2010-09-29 02:33 wpwrak: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/USB_product_ID_assignments 2010-09-29 02:50 I will now submit the update to linux-usb.org as you suggested 2010-09-29 02:50 I will use the description from the table in the wiki 2010-09-29 02:50 we can always update it later 2010-09-29 05:08 Hi 2010-09-29 05:09 I'm making a script for battery readings 2010-09-29 05:10 I see that I can get a reading in /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity but in what format is it? 2010-09-29 05:10 i have connected serial port to my PC at 115200 baud but getting garbage 2010-09-29 05:10 plz help 2010-09-29 05:10 I need to have serial port comm between nanonote and PC 2010-09-29 05:10 It doesn't go over 100 so I guess it's a percentage but it fluctuates a lot. 2010-09-29 05:15 qwebirc47789: it's 57600 not 115200 2010-09-29 05:16 qwebirc47789: also you need a ttl -- rs232 converter. 2010-09-29 05:16 i have tried 57600  also 2010-09-29 05:16 i have added ttl to 232 also 2010-09-29 05:17 flow control is none , databits -8 and stop bits 1 2010-09-29 05:25 i have opened minicom on nanonote and using ttyS0 to transmit data to PC at 115200 baud but getting nothing on hyperterminal 2010-09-29 05:25 while on oscilloscope both TTL and 232 level , output is there 2010-09-29 05:27 wolfspraul: (submit to linux-usb) great ! 2010-09-29 05:28 yeah sorry it took so long 2010-09-29 05:28 you first mentioned it in late July :-) 2010-09-29 05:28 nice system they setup there with the mail robot etc. 2010-09-29 05:33 wolfspraul: well, there's no rush :) (mail system) ah ? i never had anything to submit there 2010-09-29 05:33 you can just email a unified diff and that's it :-) 2010-09-29 05:35 oh, finally a geek-friendly interface ;-) 2010-09-29 05:41 xiangfu plz help me 2010-09-29 05:41 qwebirc47789: hmm... 2010-09-29 05:42 qwebirc47789: are you use minicom in your PC? 2010-09-29 05:43 qwebirc47789: are you sure the ttl - rs232 works fine ? 2010-09-29 05:44 using minicom on nanonote and hyperterminal on winxp PC 2010-09-29 05:44 hwo to confirm that ttl - 232 is workign fine 2010-09-29 05:51 qwebirc47789: you can connect the RX and TX pin. see if it can send all data back to you PC. 2010-09-29 05:52 ok 2010-09-29 05:59 loopback is workign fine 2010-09-29 05:59 actuall yI have used 7407 hex buffer to raise the output level to 5v 2010-09-29 06:08 aybody can help me with serial port 2010-09-29 06:19 hola 2010-09-29 06:30 Any idea on getting the current battery capacity in %? 2010-09-29 06:30 I see that I can get a reading in /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity but in what format is it? 2010-09-29 06:31 It fluctuates a lot, leading me to believe that it's either not accurate or entirely incorrect. 2010-09-29 06:34 capacity should be in percent 2010-09-29 07:11 krafa 2010-09-29 09:23 ...whats the bit-width of the nanonote? 2010-09-29 09:25 bit-width? 2010-09-29 09:25 you mean the screen resolution? 2010-09-29 09:26 wolfspraul: the cpu architecture. 2010-09-29 09:31 don't know enough about the various buses 2010-09-29 09:31 the registers are 32-bit I would think 2010-09-29 09:33 wolfspraul: (buses) DRAM is 16 bit, NAND is 8 bit, uSD 4 bit. 2010-09-29 09:34 whats the size of the int type? probably the simplist answer. 2010-09-29 09:35 Textmode: 32 bit 2010-09-29 09:36 thanks. 2010-09-29 13:00 [commit] Werner Almesberger: solidify/README: some documentation http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/c8b0a51 2010-09-29 13:00 [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added the license (GPLv2+) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/7ea7db8 2010-09-29 19:53 hey 2010-09-29 19:54 how long does a ben nanonote lasts with a full charge doing normal tasks? 2010-09-29 21:23 maden:  what is  normal task for you? 2010-09-29 21:23 talking on irc 2010-09-29 21:23 from my experience around 5 hours with gmu 2010-09-29 21:23 wait amin 2010-09-29 21:23 what about with no GUI 2010-09-29 21:23 irc? 2010-09-29 21:23 CLI only 2010-09-29 21:23 yes chat on irc from the cli 2010-09-29 21:23 but using wich internet conection? 2010-09-29 21:24 micro SD card 2010-09-29 21:24 ahh 2010-09-29 21:24 good point 2010-09-29 21:24 lets say 2010-09-29 21:24 text editing in vi 2010-09-29 21:24 from cli 2010-09-29 21:24 wifi pulls energy for sure even nomal tasks you do 2010-09-29 21:24 how long dyou think it could last 2010-09-29 21:24 i cant estimate i dont have idea about wifi power consuption 2010-09-29 21:24 forget about wifi 2010-09-29 21:24 :p 2010-09-29 21:25 i cant 2010-09-29 21:25 you already said it 2010-09-29 21:25 put shades on I'm a men in black and I will flashs you 2010-09-29 21:25 how long do you think it can last doing vi editing 2010-09-29 21:36 hmm 3hrs? 2010-09-29 21:36 the screen on have costs 2010-09-29 21:36 s/screen/display 2010-09-29 21:37 Ben dont use ink display afaik wolfspraul ;) 2010-09-29 21:38 o 2010-09-29 21:40 maden: what is your measure by experience? 2010-09-29 21:44 m measure? 2010-09-29 21:44 my measure? 2010-09-29 21:46 about battery charge life 2010-09-29 21:46 how long you did vi editing with tyour ben? 2010-09-29 21:46 I don't own one 2010-09-29 21:46 ahh 2010-09-29 21:46 I'm thinking about maybe purchasing one in a near future 2010-09-29 21:46 i tought 2010-09-29 21:46 sure go ahead ! 2010-09-29 21:46 i'm jobless and broke ! 2010-09-29 21:47 and college books are expensive :( 2010-09-29 21:47 you now what is PDF for? ;) 2010-09-29 21:47 also a Ben is an intersting development platform 2010-09-29 21:48 my college uses the latest editions of books 2010-09-29 21:48 which is amazingly annoying 2010-09-29 21:48 instead of using version 8, they use version 9, so we can't buy it off people who used it the previous year 2010-09-29 21:48 it's amazingly sutpid 2010-09-29 21:49 but yeha I got a job interview at costco soon if I get the job I'm buying a nano note :P! 2010-09-29 21:49 indeed 2010-09-29 21:49 :) 2010-09-29 21:49 what you like most from the nanonote? 2010-09-29 21:50 fists in my pocket - hah 2010-09-29 21:50 fits* 2010-09-29 21:50 :) 2010-09-29 21:50 I already own a netbook but I'm growing tired of it 2010-09-29 21:50 it's old and weak 2010-09-29 21:58 :) 2010-09-29 21:59 you? 2010-09-29 21:59 why did you get one in the first place ? 2010-09-29 22:05 because is copyleft hardware movement 2010-09-29 22:05 i also ALWAYS wanted a free runnner 2010-09-29 22:05 but was toooo expensive 2010-09-29 22:05 and actually not so "open" as markenting said 2010-09-29 22:05 so.. 2010-09-29 22:06 i saw it in the 2009 in a blog 2010-09-29 22:06 dont remeneber wich one 2010-09-29 22:06 the pictures was really asware 2010-09-29 22:06 cool 2010-09-29 22:06 so you've had one for a while? 2010-09-29 22:07 qi something i remenberd tbut as time pass i forgot, until a friend tell me about qi-hardware and then WOW is real :) 2010-09-29 22:07 a while some moths 2010-09-29 22:08 3-4 mpoths ago 2010-09-29 22:18 maden: kristianpaul is a core Qi member now, for sure. He's doing a lot of case hacking with his 3D printer, and GPS (more coming in the future), and he's interested in Milkymist too. In everything actually, it seems :-) 2010-09-29 22:19 oh 2010-09-29 22:20 well not so everithing but Milkymist is awesome ! 2010-09-29 22:21 and ben is cheap and hackable so.. 2010-09-29 22:22 the case well is easy 2010-09-29 22:22 is not so advanced figure 2010-09-29 22:23 and well the floss 3D printing is there so why not use it ;) 2010-09-29 22:24 maden: so.. , join us, all this is getting fun :) 2010-09-29 22:25 i might i might :p 2010-09-29 22:25 it seems very interesting i must admit 2010-09-29 22:27 what'S milkymist? 2010-09-29 22:28 a Sytem on Chip copyleft platform 2010-09-29 22:28 maden: a free (gpl licensed) CPU 2010-09-29 22:28 also a VJ sation 2010-09-29 22:28 basically a replacement for Intel/AMD/ARM/MIPS 2010-09-29 22:28 ohh 2010-09-29 22:29 my knowledge of hardware is so very limited 2010-09-29 22:29 it's far from being a field of interest of mine, unfortunately 2010-09-29 22:29 what about software? 2010-09-29 22:29 maden: what are you interested in? 2010-09-29 22:29 software! 2010-09-29 22:30 i dont know MUCH about it but I'm very interested in programming 2010-09-29 22:32 well, pick a small problem that relates to your real life, and solve it with cool free software :-) 2010-09-29 22:32 that's going to be hard enough... 2010-09-29 22:33 if you like the portability of the Ben, go get one and try to solve the problem there. There are several starting points for software development on the Ben, I think the best are OpenWrt and Jlime, some people might say Debian but I think the device is a bit too constrained for Debian. 2010-09-29 22:33 what languages are supported by openwrt ? 2010-09-29 22:33 obviously C but what else? 2010-09-29 22:34 lua 2010-09-29 22:34 i heard about that 2010-09-29 22:34 QT 2010-09-29 22:34 obviously ! :) 2010-09-29 22:34 SDL 2010-09-29 22:34 python 2010-09-29 22:34 python ? 2010-09-29 22:34 oh yeahhh 2010-09-29 22:34 thats for what i read things made 2010-09-29 22:35 gforth too 2010-09-29 22:35 I might just get a nanonote and mess around with python 2010-09-29 22:35 that would be a cool agenda 2010-09-29 22:35 :) 2010-09-29 22:35 much more useful than this huge hard-cover agenda I've got right now 2010-09-29 22:37 I wish I had C lessons in college, instead of java :( 2010-09-29 22:38 ben is a starting point 2010-09-29 22:38 for example in jlime you can install gcc easilly 2010-09-29 22:38 and vi(m) of course 2010-09-29 22:38 so you're done :) 2010-09-29 22:38 ah thats not all 2010-09-29 22:39 it would be an amazing linux experience too 2010-09-29 22:39 you have multi tasking 2010-09-29 22:39 thats cool 2010-09-29 22:39 so you can have a console in one side and vim in the other 2010-09-29 22:39 hah better keep your lines short, or font very small ! 2010-09-29 22:40 it must be hardcore coding on a such small keyboard,  no? 2010-09-29 22:40 thats up to you 2010-09-29 22:41 maden: http://www.jlime.com/wiki/documentation/user/nanonote/muffinman 2010-09-29 22:41 an the bottom there are some screen captures 2010-09-29 22:42 how exactly do you install a different OS on the nanonote? 2010-09-29 22:42 ah i just saw the installation instruction page 2010-09-29 22:42 uSD or NAND 2010-09-29 22:42 or both 2010-09-29 22:42 I guess once you get your ben it's openwrt installed? 2010-09-29 22:43 yup 2010-09-29 22:43 and you don'T want that? 2010-09-29 22:43 i like that 2010-09-29 22:43 i just want some things else like jlime 2010-09-29 22:43 ok I get your point 2010-09-29 22:44 openwrt is really stable 2010-09-29 22:44 and jlime have a bunch of software 2010-09-29 22:44 ok 2010-09-29 22:44 maden: how do you found the nanonote? 2010-09-29 22:45 how I found out about it? 2010-09-29 22:45 I'm not exactly sure, I heard about it ages ago. I think it was on slashdot 2010-09-29 22:46 ah we need more blog coverage... 2010-09-29 22:46 I don't own a blog 2010-09-29 22:46 I don't even read blogs 2010-09-29 22:46 I don't know any interesting blogs