2010-08-12 04:26 <qi-bot> [commit] kyak: kbd: install dumpkeys; bsd-games: change tetris keymap, fix primes http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/3883523
2010-08-12 04:33 <vegyraupe> wolfspraul: hey, u only need to confirm ownership now and the channel is all yours ;)
2010-08-12 04:39 <vegyraupe> here
2010-08-12 04:43 <wolfspraul> vegyraupe: hey there. thanks a lot!
2010-08-12 04:44 <qi-bot> [commit] kyak: centerim: added libcurl and libopenssl dependencies http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/80eb3a0
2010-08-12 04:49 <vegyraupe> plong
2010-08-12 04:49 <vegyraupe> ah
2010-08-12 04:49 <vegyraupe> I can talk again ;)
2010-08-12 04:49 <vegyraupe> wolfspraul: think it worked
2010-08-12 04:49 <wolfspraul> great
2010-08-12 04:50 <wolfspraul> wait let me try a total newbie via web interface. the 'vegyraupe' nick still has a lot of super powers!
2010-08-12 04:51 <wolfspraul> channel is still invite-only
2010-08-12 04:51 <wolfspraul> I try to remove the -i flag
2010-08-12 04:52 <wolfspraul> let's hope that -i means invite, I just guessed :-)
2010-08-12 04:52 <qwebirc86268> vegyraupe: hey there
2010-08-12 04:53 <wolfspraul> I think it works
2010-08-12 05:26 <kyak> /home/bas/build/openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/host/bin/gforth: cannot open image file /home/bas/build/openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/host/lib/gforth/0.7.0-20100807/gforth.fi in path .:/home/bas/build/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.32/gforth-0.7.0-20100807:. for reading
2010-08-12 05:26 <kyak> make[3]: *** [engine/prim-fast.i] Error 1
2010-08-12 05:26 <kyak> /home/bas/build/openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/host/bin/gforth: cannot open image file /home/bas/build/openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/host/lib/gforth/0.7.0-20100807/gforth.fi in path .:/home/bas/build/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.32/gforth-0.7.0-20100807:. for reading
2010-08-12 05:28 <kyak> hmm.. i wonder what's IRC name of David Kühling
2010-08-12 05:28 <kyak> i wanted to give it a try to gforth, but something is wrong
2010-08-12 06:12 <bartbes> yeah, I normally get an error with kernel.fb
2010-08-12 06:12 <bartbes> I would've loved it if it compiled
2010-08-12 08:25 <tuxbrain2> rafa:any advance on ogv playing?... since I see the Nanowar video in the Ben I'm aging for this :)
2010-08-12 08:26 <tuxbrain2> I have to convert it to V:mpg1 200Kbps-A:mpg2 64Kbps to play it smoothly
2010-08-12 08:27 <tuxbrain2> well I will keept arranging content :), lets go for the discography+lirycs+covers
2010-08-12 08:28 <rafa> working to release jlime beta-3, if somebody has suggestions/problems this is a perfect time to report :)..
2010-08-12 08:28 <rafa> tuxbrain2: hey :).. I would like to see those videos as well! .. I use "ffmpeg -i your_video_file -ac 1 -ar 22050 -s 320x240 output.mpg
2010-08-12 08:28 <rafa> " to convert.. which gives as output mpg1 video, mp2 audio. No sure the
2010-08-12 08:28 <rafa> Kbps
2010-08-12 08:29 <rafa> tuxbrain2: ogv: I need to think a bit more, perhaps I would like to modify the example source code of libtheora, but no sure how to face the ogv problem properly. thinking..
2010-08-12 08:29 <tuxbrain2> I use a 2 pass encoding with mencoder
2010-08-12 08:30 <rafa> the example was sexy for me because IIRC it uses SDL which I know very well and it should be simple to add new features .. like keyboard control for example.
2010-08-12 08:32 <tuxbrain2> "/usr/bin/mencoder"   -o "outputvideo.mpg"  -vf scale=320:-2 -of mpeg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video:vpass=1:vbitrate=200 -ofps 24000/1001 -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp2:abitrate=64 "originalvideo.avi" && "/usr/bin/mencoder" -o "outputvideo.mpg"   -vf scale=320:-2 -of mpeg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video:vpass=2:vbitrate=200 -ofps 24000/1001 -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp2:abitrate=64  "originalvideo.avi"
2010-08-12 08:33 <rafa> for beta-3 I already wrote into TODO the suggestions/complaints I have read :)
2010-08-12 08:33 <rafa> ah.. interesting mencoder commands.. let me save that.
2010-08-12 08:34 <tuxbrain2> a question , how control volume on Mplayer, Fn+0/9 does nothing
2010-08-12 08:34 <tuxbrain2> -2 on scale will mantain the aspect ratio of the original video :)
2010-08-12 08:37 <rafa> mplayer, numbers is the same for all the apps: SHIFT+redarrow+number
2010-08-12 08:38 <rafa> it is a X thing.. so if you need to press numbers anytime you will need to use that crappy 3keys set
2010-08-12 08:38 <tuxbrain2> ok :), you must indicate this in the help :)
2010-08-12 08:39 <rafa> and mplayer takes a while (few seconds) before to react.. no idea why.
2010-08-12 08:39 <tuxbrain2> ok I make it work but is some delay on OSD volumen and real volume variation
2010-08-12 08:39 <rafa> ah.. I was thinking that help had how to write numbers
2010-08-12 08:39 <tuxbrain2> and it was
2010-08-12 08:40 <tuxbrain2> but I was just actually playing :)
2010-08-12 08:41 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added QFN28 and QFN32 footprints for MCU and TXRX. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/87588be
2010-08-12 08:47 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added COPYING (GPL 2/LGPL 2.1/CC-BY-SA 3.0) and AUTHORS. Put pointer http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/22af202
2010-08-12 08:55 <tuxbrain2> rafa: where is the definiton on the desktop (bkground, icons... etc) I don't see it in /usr/share/matchbox
2010-08-12 09:00 <rafa> the wallpaper is /etc/muffinman-extras/wallpaper.png. Just replace that file if you want to change the wallpaper. The freedesktop.org spec says that *.desktop files are under /usr/share/applications/. Folders (*directory) under /usr/share/matchbox/vfolders/. Icons under /usr/share/pixmaps/
2010-08-12 09:01 <tuxbrain2> no other way to change the bg? there is no xml defining this?, just thinking to include some diferent bg easily changeable
2010-08-12 09:02 <tuxbrain2> whatever thanks for the info :)
2010-08-12 09:02 <rafa> For the wallpaper you will need to restart X (killall Xfbdev; /etc/muffinman-extras/startx)
2010-08-12 09:02 <rafa> the wallpaper is set via the startx script, sorry.. it runs : matchbox-desktop --bg img-centered:/etc/muffinman-extras/wallpaper.png &
2010-08-12 09:03 <tuxbrain2> ? on matchbox? no matchbox-remote?
2010-08-12 09:07 <rafa> well.. matchbox-remote is there.. perhaps we can think how to use that. Our idea is to add some application for settings, useful for 320x240, which we can use to set different kind of things, for example time/date, brightnees, networking, wallpapers, icons, etc.. We do not find a proper way nice for 320x240 yet.
2010-08-12 09:08 <tuxbrain2> we will don't worry :)
2010-08-12 09:12 <qi-bot> [commit] Andres Calderon: FB added to USB host http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/7a9ae94
2010-08-12 09:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added NX3225SA 16 MHz crystal (symbol and footprint) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/05b0105
2010-08-12 10:04 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: KiCad module build and xtal-4 cleanup. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/c0127b4
2010-08-12 10:04 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Copied antenna symbol from gta02-core. Updated footprint, and added http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/73d2b7d
2010-08-12 10:24 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: mv reflash to reflash/ http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/3424aa5
2010-08-12 10:24 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: mv binary files to sie_rootfs_files/ http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/de6f53a
2010-08-12 10:24 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: make create rootfs and reflash automatic a little http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/18e79c4
2010-08-12 11:29 <Textmode> huggles #qi-hardware 
2010-08-12 12:15 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Made first draft of schematics. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/0efc213
2010-08-12 14:24 <rafa> I finally have a workaround to use fn key
2010-08-12 14:24 <zear> :D
2010-08-12 14:25 <rafa> so we can avoid shift+ red arrow shit
2010-08-12 14:25 <rafa> :P
2010-08-12 14:25 <rafa> for numbers
2010-08-12 14:33 <Textmode> cool, what was the problem?
2010-08-12 14:33 <rafa> no.. I do not know. If you want I can explain you further
2010-08-12 14:34 <Textmode> I guess
2010-08-12 14:34 <rafa> Textmode: we use X. when you press a key you have four modes
2010-08-12 14:34 <Textmode> okay?
2010-08-12 14:34 <rafa> 1- key. For example, you press "n" key and X gets "n"
2010-08-12 14:35 <rafa> 2- 2nd mode: is shift + key. Ex: you press shift + n X sends current win "N"
2010-08-12 14:36 <rafa> 3- Mode_switch + key. Ex. you press red shift + n and X sends current win ">"
2010-08-12 14:36 <rafa> 4- shift+mode_switch + key. Ex. you press shift+redshift+n and X sends current win "1"
2010-08-12 14:37 <rafa> Now.. how can we tell X that when somebody press FN key we want X sends shift+mode_switch??
2010-08-12 14:38 <rafa> NO idea, and no idea if that is the proper way. We know that xmodmap let us to change every mode of the 4 modes for every key. And we use xmodmap to set the numbers as mode 4 for every key with a number written.
2010-08-12 14:38 <rafa> So... Textmode : which is the problem? :)
2010-08-12 14:38 <Textmode> sounds like a clusterfuck :)
2010-08-12 14:40 <Textmode> hack it so that it pretends fn is shift+redshift?
2010-08-12 14:41 <rafa> Textmode: what I just did was to write a simple C program of 20 lines. It wait for a key event from /dev/event1 (keyboard). When the event arrives, and if it is FN key, and if it is "unpressed" then the tiny program sends X "shift+mode_switch" event as "pressed". You release FN and that tiny program sends X the keyup event of shift and mode switch
2010-08-12 14:41 <rafa> with this behaviour we emulate the mode 4 with fn. So now, I press FN + 6 and the fucking X sends "6" to the current win
2010-08-12 14:41 <Textmode> huggles rafa 
2010-08-12 14:43 <rafa> Surely there is a fancy and proper solution. No idea yet. At least we have something. This tiny program does not use cpu neither ram.. so that is okey so far.
2010-08-12 14:44 <Textmode> well, you could probably patch X...but that would involve working with the X source code, so not a solution :P
2010-08-12 14:45 <rafa> Yep, we would not know yet if that is the proper way to do that.
2010-08-12 14:45 <rafa> to fix that
2010-08-12 14:46 <rafa> we need some advise from a Xorg guru perhaps
2010-08-12 14:46 <Textmode> probably, any lurking on IRC somewhere?
2010-08-12 14:46 <bartbes> ahem
2010-08-12 14:47 <bartbes> Xorg gurus?
2010-08-12 14:47 <bartbes> I have serious doubts those exist
2010-08-12 14:47 <bartbes> xorg is a magic box
2010-08-12 14:47 <rafa> :) maybe we could talk with ghosts about
2010-08-12 14:48 <Textmode> personally I'd suggest questioning the insane.
2010-08-12 14:48 <Textmode> in their madness, Xorg might make sense.
2010-08-12 14:51 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added modules for test points and solder pads. Some cleanup. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/28e2c75
2010-08-12 14:51 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added default footprints to schematics. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/91591ff
2010-08-12 14:51 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Updated the LED. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/245d87e
2010-08-12 15:07 <bartbes> I'm pretty sure the Xorg source exists out of one file, with one function main, with only one statement in it: do_black_magic_to_make_stuff_appear_on_the_screen_now();
2010-08-12 15:07 <bartbes> *consists of
2010-08-12 15:14 <wpwrak> bartbes: check the commit log. maybe there's a "now it works. my soul is thine, great cthulhu !"
2010-08-12 15:16 <bartbes> ;)
2010-08-12 15:37 <tuxbrain2> wpwrak: not is just repetition of "Ph´nglui mglw´nafh Cthulhu R´lyeh wgah´nagl fhtagn"
2010-08-12 15:56 <samgee> guys, I think my nanonote is some kind of dead. When I hook it up to my laptop the light on the side comes on, but when I press the power button nothing happens.
2010-08-12 15:56 <Textmode> samgee: You know you have to hold the powerbutton for about 3-7 seconds, right?
2010-08-12 15:57 <samgee> I can hold it until the cows come home, nothing happens
2010-08-12 15:57 <Textmode> reset button?
2010-08-12 15:57 <samgee> note that I haven't actually held it until some cows came home, though :)
2010-08-12 15:58 <samgee> ah right, there's a reset button
2010-08-12 15:58 <samgee> I just press a toothpick in there for a while?
2010-08-12 15:59 <Textmode> yeah.
2010-08-12 16:00 <samgee> held it in for 10 seconds, pressed power again, no response
2010-08-12 16:02 <Textmode> :/
2010-08-12 16:02 <samgee> I haven't touched the nanonote for a few weeks and I can't remember what I did with/to it last.
2010-08-12 16:04 <samgee> hm, if I unplug the usb cable, take out the battery and plug the cable back in then it makes a ticking sound
2010-08-12 16:05 <samgee> which just went from about 5Hz to around 2Hz
2010-08-12 16:05 <samgee> stopped now
2010-08-12 16:12 <Textmode> :/
2010-08-12 16:13 <Textmode> thats probably not a good sign.
2010-08-12 16:14 <samgee> that was my guess too :/
2010-08-12 16:16 <samgee> I haven't tried hardware usb boot yet, but I lost the little two pin thingy.
2010-08-12 16:18 <Textmode> anything conductive should do the job.
2010-08-12 16:18 <Textmode> like, a bit of tinfoil.
2010-08-12 16:22 <samgee> I pushed a paperclip against it and pressed power, nothing shows up in dmesg
2010-08-12 16:30 <samgee> looks up warranty and such on tuxbrain.com
2010-08-12 16:30 <samgee> d'oh, still spanish only
2010-08-12 17:13 <qi-bot> [commit] Andres Calderon: fixed placement http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/e678c0e
2010-08-12 18:18 <qi-bot> [commit] Andres Calderon: fix http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/ada00cd
2010-08-12 20:53 <qi-bot> [commit] Carlos Camargo: Adding ghdl simulation to plasma project http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/1254422
2010-08-12 21:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: usb.sch cleanup. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/090ea77
2010-08-12 21:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: First layout draft. (No GND areas, not quite following design rules.) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/8e6fef1
2010-08-12 22:22 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Added ground fill areas. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/6b72015
2010-08-12 22:32 <qi-bot> [commit] Andres Calderon: fix http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/e1ce2a9
2010-08-12 23:18 <kristianpaul> ohhhh !
2010-08-12 23:18 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.42888
2010-08-12 23:18 <kristianpaul> XBurst 32-bit CPU JZ4750 !!!
2010-08-12 23:20 <wolfspraul> could be something for Ron :-)
2010-08-12 23:21 <kristianpaul> Ron?
2010-08-12 23:21 <wolfspraul> just kidding
2010-08-12 23:21 <wolfspraul> what do you think about it? what's your point/question?
2010-08-12 23:22 <kristianpaul> well is cheap and the screen is intersting
2010-08-12 23:22 <kristianpaul> also i wonder how they put ethernet
2010-08-12 23:22 <kristianpaul> what os runs
2010-08-12 23:23 <kristianpaul> if i can flash it ?? :)
2010-08-12 23:23 <kristianpaul> whaa 3 usb hosts
2010-08-12 23:23 <wolfspraul> ok sorry can't help you with any of that :-)
2010-08-12 23:24 <kristianpaul> :p
2010-08-12 23:24 <kristianpaul> no wait
2010-08-12 23:24 <kristianpaul> well no
2010-08-12 23:24 <kristianpaul> nv
2010-08-12 23:24 <kristianpaul> just me again looking cheap things in this website
2010-08-12 23:30 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: well it's good you keep looking, even if you need to dig through a lot of crap, there is always hope...
2010-08-12 23:32 <kristianpaul> :/
2010-08-12 23:32 <kristianpaul> i have my Ben thats my hope ;)
2010-08-12 23:32 <wolfspraul> at least we know all its deficits by now :-)
2010-08-12 23:33 <kristianpaul> indeed
2010-08-12 23:35 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: is this nanonote predecessor  http://www.moresales.com.my/catalog/entry/uxwlkocd.shtml ?
2010-08-12 23:39 <wolfspraul> could be, there are several similar models
2010-08-12 23:39 <wolfspraul> the picture at the bottom is different, and the weight also
2010-08-12 23:40 <wolfspraul> there are variants of this device in Taiwan, Korea, some Arab countries, China, etc. sometimes even with different CPU though :-)
2010-08-12 23:40 <kristianpaul> wow
2010-08-12 23:40 <kristianpaul>  i see
2010-08-12 23:41 <kristianpaul> gn8 !
2010-08-12 23:41 <wolfspraul> 'night