2010-08-06 01:17 <kyak> unclouded: hi! does sound in freedroid also work for you?
2010-08-06 01:30 <unclouded> kyak: haven't tried enabling swap to try it yet.  strange as I thought SDL was supposed to stream music so I don't know why it needs so much memory
2010-08-06 01:31 <unclouded> but all the other sounds work.  only the title music doesn't
2010-08-06 01:52 <kyak> hm, all the other sound didn't work for me before..
2010-08-06 01:52 <kyak> but ok, right now it seems to work.. just needs someone else to confirm :)
2010-08-06 01:53 <mth> SDL can stream audio, but it's up to the app to load the audio in small parts instead of loading the entire file into memory
2010-08-06 03:00 <unclouded> mth: so Mix_LoadMUS won't cut it then?
2010-08-06 03:01 <mth> that's from SDL_Mixer, not SDL itself; I'm not familiar with that lib
2010-08-06 03:01 <mth> "load" suggests it loads everything into memory, but check the API docs to be sure
2010-08-06 05:33 <bartbes> mth: well, it's missing some scripts, the program itself runs
2010-08-06 09:40 <bartbes> xiangfu: so why is scummvm broken?
2010-08-06 10:01 <qi-bot> [commit] Carlos Camargo: Fix some errors on silkscreen layer http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/6c92e79
2010-08-06 10:04 <xiangfu> bartbes: Hi. if there is some errors when compile. I will just mark it as BROKEN.
2010-08-06 10:04 <xiangfu> bartbes: now I am compiling it again.
2010-08-06 10:05 <bartbes> thanks!
2010-08-06 10:05 <xiangfu> bartbes: it give me "openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.30.1/usr/include/alsa/mixer.h:201: error: comma at end of enumerator list"
2010-08-06 10:05 <bartbes> but.. that'd seem to be an error in one of the libs?
2010-08-06 10:07 <bartbes> spotted the error in the header
2010-08-06 10:07 <bartbes> checks the alsa package
2010-08-06 10:08 <larsc> its a feature of newer gcc versions to complain about such "errors" in strict c99 mode
2010-08-06 10:08 <bartbes> ;)
2010-08-06 10:08 <bartbes> it's not a bug it's a feature
2010-08-06 10:08 <bartbes> as always
2010-08-06 10:09 <larsc> oh wait, it's c89
2010-08-06 10:09 <larsc> in c99 it is valid
2010-08-06 10:09 <bartbes> nice
2010-08-06 10:09 <bartbes> but then
2010-08-06 10:09 <larsc> maybe CFLAGS+=-std=gnu99 would work
2010-08-06 10:09 <bartbes> I guess it's a simple compile-time option
2010-08-06 10:09 <bartbes> yeah, that
2010-08-06 10:10 <xiangfu> larsc: I will try to add it and compile again :)
2010-08-06 10:12 <xiangfu> recompiling scummvm now.
2010-08-06 10:15 <larsc> hm... scummvm seems to be written in cpp
2010-08-06 10:15 <bartbes> oh that
2010-08-06 10:15 <bartbes> if you do find a solution
2010-08-06 10:15 <bartbes> please tell me
2010-08-06 10:16 <bartbes> because I needed --std=gnu99 in a c++ app as well (lua's lnum)
2010-08-06 10:17 <larsc> well, we could patch scummvms configure to not append -pedantic to its CXXFLAGS
2010-08-06 10:17 <larsc> hm, calling configure with --disable-Werror should work aswell
2010-08-06 10:22 <xiangfu> Running ScummVM configure...
2010-08-06 10:22 <xiangfu> error: unrecognised option: --disable-Werror
2010-08-06 10:26 <larsc> hm
2010-08-06 10:27 <larsc> ah, I see in c++ it's even an error without -Werror
2010-08-06 10:28 <larsc> so you have to patch configure to not append -pedantic
2010-08-06 10:30 <xiangfu> larsc: yes. just found that.
2010-08-06 10:30 <xiangfu> case $_host_os in
2010-08-06 10:30 <xiangfu> gamecube | psp | wii)
2010-08-06 10:30 <xiangfu>         ;;
2010-08-06 10:30 <xiangfu> *)
2010-08-06 10:30 <xiangfu>         CXXFLAGS="$CXXFLAGS -pedantic"
2010-08-06 11:01 <viric> HMm I'll ask again about the kernel - sorry, but I still did not understand
2010-08-06 11:01 <viric> THe openwrt-burst has patches over 2.6.32 to build the uImage
2010-08-06 11:01 <viric> But the kernel branches at qi-hardware don't have the Makefiles patched to build the uImage
2010-08-06 11:02 <viric> right?
2010-08-06 11:16 <larsc> correct
2010-08-06 11:26 <lekernel> http://events.ccc.de/2010/07/30/27c3-we-come-in-%20peace-call-for-participation/
2010-08-06 11:30 <kristianpaul> too sooon :(
2010-08-06 11:30 <lekernel> ?
2010-08-06 11:31 <kristianpaul> 27c3 is this december right?
2010-08-06 11:31 <larsc> yes
2010-08-06 11:31 <larsc> xxc3 is always 27-30 december
2010-08-06 11:32 <kristianpaul> yeah  too soon for to arrange VISA, tickets adn try to go to lekernel workshop :(
2010-08-06 11:32 <lekernel> huh?
2010-08-06 11:32 <kristianpaul> larsc: oh, i just discover this event last year :)
2010-08-06 11:32 <lekernel> how long does it take you to get a visa?
2010-08-06 11:32 <kristianpaul> in varies
2010-08-06 11:32 <kristianpaul> s/in/it
2010-08-06 11:33 <kristianpaul> 3 weeks orless
2010-08-06 11:33 <lekernel> lol
2010-08-06 11:33 <lekernel> it's in fucking december
2010-08-06 11:33 <lekernel> you have plenty of time for your visa
2010-08-06 11:33 <kristianpaul> well yes, i need the money first ;)
2010-08-06 11:34 <kristianpaul> also tickets, acomodation...
2010-08-06 13:01 <tuxbrain_mobile> hey what where the magic words to redirect pages on the wiki?
2010-08-06 13:02 <larsc> #redirect
2010-08-06 13:02 <larsc> #redirect [[other page]]
2010-08-06 13:16 <lekernel> kristianpaul, as in every travel
2010-08-06 13:16 <sdschulze> Hi -- are those USB gender changers you can buy only pieces of plugs and wire or do they really have two controllers inside?!
2010-08-06 13:17 <kristianpaul> lekernel: sure :)
2010-08-06 13:18 <kristianpaul> i just complain more that the ususal :)
2010-08-06 13:32 <sdschulze> In other words, shouldn't it be possible to "tunnel" USB host traffic over a USB device, which itself acts as a host towards the actual device (like the NIC)?
2010-08-06 13:32 <nebajoth> theory sounds good
2010-08-06 13:32 <nebajoth> but I doubt the gender changes have controllers inside
2010-08-06 13:33 <nebajoth> citation needed
2010-08-06 13:33 <sdschulze> They're actually too cheap for this. :)
2010-08-06 13:33 <sdschulze> And it would require Linux driver support.
2010-08-06 13:34 <sdschulze> If someone already wrote a kind of driver for this, we would be a step further.
2010-08-06 13:35 <sdschulze> imagines two AVRs, both acting as hosts and talking to each other via a UART or something.
2010-08-06 13:36 <sdschulze> Do you have an idea how the USB host controller is implemented in the development board?
2010-08-06 13:36 <sdschulze> Does the JZ47xx have it on-chip?
2010-08-06 13:39 <sdschulze> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/File:Jz4720diagram.jpg
2010-08-06 13:39 <sdschulze> Hm, there is a double arrow to the USB host.
2010-08-06 13:39 <sdschulze> Does this mean "outside" the chip?
2010-08-06 13:40 <viric> Hmmm what means that UBIFS says "scrubbed PEB 383 (LEB 0:381), data moved to PEB 1634
2010-08-06 13:40 <viric> Anything wrong with the flash?
2010-08-06 13:42 <viric> larsc: how can I, then, make the uImage for the kernel 2.6.34 in qi-hardware? Do I have to put the load addresses and all that by hand? What do you (kernel developers) use to build those, a not-public script?
2010-08-06 13:43 <viric> larsc: I don't find the mkimage parameters trivial :)
2010-08-06 13:43 <viric> larsc: and even less trivial those of zImage
2010-08-06 13:44 <qi-bot> [commit] Carlos Camargo: Adding SAKC logo http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/f22d66d
2010-08-06 13:45 <nebajoth> viric: you don't need to be alarmed by those messages
2010-08-06 13:45 <nebajoth> its wear-levelling
2010-08-06 13:45 <nebajoth> all flash does it
2010-08-06 13:45 <nebajoth> at least all flash with wear levelling
2010-08-06 13:48 <viric> nebajoth: ah. I don't even know what does that mean
2010-08-06 13:49 <nebajoth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling
2010-08-06 13:49 <viric> How much I have to care about writing into the nanonote?
2010-08-06 13:50 <nebajoth> none
2010-08-06 13:50 <viric> ah ok
2010-08-06 13:50 <viric> I'm doing some OS tests, and then I end up copying megabytes :)
2010-08-06 13:51 <viric> and as I'm having troubles with the first sector of the nand...
2010-08-06 14:12 <sdschulze> viric: Don't you build from OpenWRT?
2010-08-06 14:19 <sdschulze> nebajoth: Oh, OK, the USB stuff is inside the SoC.
2010-08-06 14:20 <larsc> viric: i'm using plain openwrt
2010-08-06 14:22 <sdschulze> There are ways to tunnel USB over PCI, why wouldn't it be possible to tunnel USB over USB?
2010-08-06 14:22 <sdschulze> I'd be almost surprised if that hadn't been done already.
2010-08-06 14:22 <sdschulze> [Any kernel hackers here?]
2010-08-06 14:26 <viric> sdschulze: no
2010-08-06 14:26 <viric> larsc: then you apply those patches in openwrt for 2.6.32 to your tree of 2.6.34?
2010-08-06 14:27 <larsc> viric: no. in openwrt are patches for 2.6.35
2010-08-06 14:32 <viric> ah
2010-08-06 14:32 <viric> m
2010-08-06 14:32 <viric> those patches are to be put over the qi-hardware 2.6.35 branch, or over the mainline 2.6.35?
2010-08-06 14:33 <viric> target/linux/generic-2.6 contains patches until 2.6.34 I think
2010-08-06 14:36 <larsc> i'm talking about https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk
2010-08-06 14:40 <viric> hm I was looking at the openwrt git repository in qi-hardware. Is that obsolete?
2010-08-06 14:40 <larsc> nope
2010-08-06 14:40 <larsc> its stable
2010-08-06 14:40 <larsc> more or less
2010-08-06 14:40 <viric> ah, the development goes in the openwrt trunk?
2010-08-06 14:40 <larsc> yes
2010-08-06 14:40 <viric> aaaaah
2010-08-06 14:40 <viric> Sorry for asking that much. I don't know how to get that information other than asking :)
2010-08-06 14:41 <viric> thank you
2010-08-06 14:41 <viric> is there anything in that stable git repository that is not in the openwrt trunk?
2010-08-06 14:41 <viric> and does the openwrt trunk even have patches for mplayer, for example?
2010-08-06 14:42 <larsc> there might be some qi specific patches in there.
2010-08-06 14:42 <larsc> but i'm not sure
2010-08-06 14:43 <larsc> qi related packages are in the openwrt-packages repo at projects.qi-hardware
2010-08-06 14:44 <viric> ok
2010-08-06 14:44 <viric> they are not in openwrt trunk then
2010-08-06 14:44 <larsc> correct
2010-08-06 14:44 <viric> nice
2010-08-06 14:45 <viric> there I don't see anything about mplayer
2010-08-06 14:46 <viric> wasn't there some code for the SIMD instructions of the xburst?
2010-08-06 14:46 <viric> or that is already in mplayer mailine?
2010-08-06 15:32 <sdschulze> re
2010-08-06 15:32 <sdschulze> My shitty Taiwanese computer had a hard lock-up...
2010-08-06 15:35 <sdschulze> Actually, building a host that can handle two RNDIS devices shouldn't be *too* hard.
2010-08-06 15:55 <sdschulze> Would there be demand? :)
2010-08-06 15:56 <nebajoth> yup
2010-08-06 15:56 <nebajoth> as long as it was cheap
2010-08-06 15:56 <nebajoth> :P
2010-08-06 15:58 <sdschulze> Hehe
2010-08-06 15:59 <sdschulze> I just thought that the appearance of the Ya would make it superfluous immediatly.
2010-08-06 16:00 <sdschulze> Hm, strange, my computer says the NanoNote is RNDIS, but itself, it claims to be ECM.
2010-08-06 16:03 <sdschulze> For owners of the devboard, it is already superfluous.
2010-08-06 16:04 <sdschulze> Hm, couldn't you even get the USB 1.1 out of the NanoNote with a tiny bit of hardware hacking?
2010-08-06 16:16 <sdschulze> ???
2010-08-06 16:17 <sdschulze> Pins 106 and 107 are totally unconnected in the NanoNote.
2010-08-06 16:17 <sdschulze> In the devboard, they go out quite directly from the case.
2010-08-06 16:17 <sdschulze> The only thing added is a 5V voltage source.
2010-08-06 16:18 <sdschulze> Are there *any* objections to using those pins?
2010-08-06 16:37 <SiENcE> hi
2010-08-06 17:04 <wpwrak> tuxbrain: 8 counterweights are already cast. only the paint is missing.
2010-08-06 17:04 <wpwrak> rafa: diego is now working on the others :)
2010-08-06 18:21 <rafa> wpwrak: cool!.. he could add some art to the solderings perhaps ;)
2010-08-06 18:22 <wpwrak> rafa: at them moment, he's adding artful air pockets :)
2010-08-06 18:23 <rafa> wpwrak: visitors here.. really busy days :P
2010-08-06 18:24 <tuxbrain> sdschulze: Bas has answered you on the list, believe him. No way
2010-08-06 18:26 <wpwrak> tuxbrain: naw, let him try. more sales and maybe a technological breakthrough :)
2010-08-06 18:26 <tuxbrain> wpwrak: then you have 80% of a beer earned
2010-08-06 18:27 <tuxbrain> wpwrak: We are big enough to hire, I want you as my costumer relationship manager :P
2010-08-06 18:27 <wpwrak> (beer) we're at 10 now. i'm making a new cast, though. the old one is looking a bit charred. had already more than 20 cycles.
2010-08-06 18:28 <wpwrak> tuxbrain: what was previously known as the customers complaint department ? :)
2010-08-06 18:28 <tuxbrain> yeah but complaint doesn't sound cool
2010-08-06 18:28 <bartbes> so now your customers don't complain, they relate to you
2010-08-06 18:28 <bartbes> much better
2010-08-06 18:29 <wpwrak> they re-late to you and and you can be-rate them back :)
2010-08-06 18:31 <tuxbrain> costumer care, post-sales, hotline, costumer assistance, support.... euphemistic names for the old well know complaint department
2010-08-06 18:31 <bartbes> costumer care
2010-08-06 18:31 <bartbes> heh
2010-08-06 18:31 <bartbes> "Take care of the customers"
2010-08-06 18:32 <bartbes> gets knife
2010-08-06 18:32 <bartbes> or ehm
2010-08-06 18:32 <bartbes> "Day care was closed" "Are you a customer?" "Yes" "Then come in!"
2010-08-06 18:34 <tuxbrain> hey I forget the FOSS euphemistic one: Track list :P
2010-08-06 18:46 <tuxbrain> larsc: or of course any one else.
2010-08-06 18:47 <tuxbrain> where I can download the 2.6.36 kernel with our code there in a tarball
2010-08-06 18:47 <wpwrak> larsc: do you have an AVT2 ?
2010-08-06 18:48 <tuxbrain> I have no intentions to compile (yet) but I want to do some good header picture for the post announcing it
2010-08-06 18:49 <larsc> tuxbrain: i don't think there is a tarbal yet
2010-08-06 18:49 <larsc> wpwrak: yes
2010-08-06 18:50 <tuxbrain> any way to achive the source code without the git control files?
2010-08-06 18:51 <wpwrak> larsc: USB host is available then, i guess ? (haven't tried anything myself yet. just wondering, seeing all those cries for help on the list)
2010-08-06 18:51 <larsc> wpwrak: yes it does work
2010-08-06 18:52 <wpwrak> larsc: kewl. thanks !
2010-08-06 18:53 <larsc> tuxbrain: rm them ;)
2010-08-06 18:54 <tuxbrain> touche!, can you giveme give me the git order to checkout it?
2010-08-06 18:56 <larsc> git clone it://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
2010-08-06 18:56 <trebuchet> my mom is calling my cat sexy
2010-08-06 18:56 <trebuchet> wrong channel
2010-08-06 18:56 <larsc> tuxbrain: `make tarbz2-pkg` builds an archive for the kernel source
2010-08-06 18:56 <larsc> tuxbrain: see `make help`
2010-08-06 18:57 <tuxbrain> thanks !
2010-08-06 18:57 <tuxbrain> once I make the image I will ask you for help to localize our piece of code on it :)
2010-08-06 18:57 <wpwrak> larsc: so absolutely everything is upstream now ?
2010-08-06 19:00 <larsc> wpwrak: no. i did not submit the usb gadget driver and the driver for the lcm, because they need some more cleanup
2010-08-06 19:01 <larsc> wpwrak: and not all trees have been merged by linus. sound for example is still missing
2010-08-06 19:04 <tuxbrain> 20%=225Mb so 100% arround 1.1Gb, wow
2010-08-06 19:06 <tuxbrain> ehem that why you have to wait until the end "only" 377.43 MiB of c code...
2010-08-06 19:10 <zednano> ircing from nano in bed with wifi
2010-08-06 19:12 <tuxbrain> zednano: :) go to sleep and stop doing the freak also in bed dude :)
2010-08-06 19:12 <tuxbrain> envy zednano
2010-08-06 19:14 <zednano> tuxbrain trying to justify spending crazy amount on the wifi card
2010-08-06 19:14 <zednano> works well tho for irc
2010-08-06 19:14 <tuxbrain> hehehe sleeping with it can be way yes....
2010-08-06 19:18 <zednano> grins at tuxbrain
2010-08-06 19:34 <wpwrak> larsc: pretty close then. nice.
2010-08-06 19:37 <tuxbrain> FYI, I'm trying to make a kernel diagram of the 2.6.36 kernel like this one http://fcgp.sourceforge.net/images/lgp-total.png, and then localize our piece of code on it :)
2010-08-06 19:37 <tuxbrain> the script seems to run fine , let's see the results
2010-08-06 19:40 <tuxbrain> but I think I will go to sleep and see results tomorow good night
2010-08-06 19:41 <wpwrak> tuxbrain_zzz: btw, any color preferences for the counterweight ? default color will be black
2010-08-06 19:41 <tuxbrain_zzz> yes I think black is the right choise
2010-08-06 19:41 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Improved the mold for better yield. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-counterweight/e910ea0
2010-08-06 22:29 <wolfspraul> andres_calderon: hey Andres :-)
2010-08-06 22:30 <andres_calderon> hey Wolfgang
2010-08-06 22:30 <wolfspraul> werner is wpwrak
2010-08-06 22:30 <wolfspraul> he lives in Buenos Aires and speaks Spanish :-)
2010-08-06 22:32 <andres_calderon> nice, Werner is  online? is OK to speak Spanish in this channel?
2010-08-06 22:33 <wolfspraul> of course why not in Spanish?
2010-08-06 22:33 <wolfspraul> I don't know whether he is online
2010-08-06 22:33 <wolfspraul> but he will definitely see it later
2010-08-06 22:34 <andres_calderon> for consistency in the historical record...
2010-08-06 22:35 <andres_calderon> We need a "Lars" for LM32 :)
2010-08-06 22:36 <wpwrak> he's online and speaks spanish so-so but writes it really poorly :)
2010-08-06 22:36 <wolfspraul> ok maybe I oversell you :-)
2010-08-06 22:37 <andres_calderon> I think I can help to support  the kernel. But I prefer to work in HDL.
2010-08-06 22:37 <wolfspraul> wpwrak: Andres is the guy behind the Xue camera, a camera around the Milkymist SoC
2010-08-06 22:37 <wolfspraul> he tried to do it entirely in KiCad (schematics + layout)
2010-08-06 22:37 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: btw, you'll like this: ti also have a 2.45 GHz compliance-with-regulations document ;-)
2010-08-06 22:37 <andres_calderon> hi Werner, como está, mi ingles es bastante malo..
2010-08-06 22:37 <wpwrak> andres_calderon: and, how did things go with kicad ?
2010-08-06 22:39 <roh> i wonder whats the documentation/foss situation with the wilink wifi from ti (used in n900 and so)
2010-08-06 22:39 <wpwrak> andres_calderon: quizas la solucion seria que vos escribis en castellano y yo en ingles :)
2010-08-06 22:39 <wpwrak> roh: "this product is for high-volume customers [...]", something in that sense
2010-08-06 22:39 <wpwrak> roh: or, "go away, plebs !" :)
2010-08-06 22:40 <andres_calderon> I am just learning to use kicad. I am a "Orcad man"
2010-08-06 22:40 <andres_calderon> Bien Werner
2010-08-06 22:41 <wpwrak> andres_calderon: kicad still misses lots of things, but some people have succeeded to do complex projects with it
2010-08-06 22:42 <wpwrak> s/misses/lacks/
2010-08-06 22:42 <roh> wpwrak i see.. too bad. their drivers seem to work properly ;)
2010-08-06 22:42 <roh> WL1251
2010-08-06 22:42 <andres_calderon> wpwrak el hecho de que todo es un archivo de texto es muy útil, eso me gusta..
2010-08-06 22:42 <wpwrak> andres_calderon: yes ! and my scripts ! :)
2010-08-06 22:43 <andres_calderon> wpwrak hay uno monton de problemas de usabilidad.... pero poder usar script da mucho poder
2010-08-06 22:45 <andres_calderon> wpwrak solo he escrito un par de scripts en python, ahora puedo generar componentes a partir de archivos de Xilinx y de archivos de simulación IBIS
2010-08-06 22:49 <andres_calderon> wpwrak i am using the fped, is very interesting.
2010-08-06 23:09 <wpwrak> sorry ... a bit of an interruption ... visitor ...
2010-08-06 23:54 <wolfspraul> emeb|mac: hey, early rise? :-)
2010-08-06 23:55 <wolfspraul> it's a good coincidence, Andres Calderon the founder of the Xue project is also here - andres_calderon
2010-08-06 23:55 <andres_calderon> wpwrak Do You know the Topological Autorouter project for PCB Geda?     http://anthonix.resnet.scms.waikato.ac.nz/toporouter/
2010-08-06 23:56 <andres_calderon> hi emeb|mac