2010-10-16 01:44 in nanonote how much memory is required to boot the system and work properly 2010-10-16 01:45 also if I am using micro SD card and will it be allocated to particular inode always or different ? 2010-10-16 02:06 anybody answer my query 2010-10-16 06:17 how can i develop a GUI application fro nanonote 2010-10-16 06:22 can anybody help be building GUI based application for nanonote 2010-10-16 06:33 there are a few people who have done GUI stuff on the NN. may take a while for them to wake up, though :) 2010-10-16 06:43 nitin_gupta: what's your question? 2010-10-16 06:53 I want to develop a GUI based application 2010-10-16 06:53 how to develop it and compile  it 2010-10-16 07:09 nitin_gupta, first you have to choose the gui library you want to use, then you develop your app and finally you use the mips cross compiler to build a binary 2010-10-16 07:11 i haven't been paying attention to the default owrt distro, but it probably is still framebuffer only, so your only choice would be libSDL (unless qt or gtk for framebuffer are ported already). There are however X11 based distros for the nanonote, namely Debian and JLime. Both should offer you a greater variety of gui libs to choose 2010-10-16 07:13 zear: sdl, qt and gtk+ all work (minus bugs) in the OpenWrt images 2010-10-16 07:13 but yes it's all framebuffer based, unlike Jlime which is all X-based 2010-10-16 07:14 kristianpaul: do you mind if we rename the wiki page GPS_Open_Stack to GPS_Free_Stack? 2010-10-16 07:16 nitin_gupta, SDL is the most portable one, it can run on non-posix architectures, like wince. The problem with libSDL is it doesn't offer you any ready gui elements. You'd have to design the whole gui from scratch. But it is also it's feature, as you can design any graphical app you want, there are no predefined gui limits like in qt or gtk 2010-10-16 07:21 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Fixed typo in panasonic.gen affecting ERJ-P14 parts. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/71c15a5 2010-10-16 07:21 [commit] Werner Almesberger: stackpole.gen produced only garbage. Fixed it. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/d4d34d7 2010-10-16 07:21 [commit] Werner Almesberger: boom/mbq2lst: utility to generate a KiCad-style BOM from a more human-friendly http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/7190706 2010-10-16 07:21 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Test query to exercise the big resistor database we now have. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/df88430 2010-10-16 07:21 wolfspraul: here's one more file extension for you: .mbq, for manual bom query 2010-10-16 07:22 now, i can finally do my resistor shopping in style ;-) 2010-10-16 07:35 well, should add yageo to the database too. they're the 3rd major source. 2010-10-16 07:36 if I develop a application in qt, will it run on NN ? 2010-10-16 07:37 I think NanoMap is written in Qt 2010-10-16 07:37 imgv is written in SDL 2010-10-16 07:37 is Stardict using GTK? might be... 2010-10-16 07:37 I would suggest to use an existing app as a starting point. 2010-10-16 07:37 from where I can the source of existing app ? 2010-10-16 07:39 as you said Nanomap is written in qt, then if I make a project in qt then how to cross compile it for NN ? 2010-10-16 07:39 follow what nanomap does 2010-10-16 07:39 what ???? 2010-10-16 07:41 sorry you have to study/experiment yourself a little, I can't walk you through the entire procedure 2010-10-16 07:41 start with openwrt, build a package (any package, take the smallest) 2010-10-16 07:41 then try to build nanomap 2010-10-16 07:41 you just tell me the cross compilation procedure 2010-10-16 07:41 at that point you already have an excellent starting point for your own qt-based app 2010-10-16 07:41 have you played with openwrt? 2010-10-16 07:42 nope 2010-10-16 07:42 so that's a good starting point, www.openwrt.org 2010-10-16 07:42 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image 2010-10-16 07:42 I have developed console based application and it is running properly but no idea about GUI one 2010-10-16 07:42 ... which brings us back to the quest for a toolchain/SDK like the one we had in Openmoko :) 2010-10-16 07:42 nitin_gupta: you should spend some time reading 2010-10-16 07:42 wow great, you mean you have already cross-compiled an app for the NanoNote? 2010-10-16 07:43 yes 2010-10-16 07:43 but that is just a simple single C file 2010-10-16 07:43 then why do you ask me about walking you through the cross compilation procedure? 2010-10-16 07:43 it's not nice at all that cross-compilation gets tied to the guts of the distro build process like this. granted, openwrt is less suffering than, say, OE, but still ... 2010-10-16 07:43 how/where did you get the cross compiler? 2010-10-16 07:44 wpwrak: actually OpenWrt is able to generate nice SDKs and 'ImageBuilder' including everything you need to get started 2010-10-16 07:44 we just haven't foudn the discipline yet to regularly publish these things, and documentation for how to use them 2010-10-16 07:45 ok 2010-10-16 07:45 dont worry I will put all my findings on my blog for all NN users and developers 2010-10-16 07:46 the only thing left with me is GUI based app . 2010-10-16 07:46 wolfspraul, nitin_gupta: sounds cool, thanks ! 2010-10-16 09:40 xiangfu: a was 50 seconds faster ;-) 2010-10-16 09:41 wpwrak :) 2010-10-16 09:44 wpwrak: by reading Bas and your email about dpkg-shalips warning. I still don't know which is your decide ?  (sorry for my bad English) 2010-10-16 09:44 wpwrak: I think about the Debian package I just ignore those warning. 2010-10-16 09:46 xiangfu: ah, i haven't replied yet, sorry. i think just ignoring the warnings is okay for now. 2010-10-16 09:47 wpwrak: ok. 2010-10-16 09:47 xiangfu: fped isn't the sort of thing you'd run on a very constrained system anyway, so having a few unnecessary library dependencies isn't too bad. (besides, everyone else probably has them too ;-) 2010-10-16 09:48 wpwrak: ok. 2010-10-16 09:49 xiangfu: and it seems a clean solution to the problem is something distribution makers, whoever maintains pkg-config, and the binutils guys will have to figure out. i guess that may take a while :) 2010-10-16 09:50 wpwrak: after add "-Wl,--as-needed" to Makefile line 40 : CFLGAS... then recompile the package. I still got those warning. if there something wrong? I think I add it to a correct line. 2010-10-16 09:51 when linking, CFLAGS aren't used :) you could either introduce LDFLAGS or just add it to the "fped:" rule directly 2010-10-16 09:52 actually ... let me add LDFLAGS. that doesn't hurt. 2010-10-16 09:53 done. r5986 2010-10-16 09:53 wpwrak: thanks. :) 2010-10-16 09:55 wpwrak: git svn rebase ing...   then create a new debian package with 5986. 2010-10-16 09:56 it's not a change you need to push if you don't want to. the result is exactly the same as in the previous revision. 2010-10-16 09:56 it's now just a little easier to add linker flags. 2010-10-16 09:58 ah, if you want to, you can now of course override LDFLAGS in the package-making script. it's a little dangerous because LDFLAGS may be non-empty in the future, but for now, that would be an easy way to add -Wl,--as-needed to the package build process. 2010-10-16 09:59 wpwrak: yes. I just want sync to upstream since I already know there is a commit. I think I will take 5986 as a TAG now. 2010-10-16 10:02 alright 2010-10-16 10:05 wpwrak: I want learn more hardware stuff. Can you recommend some books for me. thanks. 2010-10-16 10:05 wpwrak: I want understand more about 'clock' 'bus' etc. 2010-10-16 10:06 wpwrak: thanks. 2010-10-16 10:06 most of the time, the best book is life ;-) there are lots of very specialized things you need to know, and the general books usually don't cover them. however, there are a few useful ones ... lemme look them up ... 2010-10-16 10:08 for a general introduction, "Designing Embedded Hardware" by John Catoulis (O'Reilly) isn't too bad 2010-10-16 10:10 then there's "The Circuit Designer's Companion" by Tim Williams (Elsevier). it's about electronics in general and at a slightly more advanced level. it tells you want to look for to make sure your circuits actually work in real life, not only on paper. 2010-10-16 10:14 wpwrak: very thanks. (first try to find this book in China :) 2010-10-16 10:14 yeah, that's the two i would recommend. there are more detailed books on electronics and some of the theoretical stuff, but i haven't found one that's really an overall big improvement over what those two have. sometimes the more detailed books have better material on some very specific problem, but that's usually a matter of luck. 2010-10-16 10:16 they're pretty well-globalized: i got the o'reilly in india and the other in taiwan :) 2010-10-16 10:23 stock exhausted in amazon.cn 2010-10-16 10:24 Morning everyone. 2010-10-16 10:26 Wolfspraul: are there nonfunctional bnns out there somewhere available to someone intersted in doing some mechanical reverse-engineering? 2010-10-16 10:28 up next on "does it blend ?" the ben nanoparticles ;-) 2010-10-16 10:29 What you talkin' 'bout, wpwrak? 2010-10-16 10:29 qbject: he. you try to challenge wpwrak ? http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/ben-scans/ 2010-10-16 10:29 no right now I don't have anything. even finding the parts for Werner took a bit of time, and some are still missing. 2010-10-16 10:30 I think tuxbrain has 3 or 4 returned devices, maybe they could be used, but give me a bit of time. 2010-10-16 10:30 I will definitely remember your request and we can do something if you are interested. 2010-10-16 10:31 Wolfspraul: I'm well aware of Werner's good work. My interest is designing a housing which can be programmed by hand or even be made on manual equipment, rather than contouring or injection-molding. 2010-10-16 10:32 Thanks! If nothing comes up I'll likely buy a spare from djbclark, but I appreciate you keeping an ear open. 2010-10-16 10:56 qbject: (nanoparticles) "mechanical reverse-engineering" has a bit of that sound :) 2010-10-16 10:57 qbject: maybe ask on the list of there's anyone not too far from you with a broken one ? 2010-10-16 10:57 s/of/if/ 2010-10-16 10:57 Ohhh. I see. "Yeah, we'll just feed it to the gray goo and see what comes out." 2010-10-16 10:58 Mm. Will do. 2010-10-16 10:59 Is wolfspraul located in China? 2010-10-16 11:03 afaik yes 2010-10-16 11:12 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Corrected build rule for .equ files in boom/dist/dk/ http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/58bca0e 2010-10-16 11:12 [commit] Werner Almesberger: ds-catq.pl: allow selecting multiple values and added a test mode. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/331094e 2010-10-16 11:12 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added Yageo RC series chip resistors. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/bf0de45 2010-10-16 11:13 9099 parts in the database :) 2010-10-16 11:14 Thanks, larsc. 2010-10-16 11:14 Time to go play carpenter. 2010-10-16 12:04 hello 2010-10-16 12:05 can i the qi-hardware hardware design files (kicad version) ? 2010-10-16 12:05 sorry, can i download the qi-hardware hardware design files (kicad version) ? 2010-10-16 12:35 [commit] carlos: fixing xmode initial delay http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/ee10724 2010-10-16 13:56 [commit] Juan64Bits: Adding FTDI to JTAG/PROG schematic page. http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/d499f7d 2010-10-16 14:17 do any of you spend all day in front of solidworks, autocad, catia, pro-e, solidedge, or anything like that? 2010-10-16 15:55 kanzure: i don't think so. but some of us spend a bit of time in front of heekcad, and of course kicad (electronics) 2010-10-16 18:04 wpwrak: yeah, i use heekscad too ( http://heekscad.org/ ) 2010-10-16 18:04 but not what i'm looking for. thx 2010-10-16 18:05 w/in 8 2010-10-16 18:05 p 2010-10-16 18:05 crap 2010-10-16 19:57 hello, do u maybe know where i could get some help about a weird graphic card error? 2010-10-16 21:03 [commit] carlos: Removing MM lm32 board http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/4900c79 2010-10-16 21:49 hello, I was wondering if I could get some help 2010-10-16 21:51 I was trying to put debian on an sd card, but I have failed 2010-10-16 21:51 qwebirc35353: hi.. where did you get the instructions? 2010-10-16 21:51 I got it from the site itself 2010-10-16 21:52 let me get you the url 2010-10-16 21:52 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Debian 2010-10-16 21:52 rafa: ahh, hi! :-) 2010-10-16 21:52 hello 2010-10-16 21:53 wolfspraul: hey! hi :) 2010-10-16 21:53 I wanted to ask you for a favor, do you have a simple screenshot of the latest Muffinman beta, right after it boots? 2010-10-16 21:53 taken on the device, not with a camera 2010-10-16 21:53 qwebirc35353: let me chech those instructions and I will help you 2010-10-16 21:53 I am working on the latest community news 2010-10-16 21:53 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Community_news_2010-11-01 2010-10-16 21:53 wolfspraul: let me check.. I should, if no I get it easy ;) 2010-10-16 21:53 ok 2010-10-16 21:54 need your help a litte... 2010-10-16 21:54 I also need a nice line about the latest Jlime status 2010-10-16 21:54 and at the bottom under 'plans for the future' I want to say something about the Jlime/OpenWrt dual-boot plan we have now 2010-10-16 21:54 there is still a lot of work to make it a reality, so not sure what exactly we want to say about it, or who 2010-10-16 21:55 rafa: the latest Jlime beta can still play mp3, right? 2010-10-16 21:55 wolfspraul: Okey, no problem, I will upload the screenshot and also I will write the status thing 2010-10-16 21:55 yes, great 2010-10-16 21:56 hmm, debian needs a very recent u-boot. how come ? 2010-10-16 21:56 rafa: could did you find something 2010-10-16 21:56 and we do have to fully eradicate mp3, at least for anything we are talking about and linking to from the qi servers 2010-10-16 21:56 wolfspraul: well, the latest Jlime beta could play mp3, but no with gmu.. and we have not said nothing that it can.. it is just mplayer which was built with many codecs.. But well, I have not seen people playing mp3 with muffinman because we never said that mplayer is okey for that :) 2010-10-16 21:56 wpwrak: I do not know why, but I did it 2010-10-16 21:57 (trying to see if there's a clue why so many people end up with bricked NNs after trying to install debian) 2010-10-16 21:57 wolfspraul: But, we already were talking to make a beta release without those mp3/mp4 problems inside 2010-10-16 21:57 qwebirc35353: does your NN still boot or has it joined the ranks of the bricked-by-debian ? :) 2010-10-16 21:57 rafa: that is not enough. the patent owners are not stupid and the technicians they have on staff will have an easy time demoing mp3 playing to their lawyers... 2010-10-16 21:58 rafa: maybe we want to postpone the Jlime news to the 12/1 community news then? 2010-10-16 21:58 11/1 is overloaded anyway 2010-10-16 21:58 wpwrak: my NN still boots openwrt, but I can not boot debian off the SD 2010-10-16 21:58 wolfspraul: yes, I know. So as we already discussed we (I) will make a beta4 version for qi/resellers without patents problems 2010-10-16 21:58 yes, I think in 12/1 we can make a bigger Jlime news section, I like that better 2010-10-16 21:58 what do you think? 2010-10-16 21:58 if you look at the 11/1 news, you could fill an average tech magazine with that content already... :-) 2010-10-16 21:59 wolfspraul: yes, I agree, because that was my idea : to release beta4 with a version without patent problems 2010-10-16 21:59 great! 2010-10-16 21:59 then let's do this 2010-10-16 21:59 I move the jlime snippets from 11/1 to 12/1 2010-10-16 21:59 okey, great 2010-10-16 22:00 when you have a beta4 screenshot (right after boot), upload it into the wiki and embed in the 12/1 news 2010-10-16 22:00 just fill in whatever you want to say in 12/1, it's a wiki... 2010-10-16 22:00 wolfspraul: (tech magazine) that's why you need an 11/18 ;-) 2010-10-16 22:00 Just out in the open, I wonder if anyone has been SUCCESSFULLY able to use debian 2010-10-16 22:00 wolfspraul: okey, I will. 2010-10-16 22:01 qwebirc35353: sorry, let me check. Which bootloader do you have? 2010-10-16 22:01 wolfspraul: remember the old c't ? monthly and the size of a telephone book. then they switched to twice a month. a good example to copy :) 2010-10-16 22:01 qwebirc35353: you know that= 2010-10-16 22:01 ? 2010-10-16 22:01 thats ok, I understand you guys are busy 2010-10-16 22:01 let me get that information 2010-10-16 22:01 grrr. 10/18. that 11 keeps on confusing me :-( 2010-10-16 22:02 wpwrak: it's too much work on my end. I'd rather do bi-monthly even. 2010-10-16 22:02 I also need to spend time on getting people to join, that's more important than me doing this or that. 2010-10-16 22:02 this is the bootloader that I am using openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-u-boot.bin 2010-10-16 22:02 and I need a lot of time to spread our news link to people, because the problem of most news is that they are not read by anybody :-) 2010-10-16 22:03 but I agree 11/1 is too much so I already moved some to 12/1, maybe will more more 2010-10-16 22:03 wolfspraul: (no time) maybe try again to outsource it then ? 2010-10-16 22:03 I enjoy, it also forces me to look at what's going on. 2010-10-16 22:03 for example I am currently git cloning Takeshi Matuya's Linux on LM32 tree :-) 2010-10-16 22:03 Matsuya 2010-10-16 22:03 I cannot always just point people to that URL but I actually don't know at all what is going on... 2010-10-16 22:04 wpwrak: did you see the 11/1 news? they are getting in shape :-) 2010-10-16 22:04 wolfspraul: (enjoy) yes, but if you can't keep up with the news, something's wrong 2010-10-16 22:04 wpwrak: the debian wiki page at qi says that you should update just uboot.. if you do that then maybe you break the rest of nand?.. No sure, but I need to nerase the whole nand when flashing stuff, then flash uboot, kernel and nand rootfs. 2010-10-16 22:04 wolfspraul: when will you close 11/1 ? 2010-10-16 22:04 SIE is crazy short on facts, I have to dig out some things. 2010-10-16 22:05 wpwrak: so people have brick their NN from flashing debian? 2010-10-16 22:05 these guys are just not talking... :-) 2010-10-16 22:05 rafa: hmm, that would be a candidate 2010-10-16 22:05 qwebirc35353: that looks like a proper uboot. What did you get with debian?. I mean... which are the symptoms? 2010-10-16 22:06 qwebirc35353: whenever someone shows up here with a bricked NN, it's debian. not sure if there are so many people trying debian that this is just the normal rate of mishap or if something's wrong there 2010-10-16 22:06 rafa: well when I stick the sd card and press M will powering on, it says file system not found 2010-10-16 22:07 qwebirc35353: okey.. I understand that you did an ext2 filesystem on first partition on sd right? 2010-10-16 22:07 wpwrak: well I assume if one person did it that it could be atleast done once 2010-10-16 22:07 which I have yet to have done yet 2010-10-16 22:07 qwebirc35353: did you install debian from openwrt or from your pc? 2010-10-16 22:07 qwebirc35353: how big is your  SD? how big is your first partition? 2010-10-16 22:08 qwebirc35353: now you have a couple of question that you need to reply :) 2010-10-16 22:08 rafa: a test would be to flash u-boot, then change something trivial (such that it doesn't break, maybe some progress message) and flash again 2010-10-16 22:08 I did have an ext filesystem put it was not the first partition 2010-10-16 22:08 rafa: if you get the new, all is well, if you get  old | new  then we know what's happening 2010-10-16 22:08 qwebirc35353: then there is your problem 2010-10-16 22:08 rafa I installed it from my pc 2010-10-16 22:08 qwebirc35353: you need ext2 on first partition 2010-10-16 22:08 my SD is 16GB 2010-10-16 22:08 rafa: (flash without prior erase, like the wiki page suggests) 2010-10-16 22:08 qwebirc35353: uboot just reads the first partition as ext2 2010-10-16 22:09 qwebirc35353: so if you want debian there.. you need to creat the ext2 fs on first partition on your sd 2010-10-16 22:09 qwebirc35353: that's a bug in u-boot 2010-10-16 22:09 u-boot's ext2 handling is buggy for large SD cards or large partitions/filesystems 2010-10-16 22:09 I have never seen it with cards up to 2 gb 2010-10-16 22:09 qwebirc35353: and the SD looks big as well.. like wolfspraul is telling 2010-10-16 22:09 rafa: when I put the SD back into my computer the file system was not there anymore 2010-10-16 22:10 with 4 and 8 it's hit and miss, all my 16 cards show the bug 2010-10-16 22:10 xiangfu is on it 2010-10-16 22:10 wolfspraul: that may be a nice project for carlos' students: make an sd card simulator (SD implemented in the SIE's FPGA) that accesses a real file for the data 2010-10-16 22:10 qwebirc35353: if you can get a smaller sd I would advise you to try to create an ext2 fs on first partition.. and if you can try to make it no so big (2gb should be okey) 2010-10-16 22:10 qwebirc35353: you can try a small partition on the big card, say 1 gb or so 2010-10-16 22:10 the lowest SD card I have is a 4GB 2010-10-16 22:11 wolfspraul: that way, it may be easier to debug such problems 2010-10-16 22:11 try with a small partition, even on the 16gb card, and let us know 2010-10-16 22:11 qwebirc35353: that should be okey.. try to make a first ext2 partitiont there and  put debian 2010-10-16 22:11 it's a simple little software bug, but annoying 2010-10-16 22:12 rafa: I moved the Jlime news to 12/1 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Community_news_2010-12-01 2010-10-16 22:12 when you have beta4, screenshot, dual-booting plans etc. just update the page 2010-10-16 22:12 wolfspraul: ok I will try a smaller partion 2010-10-16 22:12 wpwrak: uboot flashing test.. yeah.. that should show something I guess 2010-10-16 22:13 wolfspraul: great.. thanks for that.. I will fill the details when something is ready 2010-10-16 22:13 qwebirc35353: remember that you should do the ext2 partition as first partition 2010-10-16 22:14 wolfspraul: you may want to consider making an end-of-the-year update, too. first of all, you may be away/busy around 1/1, so you avoid piling up too much, and second, many people will have time to play over the holidays, so there may be a larger amount of news early in january 2010-10-16 22:14 rafa: is there a way to do this via fdisk /dev/sdb1 method as posted on the site 2010-10-16 22:14 or should I just do the partion via gpart on my linux machine? 2010-10-16 22:15 qwebirc35353: fdisk /dev/sdb   ! not /dev/sdb1 2010-10-16 22:15 qwebirc35353: mm? what do you mean?.. you should run fdisk /dev/sdb 2010-10-16 22:15 qwebirc35353: and you can do that on you linux machine (PC) 2010-10-16 22:15 your 2010-10-16 22:15 wpwrak: yes, that was a typo, sorry 2010-10-16 22:16 qwebirc35353: (typo) darn. i was hoping to have found the problem :) 2010-10-16 22:16 lol, thanks for trying 2010-10-16 22:17 qwebirc35353: something important that you maybe already know.. but you need to mount before "tar xvzf debian rootfs" and then UMOUNT the thing 2010-10-16 22:17 ok 2010-10-16 22:19 scary to see us juggling over /dev/sdwhatever here. if you are root, the disk you are booting from may only be a character away... 2010-10-16 22:21 wolfspraul: compared to learning how to make nitroglycerine, this learning process is quite gentle :) 2010-10-16 23:38 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added a warning that things under boom/ don't make much sense yet. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/f0519fc 2010-10-16 23:38 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Improve scalability by splitting the distributor cache. Additional cleanup and http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/57fc0bd 2010-10-16 23:38 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Moved resistor tolerance decoding to lib/tol.inc http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/20517e1 2010-10-16 23:38 [commit] Werner Almesberger: boom/dist/dk/dk-catq.pl: category regexp was mis-designed and it had a typo. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/310e886 2010-10-16 23:38 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added Yageo CC series of ceramic SMT capacitors. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/0b24c43 2010-10-16 23:38 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Removed knowledge about distributors from manufacturers and (partially) from http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/83d4e70 2010-10-16 23:38 [commit] Werner Almesberger: dk-catq.pl: allow selection of top category as well http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/046ae85 2010-10-16 23:38 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Yageo CC...R50 weren't recognized. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/9ddc70f 2010-10-16 23:38 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added Murata GRM series of ceramic SMT capacitors. http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/dff11db 2010-10-16 23:38 10411 parts :) 2010-10-16 23:38 wow 2010-10-16 23:38 :-) 2010-10-16 23:39 actually .. i should include parts without stock as well