010-10-27 21:31 jajaja 2010-10-27 21:32 kristianpaul: he knows chinesse, german, english.. maybe a bit of french? ... and we just ask him a bit of spanish :) 2010-10-27 21:32 french? 2010-10-27 21:32 why he did said that before ;) 2010-10-27 21:32 didnt* 2010-10-27 21:32 buen comienzo para aprender español 2010-10-27 21:32 uff!! french is hard 2010-10-27 21:33 intenta aprender frances ultimamente 2010-10-27 21:33 methril: not at all if you speak spanish 2010-10-27 21:33 the grammar is the most complicated i know (i could not said i know french) 2010-10-27 21:33 just memorice some words and verbs 2010-10-27 21:33 kristianpaul, brazilian portuguesse is easier 2010-10-27 21:33 yup 2010-10-27 21:34 i'm living in brazil, and i could speak with people ;) 2010-10-27 21:34 i think, may be i'm wrong you think spanish as in french, 2010-10-27 21:34 methril: your naitve langues is? 2010-10-27 21:34 kristianpaul, spanish 2010-10-27 21:34 kristianpaul, i'm from spain :) 2010-10-27 21:35 methril: ah why we'are talking in ENGLUSH """ 2010-10-27 21:35 hehehehe 2010-10-27 21:35 no se 2010-10-27 21:35 ah bueno 2010-10-27 21:35 ya somos mas :) 2010-10-27 21:35 pregunta ! 2010-10-27 21:35 como interpreto sharism en esñaol 2010-10-27 21:35 por eso rafa me puso entre los nicks de español 2010-10-27 21:35 jejeje 2010-10-27 21:35 español* 2010-10-27 21:35 si yo estaba confundido 2010-10-27 21:35 como respondio en ingles pues... 2010-10-27 21:36 por el resto del canal :) 2010-10-27 21:36 jeje 2010-10-27 21:36 si.. 2010-10-27 21:36 yo traduciria sharism como comparticion o compartiendo 2010-10-27 21:36 la lucha eternea del -es en freenode ;) 2010-10-27 21:36 jejeje 2010-10-27 21:36 pero bueno si tiene que ver con compartir 2010-10-27 21:36 comparticion suena raro 2010-10-27 21:37 pero tiene mas sentido 2010-10-27 21:37 share + ism 2010-10-27 21:37 almenos no es como decir share y ya 2010-10-27 21:37 gentilicio de compartir o algo asi 2010-10-27 21:37 ajap 2010-10-27 21:37 no le gustan mucho los gentilicios 2010-10-27 21:37 pero si 2010-10-27 21:37 seguramente compartiendo suena mejor 2010-10-27 21:37 es como por ese lado 2010-10-27 21:37 jejeje 2010-10-27 21:37 pero eso como decir "to share" 2010-10-27 21:37 entoces se le cambia el sentido a la palabra 2010-10-27 21:38 podemos traduzirlo como el arte de compartir 2010-10-27 21:38 :) 2010-10-27 21:38 suena mejor 2010-10-27 21:39 methril: estas trabajando con el milkymist en brazil tambien? 2010-10-27 21:39 no mucho, estoy siguiendo el desarrollo, con la intencion de usar milkymist 2010-10-27 21:39 :) 2010-10-27 21:39 ah usar el VJ? 2010-10-27 21:40 what's going on here, i thought brazillians spoke portuguese 2010-10-27 21:40 kristianpaul, ahora mismo no tengo ninguna FPGA, y ando bastante liado en el trabajo, pero esta en mente 2010-10-27 21:40 o el SoC? 2010-10-27 21:40 claro 2010-10-27 21:40 xdpirate, they do 2010-10-27 21:40 bueno qemu ayuda mucha 2010-10-27 21:40 mucho* 2010-10-27 21:40 yo tengo FPGA pero no con ram 2010-10-27 21:40 sirvr pero a medias. 2010-10-27 21:40 si, vi q tenias un Xilinx 2010-10-27 21:40 toca usar qemu para cosas como ulinux o rtems 2010-10-27 21:41 seguramente este fin de semana le dedique un tiempo a rtems 2010-10-27 21:41 pero no prometo nada (la vida familiar quita mucho tiempo) ;) 2010-10-27 21:41 hijos? 2010-10-27 21:41 ahh 2010-10-27 21:41 bueno si hay que disfrutar la familia 2010-10-27 21:41 xdpirate, i only live in brazil, but i'm not brazilian 2010-10-27 21:41 :) 2010-10-27 21:41 casi 2010-10-27 21:42 ahh, I see :) 2010-10-27 21:42 xdpirate, do you speak portuguesse? 2010-10-27 21:42 xdpirate: o español? ;) 2010-10-27 21:42 hijastros 2010-10-27 21:42 nope 2010-10-27 21:43 xdpirate: u from? 2010-10-27 21:43 norway 2010-10-27 21:43 cool 2010-10-27 21:43 more people from there here at irc? 2010-10-27 21:46 pero si es cierto que la mayoria de personas en este canal entienden ingles rafa 2010-10-27 21:46 puede ser algo incomodo ver otro idioma 2010-10-27 21:47 asi cuando aparecen caracteres chinos en este canal una ves por mes... 2010-10-27 21:47 :| 2010-10-27 21:52 methril: yo le dije a kristianpaul que sharism podria ser traducido como "libera tu mente" :D.. aunque sea un significado completamente distinto :D 2010-10-27 21:53 methril: igual no se me ocurrio' a mi.. estabamos buscando algo de sharism en internet y salio' eso :P 2010-10-27 21:53 o algo parecido 2010-10-27 21:53 es que libera tu mente es algo generico y re-usado.. 2010-10-27 21:53 nose.. 2010-10-27 21:55 seria mejor comparte tu idea 2010-10-27 21:55 :) 2010-10-27 21:56 kristianpaul: si .. obvio 2010-10-27 21:56 rafa, kristianpaul aunque no me gustan las traducciones ;) 2010-10-27 21:56 methril: comparte tu idea suena bien 2010-10-27 21:56 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [config.full_system] add gnuplot http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/9869df5 2010-10-27 21:56 no claro que no bueno no para tdoas las palabras del ingles 2010-10-27 21:57 por eso tenemos tantos anglicismos ultimamente ;) para intentar decir con pocas palabras lo q necesitarias frases enteras para decir 2010-10-27 21:57 jejeje 2010-10-27 21:58 cierto 2010-10-27 22:12 noches ! 2010-10-27 22:12 noches 2010-10-27 22:14 methril: por cierto gcc 4.5.1 y el ultimo biutils funcionan bien con el lm32 de milkymist :) 2010-10-27 22:14 por fin migre :) 2010-10-27 22:14 sip, yo tbm lo use 2010-10-27 22:20 tiene que aprender muchoo de la cadena de compilacion de gnu :/ 2010-10-27 22:20 chao 2010-10-27 22:22 no recomienda aprender demasiado de gcc/binutils/gdb es casi un infierno