2010-08-08 03:49 Hallo 2010-08-08 03:50 How many megabytes of free memory for user processes you can achieve in your nanonotes? 2010-08-08 04:02 with swap enabled, more than necessary 2010-08-08 04:03 by default, it occupies 12-15 Mb of RAM if i'm not mistaken 2010-08-08 04:04 the kernel you mean? 2010-08-08 04:04 With few programs running (ssh + bash + syslogd), I get 12MB used 2010-08-08 04:04 I don't have swap enabled 2010-08-08 04:05 I did not think of enabling swap... do many people enable some swap in the nanonote? 2010-08-08 04:06 i do, i don't know about others 2010-08-08 04:06 tuxbrain: can you paste an .asoundrc with softvol, sisplau? :) 2010-08-08 04:06 kyak: ah ok. swap on a file, on a mtd block device, on a sd card? 2010-08-08 04:06 on sd card 2010-08-08 04:07 the same partition i use for swap for jlime 2010-08-08 04:07 kind of handy 2010-08-08 04:07 I don't know jlime 2010-08-08 04:07 Does the nanonote have suspend-to-ram working? 2010-08-08 04:08 don't know.. do you need it? 2010-08-08 04:08 I don't know :) 2010-08-08 04:09 It's always something welcomed, isn't it? 2010-08-08 04:09 for swap, I thought, it would help not writing and writing it again at every boot 2010-08-08 04:34 hi all 2010-08-08 04:34 just bought a nanonote 2010-08-08 04:34 hi 2010-08-08 04:34 and dont know how to open application 2010-08-08 04:34 are you proficient on Linux? 2010-08-08 04:34 GNU systems in general 2010-08-08 04:35 i am now under linux 2010-08-08 04:35 ok 2010-08-08 04:35 i press enter key on the application,but system took me to setting 2010-08-08 04:36 I don't know what software does the nanoboot come with 2010-08-08 04:36 the nanonote 2010-08-08 04:36 How did you get software into it? You put it? 2010-08-08 04:36 jyf1987: press x 2010-08-08 04:36 viric: no its the default app 2010-08-08 04:37 I've never seen it 2010-08-08 04:37 jyf1987: read here http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Gmenu2x 2010-08-08 04:37 kyak: thank 2010-08-08 04:37 for key bindings 2010-08-08 04:37 ah, it's like the menu of a gp2x? 2010-08-08 04:37 kyak: so why they bind x for enter? 2010-08-08 04:38 yeah 2010-08-08 04:38 ahh 2010-08-08 04:38 its cool 2010-08-08 04:39 i learnt programming from a e-dictionary with a 6052 chip inside 2010-08-08 04:39 and for years i want to have a device like that, now i got it 2010-08-08 04:43 :) 2010-08-08 04:43 how come you could program that dictionary? 2010-08-08 04:43 wasn't it closed? 2010-08-08 04:43 so how can i reinstall other linux to it? 2010-08-08 04:43 i do not like the default os 2010-08-08 04:44 You can flash there an openwrt (the supported OS by qi-hardware I think) 2010-08-08 04:44 viric: its closed but it has a basic language for user 2010-08-08 04:44 or a Debian lenny 2010-08-08 04:44 if you ask google for "debian lenny nanonote" that should point you to the flashing procedure 2010-08-08 04:44 and some hacker use 6502 asm for it 2010-08-08 04:44 jyf1987: basically you have three choices: openwrt, debian, jlime 2010-08-08 04:44 lenny? 2010-08-08 04:44 jyf1987: it's a version of debian I think 2010-08-08 04:45 jyf1987: 'lenny' is the equivalent of a version number I imagine 2010-08-08 04:45 yesterday i just help my customer to change os from win server 2003 to debian 5 2010-08-08 04:45 viric: i know that :] 2010-08-08 04:45 ahh 2010-08-08 04:46 I'm partially in an attempt to port some other kind of Linux-based OS 2010-08-08 04:46 but I still have not achieved anything usable :) 2010-08-08 04:46 viric: how about tinycore ? 2010-08-08 04:46 I don't know that. 2010-08-08 04:46 Hasn't anyone ported Armstrong to it, thought? It looks like a good armstrong target 2010-08-08 04:46 viric: you can try it at www.tinycorelinuxx.com 2010-08-08 04:46 sorry itsÂ Â www.tinycorelinux.com 2010-08-08 04:47 viric: what's Armstrong? 2010-08-08 04:47 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ 2010-08-08 04:47 pity that there's no chance for layout changes for the next ben production run. a few "interesting" ios would be easy to recover 2010-08-08 04:47 a distribution for small systems 2010-08-08 04:48 argh. do no press cursor up and enter if not sure in which window you are :-( 2010-08-08 04:48 I've just noticed they say Angstrom where I say Armstrong :D 2010-08-08 04:49 :) 2010-08-08 04:49 yes, there are a lot of small footprint distributions our there 2010-08-08 04:49 maybe that works only on Arm systems. 2010-08-08 04:49 i don't see why any of them is worse of better than openwrt 2010-08-08 04:50 at the same time, openwrt works here and now 2010-08-08 04:50 kyak: i think what i dislike is not openwrt but the gmenu 2010-08-08 04:50 basically they are all linux kernel + busybox 2010-08-08 04:50 and my wireless router is also openwrt :] 2010-08-08 04:50 jyf1987: just disable it 2010-08-08 04:51 kyak: openwrt has its limitations 2010-08-08 04:51 kyak: which means some lack of flexibility 2010-08-08 04:51 how 2010-08-08 04:51 viric: what kidn of limitations? 2010-08-08 04:51 say you want a package compiled in another way 2010-08-08 04:51 jyf1987: /etc/init.d/start 2010-08-08 04:52 ok will check that 2010-08-08 04:52 viric: so..? feel free to compile it any way you want 2010-08-08 04:52 i want to try some other fb based desktop 2010-08-08 04:52 get the toolchain, edit the Makefile.. and so on 2010-08-08 04:53 kyak: that build system is not easy to install everywhere 2010-08-08 04:53 anyway, what you guys use nanonote for? 2010-08-08 04:53 kyak: additionally I like to use latest versions for the toolchain 2010-08-08 04:53 viric: what do you mean "everywhere"? can you build angstrom from under Windows? 2010-08-08 04:53 viric: that's the point, so i will choose script programming language for it 2010-08-08 04:54 kyak: what I run in the nanonote goes with the latest gcc and glibc. 4.5.1 and 2.11.2. 2010-08-08 04:54 kyak: I don't like Angstrom either! :) 2010-08-08 04:54 ah ok. i hope you really profit from the latest gcc :) 2010-08-08 04:55 kyak: I think it's easier to get attention from upstream, using the latest versions. I'd feel shame for reporting a bug on gcc 3.x ;) 2010-08-08 04:55 well, not for reporting, but for expecting a fix 2010-08-08 04:55 kyak: and I assume the latest versions work better. 2010-08-08 04:56 kyak: and of course I'm using a system *less painful* than openwrt... 2010-08-08 04:56 yeah.. feel free devoting your time to catching up with the latest versions 2010-08-08 04:56 kyak: it's not difficult at all 2010-08-08 04:56 viric: you're talking "secretly" 2010-08-08 04:56 kyak: using a capable-enough system. :) I use the nixpkgs cross build system 2010-08-08 04:56 what's "a system" you are using? 2010-08-08 04:57 This is what I run to get the latest kernel: nix-build -A linuxPackages_nanonote_jz_2_6_35.kernel.hostDrv nanonote.nix 2010-08-08 04:57 This is how I get 'rogue': nix-build -A rogue.hostDrv nanonote.nix 2010-08-08 04:57 Do you want to see the 'private' file "nanonote.nix" that defines the system? 2010-08-08 04:58 http://nano.pastebin.com/dfLAwVk7 2010-08-08 04:59 the rest of the files into play are from a normal upstream distribution of packages: nixpkgsÂ Â http://nixos.org/nixpkgs/Â Â Â Â (not specially coded for the nanonote) 2010-08-08 04:59 does nix-build run everywhere? 2010-08-08 04:59 kyak: even cygwin 2010-08-08 04:59 kyak: not native win32 though 2010-08-08 04:59 kyak: but the cross-build system works only on Linux by now (as far as I have tested. I don't know of anyone that tried to test it in other places) 2010-08-08 05:00 kyak: on 'Linux' means i686-linux, x86_64-linux, armv5tel-linux and mips64-linux, regardless of the distribution. 2010-08-08 05:00 so your main point was that openwrt is not flexible 2010-08-08 05:00 at the same time, you just use nix-build to build a pacakge 2010-08-08 05:01 you understand that you don't really need to modify anything 2010-08-08 05:01 I'm very used to the 'nix' way of describing how to build something, so I can use the same language for my desktop computers and for the nanonote. 2010-08-08 05:01 kyak: do you want to see the description on how to build rogue? 2010-08-08 05:01 so that's just your personal affection then 2010-08-08 05:02 i don't even know what rogue is :) 2010-08-08 05:02 A nethack style game :) 2010-08-08 05:02 i personally pretty much got used to the openwrt build system 2010-08-08 05:02 viric: Jlime is an OE based distro as Armstrong 2010-08-08 05:03 https://svn.nixos.org/websvn/nix/nixpkgs/trunk/pkgs/games/rogue/default.nixÂ Â this natively builds and cross builds 2010-08-08 05:03 kyak: Well, you understand the advantages of using *the same system* in your desktop and in the nanonote, right? :) 2010-08-08 05:03 no 2010-08-08 05:04 i don't really need it 2010-08-08 05:04 well, for two computers, you have one system *less* to learn. 2010-08-08 05:04 i don't have to "learn" anything 2010-08-08 05:04 you don't have to, with modern linux distros 2010-08-08 05:04 ah, it depends on what do you want to achieve 2010-08-08 05:04 they all have prety smart package managers] 2010-08-08 05:04 what do i want for my desktop? click and install, or "single command install" 2010-08-08 05:04 kyak: I don't agree. :) Most package managers work as a "list of tarballs to unpack with a list of dependencies on what tarballs to unpack" 2010-08-08 05:05 why would i want it to do anything with Ben? 2010-08-08 05:05 kyak: ah, well, I want something more than 'click and install' :) 2010-08-08 05:05 viric: so what? 2010-08-08 05:05 you want to fell "freedom", while you actually don't need it. you want to be "in control", while you actually don't need it 2010-08-08 05:06 kyak: some excerpts of what "most package managers" don't have: http://nixos.org/nix/ 2010-08-08 05:06 i'm pretty much satisfied with defaults my linux distro provides 2010-08-08 05:06 and so are 95 % of users 2010-08-08 05:06 kyak: no problem. I don't mind much about other users. I never came here telling what they have to use. :) 2010-08-08 05:07 But I choose open hardware so I can do whatever I want with it; and using the distro I like is one of the freedoms I like enjoying :) 2010-08-08 05:07 viric:regarding rogue on OpenWrt you have the original nethack(ascii) and powder(SDL) 2010-08-08 05:07 agreed 2010-08-08 05:07 tuxbrain: this means that rogue is not there ;) 2010-08-08 05:08 get it there 2010-08-08 05:08 beaware on it be resolution proof (320x240) 2010-08-08 05:08 feel "free" 2010-08-08 05:08 viric: you will be very much surprised how openwrt's Makefile is similar to that rogue nix recipy 2010-08-08 05:08 kyak: and the possibility to use 'nix' for either the nanonote, the sheevaplug, a full featured KDE desktop, cross-building or not cross-building, with advantages like multiple-versions in the system, rollback, atomic upgrades, ... makes it quite a worth system. 2010-08-08 05:09 I think is the main constrain in order to port grafical software to nanonote, not the distro it self 2010-08-08 05:09 the resolution 2010-08-08 05:10 viric: you should really make you yourself familiar with widely-accepted package managers. Most of them are not that stupid as you imagine 2010-08-08 05:10 kyak: I feel that they achieve very little 2010-08-08 05:11 kyak: I remember being at fosdem this year, and I went to the debian cross-building meeting. All they had in their list of "Future plans" was in our list of "what we already have" 2010-08-08 05:11 viric: anyway, have you got this NixOs running on Ben? 2010-08-08 05:11 And with far less effort than what the debian people are doing. 2010-08-08 05:11 kyak: all I'd need to do is write the init script. Cross-building the software works fine. And I've had the nanonote for a week. 2010-08-08 05:11 kyak: how can i get console on nanonote? there's 3 application default 2010-08-08 05:12 jyf1987: as you do it on every other linux, ctrl+alt+F1-F5 2010-08-08 05:12 kyak: I'm dediating very little time to this... I'm also involved in the Fuloong2F port, and I did the Sheevaplug port too. I'm sure I achieved that with far less effort than other distributions I know fo. 2010-08-08 05:12 of 2010-08-08 05:13 kyak: oh, forget it 2010-08-08 05:13 viric: have you ported anything to openwrt? 2010-08-08 05:13 kyak: i thought gmenu run on fb 2010-08-08 05:13 kyak: no. The openwrt build system is hard to install over nixpgks, I think 2010-08-08 05:14 i like tty more than gui ,:D 2010-08-08 05:14 that how you can be "sure"? it takes me half-hour to port an average application 2010-08-08 05:14 kyak: I have not tried learning OpenWRT because what I do in 'nix' has more far reaching positive consequences than what I could do for openwrt. 2010-08-08 05:15 than you can't compare 2010-08-08 05:15 you just use what you use 2010-08-08 05:15 what you used to :) 2010-08-08 05:15 kyak: as all is valid enough for my desktop system, servers, embedded systems, workstations, ... 2010-08-08 05:15 and this is what you dare to call "freedom" 2010-08-08 05:15 kyak: do you use OpenWRT in your laptop? 2010-08-08 05:15 no, why would I? 2010-08-08 05:16 kyak: learning openwrt gives me little advantages compared to contributing to nix. I use nix everywhere, while you use OpenWRT only on your routers and nanonotes (I guess) 2010-08-08 05:16 i'm very satisfied with my current distro (mandriva), which i've been using for several years so far 2010-08-08 05:16 kyak: Why would I spend effort in a system that will make my contributions work only on such a limited set? 2010-08-08 05:17 kyak: I already said that I don't care that much on "other users that did not choose nix" ;) 2010-08-08 05:17 i might be not "FSF geek", but who's using NixOS anyways? this is the time i've heard about it 2010-08-08 05:17 *first time 2010-08-08 05:17 kyak: it's the main GNU continuous build system: http://www.gnu.org/software/devel.html bottom of the page. For example. 2010-08-08 05:18 for example. 2010-08-08 05:18 ah, ok . pretty cool 2010-08-08 05:19 so.. when you actually have it running on Ben, let me know :) 2010-08-08 05:19 i'm willing to try it 2010-08-08 05:19 Well, you better try it on a more flexible computer first :) 2010-08-08 05:19 If you are used to mandriva, it will have a high step learning curve at the beginning 2010-08-08 05:20 And you can be soon disappointed 2010-08-08 05:20 wow, you are so full of stereotypes 2010-08-08 05:20 First you have to understand that you want what nix provides over the other package managers. That should give you the 'energy' to do the effort :) 2010-08-08 05:21 kyak: Yes ;) 2010-08-08 05:21 kyak: Feel free to break them :) 2010-08-08 05:21 can i have nix package manager on a top of any linux distro? 2010-08-08 05:21 Yes. 2010-08-08 05:21 or i need to switch to NixOS? 2010-08-08 05:21 No, you can use it on linux, BSDs, ... 2010-08-08 05:22 viric: ok, i might have a look 2010-08-08 05:22 You can ask for guidance on #nixos if you have questions. 2010-08-08 05:23 I know very few users of it, but I don't know of any who used it and then changed to another distro :) 2010-08-08 05:24 viric: i'm definitely not changing distro.. just because it makes no sense 2010-08-08 05:24 But I let you know that most users in NixOS come after being disappointed of other package managers, after falling into trouble with them. 2010-08-08 05:24 they are all the _same_ 2010-08-08 05:25 Mmm I suggest you to read on nixos. It's the only one I found 'different'. I came to it reading the papers: http://www.st.ewi.tudelft.nl/~dolstra/pubs/nixos-jfp-submitted.pdf for example 2010-08-08 05:25 Even if you don't switch, you may be interested on "how some people try to do something different" 2010-08-08 05:26 yep, could be an interesting reading :) 2010-08-08 05:27 kyak: after reading, I thought "I have to learn how to use this!" :) 2010-08-08 05:27 i just need to get in trouble with my package manager to really start doing something.. i say it not even being afraid to 2010-08-08 05:27 ..to put an evil eye on it 2010-08-08 05:29 :) 2010-08-08 05:30 in fact the person working on RPM5 has an eye on nix 2010-08-08 05:30 mandriva works rpm-based iirc 2010-08-08 05:31 oh, so i might just wait :) 2010-08-08 05:35 well, I can't say I've seen anything good from that RPM5. :) 2010-08-08 05:36 time will say. 2010-08-08 05:40 do you use only x86 PCs and the nanonote? or more platforms? 2010-08-08 07:31 viric: only x86 and the Ben 2010-08-08 10:08 xiangfu: there? 2010-08-08 10:09 kristianpaul: yes 2010-08-08 10:09 i'm looking for openwrt-xburst-uImage.bin after openwrt compiles with make 2010-08-08 10:09 i dont find it :/ 2010-08-08 10:09 ah got it 2010-08-08 10:09 nv 2010-08-08 10:09 sorry xiangfu :) 2010-08-08 10:10 is in bin/ 2010-08-08 10:10 kristianpaul:Â Â bin/xburst/ 2010-08-08 10:10 yeah 2010-08-08 10:11 kristianpaul: the name have changed to bin/xburst/openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-uImage.binÂ Â :) 2010-08-08 10:11 yes 2010-08-08 10:11 i noticed that too 2010-08-08 10:13 hmm the uImage is not used anymore? 2010-08-08 10:14 wait not the root image 2010-08-08 10:14 i'm follwing this http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Updating_Ben_with_usbboot 2010-08-08 10:14 not sure if is updated :/ 2010-08-08 10:15 ah is -ubi 2010-08-08 10:15 my fault 2010-08-08 10:18 I will update that page. :) 2010-08-08 10:20 i can 2010-08-08 10:20 ah ok :) 2010-08-08 10:20 go ahead ! 2010-08-08 10:40 oh new font is sweet :) 2010-08-08 11:20 hmm I've just tried to put a SD card 2010-08-08 11:21 dmesg shows the proper size and partition, but it goes immediately "retrying using single block read 2010-08-08 11:21 " 2010-08-08 11:21 "error -145 sending status command" 2010-08-08 11:21 "error -145 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x0" 2010-08-08 11:21 end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 2010-08-08 11:26 viric: does anything change if you remove it and reinsert it? 2010-08-08 11:28 larsc: it says the same 2010-08-08 11:28 maybe I'm putting it somehow wrong? 2010-08-08 11:28 not fast enough, ... ? 2010-08-08 11:29 it's 2.6.34 (openwrt patches) 2010-08-08 11:29 (openwrt config generic + xburst + qb_lb60 config, simply setting the sound as in-kernel) 2010-08-08 11:31 well either your card is broken or there is a bug 2010-08-08 11:32 hm 2010-08-08 11:32 it's a card I used in a gp2x 2010-08-08 11:32 I'll try in my notebook 2010-08-08 11:32 2GB microSD from Kingston 2010-08-08 11:32 my pc reads it perfectly 2010-08-08 11:33 so it is a bug. 2010-08-08 11:33 may I try 2.6.35? 2010-08-08 11:33 yes 2010-08-08 11:33 ok 2010-08-08 11:33 there has been some restructuring in the mmc driver for 2.6.35 2010-08-08 11:33 great 2010-08-08 11:34 10 minutes and I'll have it I hope 2010-08-08 11:43 larsc: btw I changed that keymap you gave me (pointing to gitorious) to get pageup/pagedown and scrollup/scrolldown 2010-08-08 11:44 IMO it had wrong keys, or I did not guess what were those keys mapped to pageup/pagedown 2010-08-08 11:48 larsc: hmm it looks like the 2.6.35 in openwrt does not have mmc support at all. Btw the keyboard patch works fine 2010-08-08 11:50 054-mmc.patch 2010-08-08 11:50 I mean maybe it's not in the config. I'll check 2010-08-08 11:51 hmmm it is 2010-08-08 11:51 dmesg says nothing, when I put the card 2010-08-08 11:51 JZ4740 SD/Multimedia Card Interface support, NAME: MMC_JZ4740, ALTS: Y/n/m/?, ANSWER: 2010-08-08 11:52 it's there. 2010-08-08 11:53 viric: is there a /sys/bus/platform/drivers/jz4740-mmc on your nanonote ? 2010-08-08 11:53 [Â Â 10.020000] jz4740-rtc jz4740-rtc: rtc core: registered jz4740-rtc as rtc0 2010-08-08 11:53 [Â Â 10.050000] jz4740-mmc jz4740-mmc.0: JZ SD/MMC card driver registered 2010-08-08 11:53 [Â Â 10.070000] No device for DAI jz4740-i2s 2010-08-08 11:53 [Â Â 10.110000] asoc: jz4740 <-> jz4740-i2s mapping ok 2010-08-08 11:53 it's there 2010-08-08 11:54 /sys/kernel/debug/mmc0 # cat ios 2010-08-08 11:54 clock:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 0 Hz 2010-08-08 11:54 vdd:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 0 (invalid) 2010-08-08 11:54 bus mode:Â Â Â Â Â Â 1 (open drain) 2010-08-08 11:54 chip select:Â Â Â Â 0 (don't care) 2010-08-08 11:54 power mode:Â Â Â Â 0 (off) 2010-08-08 11:54 bus width:Â Â Â Â Â Â 0 (1 bits) 2010-08-08 11:54 timing spec:Â Â Â Â 0 (legacy) 2010-08-08 11:56 Hmmmm I halted and booted, and it works now. I was in the system through a 'back reset button' after usbboot flashing the firmware. 2010-08-08 11:57 the card reading worked (it had the card at boot time). But when I took the card out, it did not notice I took it out. 2010-08-08 11:58 do you have the latest openwrt trunk? 2010-08-08 11:59 there was a bug with the card detection, but it was fixed a few days ago 2010-08-08 11:59 I have the latest, so I have your keyboard patch 2010-08-08 12:00 22513 2010-08-08 12:00 sorry 2010-08-08 12:00 22530 I mean 2010-08-08 12:00 could you paste your /sys/kernel/debug/gpio again? 2010-08-08 12:01 yse 2010-08-08 12:02 (btw, the resort of the card just threw my microsd 5 meters away 2010-08-08 12:02 ) 2010-08-08 12:02 I had to look for it in the grass :) 2010-08-08 12:04 http://nano.pastebin.com/3S1m5a06 2010-08-08 12:06 and /proc/interrupts 2010-08-08 12:07 http://nano.pastebin.com/3zY0Lw6A 2010-08-08 12:08 larsc: interrupt counter for the mmc detect increases only when I remove the card 2010-08-08 12:14 tuxbrain: did you try the microphone in the nanonote? I tried arecord... at what highest rate can I record? All I tried over 8000Hz looks like failing, with arecord. 2010-08-08 12:17 viric: its a bit strage that the card detect gpio pin is high both times. 2010-08-08 12:18 hm I agree. 2010-08-08 12:18 Maybe I broke something in the hw? Should I try 2.6.34 back? 2010-08-08 12:19 the gpio does not change at all 2010-08-08 12:19 when I put or remove the card 2010-08-08 12:19 But interrupts, there are. 2010-08-08 12:19 (only removing) 2010-08-08 12:19 so, nothing new. 2010-08-08 12:20 i'll try with my nanonote late to see if i can reporduce it 2010-08-08 12:20 great 2010-08-08 12:20 in the worst case I can boot with the card in 2010-08-08 12:20 It looks like it takes the state from boot time. 2010-08-08 12:20 when I boot without card, it stays as without card 2010-08-08 12:21 it's better than 2.6.34 :) 2010-08-08 13:16 [commit] Juan64Bits: Phy http://qi-hw.com/p/xue/5ce4404 2010-08-08 13:27 larsc: Can I tell by software to the kernel that the mmc card is out or in? 2010-08-08 13:36 viric: nope. but you can reload the the driver 2010-08-08 13:36 larsc: if it is not a module? 2010-08-08 13:36 even it is not a module 2010-08-08 13:37 how? 2010-08-08 13:37 I didn't know 2010-08-08 13:37 cd /sys/bus/platform/driver/jz4740-mmc/; echo jz4740-mmc > unbind; echo jz4740-mmc > bind 2010-08-08 13:39 # echo jz4740-mmc > unbind 2010-08-08 13:39 -bash: echo: write error: No such device 2010-08-08 13:40 ah, with .0 maybe 2010-08-08 13:42 right, it works fine. It detects the card when it's in, and does not detect anything when it is not 2010-08-08 13:42 (binding/unbinding) 2010-08-08 13:42 thank you! 2010-08-08 13:42 hello 2010-08-08 13:42 nice font in last openwrt xburst :) 2010-08-08 13:43 kristianpaul: mm is it different? 2010-08-08 13:43 mm? 2010-08-08 13:43 mmmm (thinking) is it different? 2010-08-08 13:43 ahh 2010-08-08 13:43 s/mm/hmm 2010-08-08 13:43 ;) 2010-08-08 13:43 hehe 2010-08-08 15:57 tuxbrain2, hey man, do you accept paypal payment for the wiz? We have a guy on our dingoo forums looking for a uk wiz seller that accepts paypal 2010-08-08 15:57 *ue 2010-08-08 15:58 *eu 2010-08-08 15:58 :P 2010-08-08 16:03 (whois zear 2010-08-08 16:03 :) 2010-08-08 16:03 it's me, i'm legit ;) 2010-08-08 16:03 I was interested why you could have mixed 'ue' and 'eu' looking at your hostname :) 2010-08-08 16:03 hehe 2010-08-08 16:03 (and guessing some land from it) 2010-08-08 16:04 yeah, we write it UE in Poland, though i usually don't make that mistake 2010-08-08 16:04 it's just that i typed "uk" first 2010-08-08 16:06 ok 2010-08-08 16:07 kristianpaul: ah, I forgot to ask; What is different in the font? 2010-08-08 16:12 viric: little but good 2010-08-08 16:12 just enough 2010-08-08 16:14 kristianpaul: hm is it 2.6.35? 2010-08-08 16:15 I wonder what font it is. 4x6? 8x8? 2010-08-08 16:17 I'll go for that 4x6; it will be better than the current 8x16 I have chosen :) 2010-08-08 16:25 uh bad idea. 2010-08-08 16:25 4x6 looks unreadable :) 2010-08-08 16:27 viric: 2.6.32.18 2010-08-08 16:27 ah 2010-08-08 16:27 can you know what font you use? 2010-08-08 16:28 opkg list said dejavu-fonts-ttf 2.23-1 2010-08-08 16:28 uh ttf? 2010-08-08 16:28 aren't you talking about the fbcon font? 2010-08-08 16:28 dont know 2010-08-08 16:28 ahh 2010-08-08 16:29 i justÂ Â compile last openwrt-xburst 2010-08-08 16:29 ok I'll check 2010-08-08 16:29 in the tree 2010-08-08 16:29 ok 2010-08-08 16:30 haha the commit there says: mirko: do not use font for target lb60 by default as it's unreadable 2010-08-08 16:30 which matches what I said a few lines ago :) 2010-08-08 16:31 :p 2010-08-08 16:31 But I don't see any special font set 2010-08-08 16:31 other than 8x16 2010-08-08 16:32 can you tell me the result of "echo $LINES $COLUMNS" ? 2010-08-08 16:32 in a shell in the screen 2010-08-08 16:32 sure 2010-08-08 16:32 wait 2010-08-08 16:33 maybe it even is not a font set by the kernel, but set by the init scripts? 2010-08-08 16:34 void 2010-08-08 16:35 I'll keep on with fbterm 2010-08-08 17:09