2010-10-26 02:13 <kyak> .FHH
2010-10-26 03:32 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: ah, they look a little odd indeed
2010-10-26 03:32 <wpwrak> hmm, one of my disks went offline. need to check what's up ...
2010-10-26 05:22 <lekernel> (from ron's link) http://www.physics.rutgers.edu/ugrad/387/388s06/film_deposition/Musgraves05.pdf
2010-10-26 05:31 <mstevens> exciting news!
2010-10-26 07:28 <wolfspraul> wow werner is still not back, well let's hope his harddisk failure was not too bad...
2010-10-26 11:47 <qi-bot> [commit] Yanjun Luo: Update usb_jtag.lst http://qi-hw.com/p/mmone-jtag-serial-cable/f9a1159
2010-10-26 11:47 <qi-bot> [commit] Yanjun Luo: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:mmone-jtag-serial-cable http://qi-hw.com/p/mmone-jtag-serial-cable/c3c13a6
2010-10-26 11:47 <qi-bot> [commit] Yanjun Luo: Remove C2/C4/R3/R4, high speed works now. http://qi-hw.com/p/mmone-jtag-serial-cable/87b791d
2010-10-26 14:17 <qi-bot> [commit] Lars-Peter Clausen: Framebuffer notifier: Call notifier callbacks prior to blanking the screen http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/b50a70e
2010-10-26 14:17 <qi-bot> [commit] Lars-Peter Clausen: POWER: jz4740-battery: Protect against concurrent battery readings http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/ace61dc
2010-10-26 21:34 <kristianpaul> discover the qi hardware t-shirt
2010-10-26 21:39 <kristianpaul> reads the social contract http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Social_contract
2010-10-26 21:41 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: he, all sorts of attempts to write 'documents'
2010-10-26 21:41 <wolfspraul> but somehow we can never finish them...
2010-10-26 21:41 <kristianpaul> "sharism for expensive tools, scopes, spectrum analyzers, protocol analyzers, laser cutters, test chambers, x-ray machines. copyleft hardware company should be like hacklab. " i like
2010-10-26 21:42 <kristianpaul> "access to EVBs, prototypes, unused parts. Loan stuff, ask it back, or after finish send to the next person. Be careful with stuff, keep everything in good shape. " good to know i'll keep in shape ;)
2010-10-26 21:42 <kristianpaul> btw
2010-10-26 21:42 <kristianpaul> can you mail  or publish your slides from cparty?
2010-10-26 21:43 <kristianpaul> i'll give a small talk about copyleft hardware this friday
2010-10-26 21:43 <wolfspraul> sure it's still not uploaded because I still think about the file format
2010-10-26 21:43 <kristianpaul> i just want check yous slides in case i see soemthing usefull to take from
2010-10-26 21:43 <wolfspraul> I made the presentation in scribus
2010-10-26 21:43 <wolfspraul> can I just email you the pdf?
2010-10-26 21:43 <kristianpaul> sure
2010-10-26 21:43 <wolfspraul> unfortunately scribus doesn't have a container file format
2010-10-26 21:43 <kristianpaul> win show 23
2010-10-26 21:43 <kristianpaul> oops
2010-10-26 21:44 <wolfspraul> so it's like 20 files or so
2010-10-26 21:44 <wolfspraul> I didnt' know whether I should upload a tarball...
2010-10-26 21:44 <kristianpaul> files?
2010-10-26 21:44 <kristianpaul> why not a single pdf?
2010-10-26 21:44 <wolfspraul> I can send you a single PDF
2010-10-26 21:44 <wolfspraul> sure
2010-10-26 21:44 <wolfspraul> but that's not (easily) editable
2010-10-26 21:45 <kristianpaul> i just need text, can i copy text from it?
2010-10-26 21:45 <kristianpaul> or wel i can install scribus
2010-10-26 21:45 <kristianpaul> (just realizing this kind of sofware exists)
2010-10-26 21:46 <wolfspraul> scribus is actually pretty good for presentations
2010-10-26 21:46 <wolfspraul> I played with lyx once, that was very painful
2010-10-26 21:46 <wolfspraul> inkscape - no - way too much focused on graphics
2010-10-26 21:46 <wolfspraul> but scribus works, for me
2010-10-26 21:46 <wolfspraul> let me email you the pdf first
2010-10-26 21:46 <wolfspraul> if you need more I'll either email or upload it
2010-10-26 21:46 <wolfspraul> it's 100% cc-by-sa or cc-by licensed, of course. do with it whatever you like.
2010-10-26 21:46 <kristianpaul> thanks
2010-10-26 21:47 <kristianpaul> sure i can give back what i'm working on (in spanish for now)
2010-10-26 21:50 <wolfspraul> rafa: do you know what happened to Werner and his disks?
2010-10-26 21:50 <kristianpaul> hmm
2010-10-26 21:51 <kristianpaul> remenbers do backup more often
2010-10-26 21:51 <wolfspraul> I haven't seen him offline like this in years, unless he was traveling from Buenos Aires to Taipei :-)
2010-10-26 21:53 <kristianpaul> i wonder thats is that kind of situation when checking a disk ends in reinstalling sofware :/
2010-10-26 21:53 <kristianpaul> hope no
2010-10-26 22:01 <kristianpaul> no no scribus not for me, what that uglt interface..
2010-10-26 22:01 <kristianpaul> scared
2010-10-26 22:06 <kristianpaul> support alternative/recyling/non-commercial projects
2010-10-26 22:07 <kristianpaul> what kidn of support?
2010-10-26 22:07 <kristianpaul> or exampler for NC
2010-10-26 22:07 <kristianpaul> ..
2010-10-26 22:07 <wolfspraul> what? can't understand you :-)
2010-10-26 22:07 <wolfspraul> are you still talking about scribus?
2010-10-26 22:08 <kristianpaul> i was
2010-10-26 22:09 <kristianpaul> latelly about the Social Conttract
2010-10-26 22:09 <kristianpaul> nv words about scribus ;)
2010-10-26 22:11 <wolfspraul> if you don't like something in that doc, just edit
2010-10-26 22:11 <kristianpaul>  weed a sustem to share hardware as books may be?
2010-10-26 22:12 <kristianpaul> sure i will i just dint understand that line
2010-10-26 22:12 <kristianpaul> s/sustem/system
2010-10-26 22:14 <wolfspraul> I think these kinds of document will almost write themselves, after we have 2 prerequisites:
2010-10-26 22:15 <wolfspraul> 1. products that are attractive to regular people (not just Linux hackers)
2010-10-26 22:15 <wolfspraul> 2. a group of people that can independently make a living, or at least some extra income, from copyleft hardware
2010-10-26 22:15 <wolfspraul> once we have those two writing a few docs to explain our rules, principles, beliefs, etc. will be a no-brainer
2010-10-26 22:15 <wolfspraul> writing them now is very hard because many things are too hypothetical
2010-10-26 22:16 <wolfspraul> so I rather do some practical work :-)
2010-10-26 22:19 <rafa> wolfspraul: interesting.. I did not read about that werner disk problem.. no idea.. let me check with a sms ;)
2010-10-26 22:22 <wolfspraul> yeah
2010-10-26 22:22 <wolfspraul> send a 'pad on his shoulder' sms
2010-10-26 22:27 <rafa> sent
2010-10-26 22:27 <kristianpaul> rafa: any ideas to translate/interpretate the word Sharism to spanish
2010-10-26 22:27 <kristianpaul> i'm not sure if caridad works very well..
2010-10-26 22:27 <kristianpaul> cause is not just about that..
2010-10-26 22:28 <kristianpaul> is not share, so not compartir
2010-10-26 22:28 <kristianpaul> so the ism
2010-10-26 22:28 <kristianpaul> compartimiento ? xD
2010-10-26 22:28 <rafa> yeah.. hard..
2010-10-26 22:28 <kristianpaul> :/
2010-10-26 22:29 <rafa> kristianpaul: I think that David or Victor would find a proper word :) they often write/translate a lot of work using english and spanish at the same time
2010-10-26 22:29 <kristianpaul> tuxbrain !!
2010-10-26 22:29 <kristianpaul> ahh he is not her.
2010-10-26 22:29 <kristianpaul> yeah i'll ask then tomorrow
2010-10-26 22:30 <rafa> "Sharism is a concept initiated by Isaac Mao. It's presented as "Mind Revolution": The more you give, the more you get. The more you share, the more you are shared."
2010-10-26 22:30 <kristianpaul> i can said the last in spanish
2010-10-26 22:30 <kristianpaul> :)
2010-10-26 22:30 <rafa> that is something at least ;)
2010-10-26 22:32 <rafa> but I am not sure that Isaac Mao is the guy we want to read about sharism
2010-10-26 22:32 <rafa> Libera tu mente :)
2010-10-26 22:33 <kristianpaul> :D
2010-10-26 23:57 <wolfspraul> wpwrak: still alive?
2010-10-26 23:57 <wolfspraul> that sounded bad yesterday...
2010-10-26 23:58 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: somwhat ... pc still has troubles.
2010-10-26 23:58 <wolfspraul> hmm
2010-10-26 23:58 <wolfspraul> lost any valuable data or setups?
2010-10-26 23:59 <wpwrak> one of my disks started throwing errors. so i shut the box down and examined everything. replaced the power supply (that was pending already) and the disk.
2010-10-26 23:59 <wolfspraul> ahh
2010-10-26 23:59 <wolfspraul> I remember many years ago, I had a RAID array somewhere
2010-10-26 23:59 <wolfspraul> and was literally working full-time on error after error
2010-10-26 23:59 <wolfspraul> for about a week