2010-08-01 04:12 hey can I get commit to the openwrt-packages project?  I've got a port of Freedroid to upload 2010-08-01 04:16 unclouded: sure you can! 2010-08-01 04:16 do you have an account on projects? 2010-08-01 04:16 yes, by the same name: unclouded 2010-08-01 04:16 if you commit something, I can also test the new commitlog scripts :-) 2010-08-01 04:17 ok, maybe I should commit it one file at a time then ;-) 2010-08-01 04:18 unclouded: thanks for asking, I added you as member to openwrt-xburst and openwrt-packages 2010-08-01 04:18 you need to upload your ssh public key, then it should work... 2010-08-01 04:18 I think I remember uploading my key.  I must have if Ive committed to other projects, right? 2010-08-01 04:19 hmm 2010-08-01 04:19 not sure whether it is shared across all projects or not 2010-08-01 04:19 maybe 2010-08-01 04:20 just try, you should not be able to easily break something on the server :- 2010-08-01 04:20 :-) 2010-08-01 04:20 *crack* 2010-08-01 04:20 that must have been the heads of the second mirrored hdd 2010-08-01 04:21 probably 2010-08-01 04:22 thanks for the access!  I'll say so just before I commit 2010-08-01 04:23 zear: hi zear! 2010-08-01 04:23 hey wolfspraul 2010-08-01 04:23 I was playing with eggdrop a bit, improving a few things 2010-08-01 04:23 ah, so you can finally remove my nick from logging? :D 2010-08-01 04:23 one sec 2010-08-01 04:24 back then you told me you didn't like that the IP would get logged 2010-08-01 04:24 ah, yes 2010-08-01 04:24 which I can kind of understand, plus it doesn't provide any value to others 2010-08-01 04:24 yes, because they can always do /who to get his whereabouts anyway 2010-08-01 04:24 so since I reviewed this eggdrop monster a bit more now, I realized the log flags were 'jpk' 2010-08-01 04:24 j = joins, parts, etc. k = kicks, bans, etc. 2010-08-01 04:25 so actually I think all we need is 'p' 2010-08-01 04:25 the public messages 2010-08-01 04:25 so for now, I changed the log settings to 'p', which in my theory means the IP addresses won't get logged anymore, because the join and part messages are not logged 2010-08-01 04:25 that's a small step forward I think 2010-08-01 04:25 :-) 2010-08-01 04:26 now I am wondering whether I should go over the entire archives and strip out all such 'j' and 'k' messages as well? 2010-08-01 04:26 what value does it have that we remember who and when people joined and left? 2010-08-01 04:26 I think all we care about is the actual content of the messages, i.e. actual public messages 2010-08-01 04:26 zear: what do you think? 2010-08-01 04:27 i think stripping the actual logs from joins and kicks is a good idea 2010-08-01 04:27 though google had enough time to cache them already ;) 2010-08-01 04:27 one by one 2010-08-01 04:28 yes I know but it's never too late to improve :-) 2010-08-01 04:28 i agree 2010-08-01 04:28 so first of all - you agree that going forward, removing the 'j' and 'k' log types does not remove any value, right? 2010-08-01 04:28 I mean I don't see any value... 2010-08-01 04:28 yes, there's no point logging them 2010-08-01 04:28 ok, next question is whether I should also retro-actively strip them from the archives 2010-08-01 04:29 I lean towards doing that, but I'm always careful about censoring/removing data... 2010-08-01 04:29 but in this case, same as for future logs, I don't see the value 2010-08-01 04:29 it's just junk! 2010-08-01 04:29 and lots of IP addresses as you said correctly 2010-08-01 04:29 why not, they are all in a similar form:  nick(~nick@ip) has joined #channel 2010-08-01 04:29 shall we purge the junk? 2010-08-01 04:29 should be rather easy to set up a script removing these lines 2010-08-01 04:29 yes sure, it's not a technical problem 2010-08-01 04:30 I just don't want to go through the archives purge stuff unilaterally 2010-08-01 04:30 wolfspraul, make a copy 2010-08-01 04:30 I feel this is a community server and I respect that the data is owned by everybody... 2010-08-01 04:30 in case people want them back 2010-08-01 04:30 ok, easy 2010-08-01 04:30 that would be a very exotic wish anyway, I really cannot imagine what the value of these log lines could be 2010-08-01 04:31 already, so after the copy we purge them? 2010-08-01 04:31 [commit] kyak: backgammon of bsd-games http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/48e547c 2010-08-01 04:31 [commit] kyak: backgammon of bsd-games http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d696302 2010-08-01 04:31 the purpose of public logs should be easy access to precious informations about the nanonote, and not easy access to personal data ;) 2010-08-01 04:31 totally agree with you 2010-08-01 04:31 so i say purge the already existing logs 2010-08-01 04:32 that's why I was happy today to realize that we can improve something 2010-08-01 04:32 alright, will do. backup copy first. 2010-08-01 04:33 I agree, it's just so you can look up what was said 2010-08-01 04:34 say, wolfspraul tells you how to do something, you forget, you want to look it 2010-08-01 04:34 up 2010-08-01 04:34 then you don't need join/quit messages 2010-08-01 04:34 if you are however spying on people, then you're just plain weird anyway 2010-08-01 04:35 wolfspraul: beaten to a commit by kyak.  do you want to make any changes to the commit scripts before the next commit? 2010-08-01 04:35 yes agree, the join/part messages and IP addresses do not belong in the archives and create no value 2010-08-01 04:35 unclouded: no no :-) 2010-08-01 04:35 bartbes, it's not about you spying on people, it's about google caching everything 2010-08-01 04:35 just commit 2010-08-01 04:36 bartbes, it's just in case someone ineeds choose to look up some information about you ;) 2010-08-01 04:36 it creates no value, it has to go 2010-08-01 04:36 that simple 2010-08-01 04:36 I was merely stating the use cases of the logs 2010-08-01 04:36 saying thatthe join/quit messages are useless 2010-08-01 04:37 if my mind would work quicker I would have done this right the day when I installed eggdrop, but that thing has so many config options and my brain is so slow nowadays, it takes some time... 2010-08-01 04:37 zear: in hindsight, thanks for alerting me about the IP problem, I might not have noticed... 2010-08-01 04:37 ;) 2010-08-01 04:38 [commit] Neil Stockbridge: Merge branch 'master' of git@projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-packages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ad78aa7 2010-08-01 04:38 [commit] Neil Stockbridge: initial port of Freedroid http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/88b28ae 2010-08-01 04:39 wolfspraul: when it says "error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1", is that something up with your scripts? 2010-08-01 04:41 heh 2010-08-01 04:41 not quite fixed then 2010-08-01 04:42 hmm 2010-08-01 04:42 guess so :-) 2010-08-01 04:42 unclouded: when did you get that error? 2010-08-01 04:42 you did a 'git push' from the command line? 2010-08-01 04:43 yup 2010-08-01 04:43 should I not have? 2010-08-01 04:43 sure why not 2010-08-01 04:43 strange I tested this carefully, didn't see anything 2010-08-01 04:43 I'm not all that familiar with git.  I use svn and mercurial mostly 2010-08-01 04:43 unclouded: it's just a minor annoyance, the git push went through just fine 2010-08-01 04:43 unclouded: you did nothing wrong, don't worry 2010-08-01 04:44 just a bit surprised why I didn't see it and how to reproduce it... should be easy to fix 2010-08-01 04:45 RE: the Freedroid port: the title music doesn't work but the rest seems to.  If you liked Paradroid on the C64 then this game will bring back memories 2010-08-01 04:46 wolfspraul: I had to pull and merge before pushing.  I don't know if that would affect anything 2010-08-01 04:50 zear: hmm, I think actions and nick changes are still important, need to check whether they are still logged... 2010-08-01 04:51 testing logging 2010-08-01 04:51 agrees 2010-08-01 04:52 I was wondering. I can agree nicks are important, but what if the logs would color the logs depending on who said what 2010-08-01 04:52 each nick currently on channel would be assigned a different color 2010-08-01 04:53 that way the logs would be anonymous, but one could still distinguish different persons in discussions 2010-08-01 04:53 but why the anonimity? 2010-08-01 04:53 the nick change is not logged anymore, the actions are 2010-08-01 04:53 I think we can get rid of nick changes too 2010-08-01 04:53 most of the time it's just things like 2010-08-01 04:53 in my example, if I wanted to know what wolfspraul said, I need to know it's him 2010-08-01 04:54 bartbes, because say something inappropriate and it will be saved for ever by google ;) 2010-08-01 04:54 then don't say anything inappropriate 2010-08-01 04:54 (using this name) 2010-08-01 04:54 yea, but i use this name on other channel in freenode 2010-08-01 04:54 bartbes: yeah but irc is not attempting any real authentication 2010-08-01 04:54 i'd have to use a different irc client to have a different nick just for this channel 2010-08-01 04:54 does anybody feel 'nick changes' need to be logged? 2010-08-01 04:55 I know 2010-08-01 04:55 cause they are not with the latest settings... 2010-08-01 04:55 making the solution simple 2010-08-01 04:55 I can live without them 2010-08-01 04:55 do not say inappropriate things 2010-08-01 04:55 actions are logged 2010-08-01 04:56 bartbes, you don't know what will be inappropriate after years 2010-08-01 04:57 maybe you will say something like "I hate microsoft products" and in 5 years you will be trying to get a job at redmond 2010-08-01 04:57 and then they will google your nick and find out about your hatred towards ms ;) 2010-08-01 04:58 bartbes: heh 2010-08-01 04:58 oops 2010-08-01 04:58 did I just direct that at myself? 2010-08-01 04:58 zear: heh, I have that 2010-08-01 04:58 but think about this: http://www.qdb.us/302429 2010-08-01 04:58 zear: btw, I'm pretty sure they'll 'bing' my nick 2010-08-01 04:59 haha 2010-08-01 04:59 i remember reading somewhere that most of ms employees use google 2010-08-01 04:59 their programmers also work on linux machines 2010-08-01 05:00 gentlemen 2010-08-01 05:00 logging without 'nick changes' - OK? 2010-08-01 05:00 yeah sure, why not 2010-08-01 05:00 I see no value in tracking nick changes, most of them are just _away changes 2010-08-01 05:01 and nicknames on irc are freely chosen and have little/zero authentication value anyway 2010-08-01 05:01 I have nick enforcement 2010-08-01 05:01 and _away changes can give the informations about hours when you start/end your work, or when you're not at home 2010-08-01 05:01 ok, unless someone says they want nick changes in the logs, they are gone 2010-08-01 05:02 zear: yes, but we can also think about the positive value. Is there any positive value? if no, why log. it's just junk. 2010-08-01 05:02 most of what I see is people changing their nick to _away and back later. 2010-08-01 05:02 no need to log that 2010-08-01 05:02 zear: somehow I think you don't even need to switch the paranoia on 2010-08-01 05:03 ;P 2010-08-01 05:03 wolfspraul: btw, what would you think of me checking the scan stuff into a git on projects.qi-hw ? (tomorrow or so) not sure how git likes large binaries. i think it should be fine, but i've never tried it. size is around 90 MB now, but growing. should be ~500 MB in the end. 2010-08-01 05:03 i'm not paranoic, it is a fact that google caches it 2010-08-01 05:03 and i don't want to give informations about myself so easily 2010-08-01 05:04 it's not that i'm scared about being spied by someone, it's just that i don't want to give all that information 2010-08-01 05:04 zear: if you want to hide your comings and goings, just don't /n *away ? :) 2010-08-01 05:04 wpwrak: yeah totally, git is good let's try 2010-08-01 05:04 i never do ;) 2010-08-01 05:04 wpwrak, and that about _away was a joke anyway ;P 2010-08-01 05:05 zear: your point about the IP addresses being logged was very good, I'm seriously happy you brought it up 2010-08-01 05:05 someone could do all sorts of profiling, and I think none of use would want that 2010-08-01 05:06 wspraul: kewl. i might even be able to link directly to the files, avoiding the copies on my server (with an ancient and small disk) 2010-08-01 05:06 there is enough data already everywhere, no need to create more and more 2010-08-01 05:06 wpwrak: should we create a separate project? 2010-08-01 05:06 hmm, what are you guys doing? 2010-08-01 05:06 wolfspraul: (project) yes, i think i should do that 2010-08-01 05:07 wolfspraul: but first, i have to get a bunch of new and (hopefully) improved idbgs to work ... 2010-08-01 05:08 wpwrak: project creation is not automated, I need to do it for you 2010-08-01 05:08 do you have an account on projects? 2010-08-01 05:08 I need 2 things: your account name (wpwrak?) and what name you want for the project 2010-08-01 05:11 wolfspraul: account: werner, project name: how about keeping the not entirely accurate but reasonably self-explanatory "Ben NanoNote Case Scans" ? short name perhaps ben-scans or ben-case-scans 2010-08-01 05:11 guys, this is a good point indeed, but IRC never assumed privacy. That's why bnc's found a great use and host cloaking 2010-08-01 05:11 (not entirely accurate) because the scans also include items that are not really part of the case, such as the PCBs 2010-08-01 05:11 kyak [~kyak@unaffiliated/kyak] 2010-08-01 05:12 the main privacy concern is linking odd statements to well-known identities anyway. i mean, after a while, it's pretty clear who you are in real life :) but yes, you can defeat the stray google search 2010-08-01 05:15 ben-scans is good, the shorter the better 2010-08-01 05:15 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: convert all icon to 32x32, add one termnial apps icon http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a3542cd 2010-08-01 05:16 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: convert all icon to 32x32, add one terminal apps icon http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/448990f 2010-08-01 05:16 again? :P 2010-08-01 05:17 bartbes, there is a typo "termnial" --> "terminal" :P 2010-08-01 05:17 ... 2010-08-01 05:17 so ehm, how did you fix it, --amend? 2010-08-01 05:17 xiangfu: did you get an error when you did 'git push'? 2010-08-01 05:17 bartbes, yes 2010-08-01 05:17 wolfspraul, no 2010-08-01 05:18 well, normally you should amend before you push though 2010-08-01 05:18 wolfspraul, wait. there is one: "error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1" 2010-08-01 05:18 now we all got to see your type anyway 2010-08-01 05:18 fears SuperLinda 2010-08-01 05:19 bartbes, yes. 2010-08-01 05:19 does any one know how to connect devices to the nanonote 2010-08-01 05:19 wolfspraul: (short names) yup :) i might also try to simplify the file names a little. e.g., the draft-1mm isn't so pretty. 2010-08-01 05:20 how do you do you do it 2010-08-01 05:20 wpwrak: did you know that indefero supports both git & svn? do you want git or do you feel you have no choice? 2010-08-01 05:21 I could not use lsusb 2010-08-01 05:21 I'm slightly leaning towards git because it receives more love (commit logs etc), but if you are happier with svn we get that to work as well... 2010-08-01 05:22 so does anyone know how to mount devices 2010-08-01 05:23 wolfspraul: whichever has a repository-to-web gateway that gives nice mime types, so that i can link to :) 2010-08-01 05:23 SuperLinda, there is one way: "sudo sshfs root@192.168.254.101:/ /mnt" 2010-08-01 05:23 let's do git then 2010-08-01 05:24 thanks I will try this now 2010-08-01 05:24 SuperLinda, http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB#Transfer_files 2010-08-01 05:25 thanks xiangfu, I will look at this as well 2010-08-01 05:26 SuperLinda, you are welcome. :) 2010-08-01 05:26 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/p/ben-scans/ 2010-08-01 05:26 wpwrak: if anything doesn't work, let me know 2010-08-01 05:27 wolfspraul: thanks ! i'll get to it once the idbgs are up. 2010-08-01 05:28 wpwrak: if you want shorter URLs you can use http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-scans/ ... 2010-08-01 05:29 I'm pretty sure we keep this second domain stable since we use it also for the commit log URLs 2010-08-01 05:29 hey, do any of you guys use another browser other than lynx 2010-08-01 05:30 and like connecting a linux pc as host to Ben, is there a way to connect a phone directly as a modem 2010-08-01 05:33 xiangfu: I am trying to understand why unclouded (Neil Stockbridge) got a script error earlier when he pushed into git 2010-08-01 05:33 if you see any error when pushing, let me know 2010-08-01 05:33 unclouded did 2 commits it seems, I don't fully understand why http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/changes/master/ 2010-08-01 05:34 he got "error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1" 2010-08-01 05:35 wolfspraul, me too. 2010-08-01 05:36 wolfspraul,  17:18 wait. there is one: "error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1" 2010-08-01 05:36 you got that error too? 2010-08-01 05:36 wolfspraul, yes. 2010-08-01 05:36 wolfspraul: (short url) oh, nice ! the less redundancy, the better :) 2010-08-01 05:36 xiangfu: ok I'll try to reproduce it then. 2010-08-01 05:39 SuperLinda: well, it doesn't have USB host mode 2010-08-01 05:40 so I guess you'd need to create some serial connections manually, then get some drivers, do some more hard work, etc 2010-08-01 05:40 though I believe there were some working wifi cards 2010-08-01 05:42 Bartbes: well what if my phone does have usb host mode? 2010-08-01 05:43 well, in that case you'd need to mimic the setup you do on your comp on your phone 2010-08-01 05:43 and would installing debian be good for doing this? 2010-08-01 05:44 I see 2010-08-01 05:45 hey... a little sidenote... I have tried to set the password, using passwd 2010-08-01 05:45 but when i reboot it does not remember this 2010-08-01 05:47 that's weird 2010-08-01 05:47 I never had that.. 2010-08-01 05:47 maybe some of the other guys here now 2010-08-01 05:47 *know 2010-08-01 05:47 have you upgraded to the latest os 2010-08-01 05:48 and when you boot openwrt, does it boot with root at start? 2010-08-01 05:49 I am root, yes 2010-08-01 05:49 is there a way to check which version you are running? 2010-08-01 05:49 /etc/VERSION 2010-08-01 05:50 Xiangfu: are you able to set a static root password? 2010-08-01 05:51 right, and what is the newest one? 2010-08-01 05:51 SuperLinda, yes. I also use "passwd" to set password. if your rootfs mount as Read Only. 2010-08-01 05:51 bartbes, "2010-06-15" 2010-08-01 05:51 right 2010-08-01 05:51 I have that 2010-08-01 05:53 Xianfu: what do you mean by "if your rootfs mount as Read Only. 2010-08-01 05:53 bartbes, I am plan to  add commit number to the /etc/VERSION. 2010-08-01 05:53 SuperLinda: type mount 2010-08-01 05:53 like "2010-06-15  #commit d795fb" 2010-08-01 05:54 the first line should be something like "ubi0:rootfs on / type ubifs (rw,relatime) 2010-08-01 05:54 " 2010-08-01 05:54 notice the rw, meaning read/write, if it says ro, then your fs is mounted read-only 2010-08-01 05:57 the first line I get is: rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) 2010-08-01 05:57 then the next line is :ubi0:rootfs on / type ubifs (rw,relatime) 2010-08-01 05:58 ehm 2010-08-01 05:58 I might've had some minor scrolling :P 2010-08-01 05:58 well, that sounds right 2010-08-01 05:58 ok cool 2010-08-01 05:59 then I wonder why I boot into root automatically with no request for a password 2010-08-01 05:59 oh 2010-08-01 05:59 you wonder *that* 2010-08-01 05:59 because a login prompt is never started, it's that easy 2010-08-01 06:00 xiangfu: you got that script error when you did git push? 2010-08-01 06:00 on the console, in Linux? 2010-08-01 06:01 wolfspraul, yes. 2010-08-01 06:01 SuperLinda: actually I don't think there's a login prompt installed 2010-08-01 06:01 ok thx 2010-08-01 06:05 ok I think the irclogs are much cleaner now http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs/ 2010-08-01 06:06 no more join & part messages, no more IP addresses, no more netsplits and what not administrative stuff 2010-08-01 06:06 only public messages and actions 2010-08-01 06:06 I also purged the entire irclog archives so it's all consistant past and present 2010-08-01 06:07 great. :) 2010-08-01 06:09 (actually, it makes sense for actions to be treated as public messages, because they are) 2010-08-01 06:10 (an action message is a normal public message with a CTCP command) 2010-08-01 06:21 [commit] kyak: sound now works in freedroid, but only after enabling swap (takes quite http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/1ad8df0 2010-08-01 06:22 btw, i confirm error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1 :) 2010-08-01 06:22 hey do you know how to make the password stick, when setting the password with passwd? 2010-08-01 06:23 is anyone here? 2010-08-01 06:24 SuperLinda, just input passwd twice. follow the `passwd` tips. 2010-08-01 06:24 they stick 2010-08-01 06:24 you simply never have to log in 2010-08-01 06:24 as I said 2010-08-01 06:25 xiangfu: ehm, how do I quit joe? :P 2010-08-01 06:25 Ok Xiang let me try 2010-08-01 06:26 Xiangfu I have tried this and it still does not work 2010-08-01 06:26 SuperLinda: but when do you expect a password prompt? 2010-08-01 06:26 I mean it accepts the password, but it does not request the password at boot 2010-08-01 06:28 bartbes, Ctrl + C. 2010-08-01 06:28 bartbes, for save file "Ctrl + K, D" 2010-08-01 06:28 found it 2010-08-01 06:28 I think I died ctrl+x though 2010-08-01 06:29 must've missed the button ;) 2010-08-01 06:29 SuperLinda: because it can't 2010-08-01 06:29 SuperLinda, oh. you want the system stop at login prompt. wait for username and password. 2010-08-01 06:29 there is *no* program installed that prompts you 2010-08-01 06:29 or, that boots anyway 2010-08-01 06:29 but I doubt it is installed 2010-08-01 06:29 I told you that before (or I tried to) 2010-08-01 06:30 Ok Xiangfu: so there is no use in setting a root password? 2010-08-01 06:30 when you ssh 2010-08-01 06:36 bartbes, "Ctrl + K, H" for help, :) just fyi. 2010-08-01 06:37 meh 2010-08-01 06:37 it's not like I'm going to use joe anyway 2010-08-01 06:37 I used to use nano 2010-08-01 06:37 but I switched to vim 2010-08-01 06:45 noticing that openwrt uses ikpg packages has anyone converted any other browsers to use for wrt 2010-08-01 06:45 maybe a project in the works 2010-08-01 06:45 :) 2010-08-01 06:50 I think the wiki says someone is working on links2 2010-08-01 06:53 hmmm let me look that up 2010-08-01 06:57 zear: I finished the irclogs cleanup 2010-08-01 06:57 http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs/ 2010-08-01 06:57 wolfspraul, looks great, thanks 2010-08-01 06:57 nah thank you for highlighting the issue 2010-08-01 06:58 let's try like this for a while... 2010-08-01 09:22 Can anyone help me? 2010-08-01 09:24 PLease 2010-08-01 09:24 can anyone help me here? 2010-08-01 09:24 i have some questions about hardware 2010-08-01 09:26 Jan0, what is the question? 2010-08-01 09:28 I'd appreciate it if you didn't start a private message but talk in here, Jan0 2010-08-01 09:28 *send 2010-08-01 09:29 it's not like I didn't already have 16 tabs open 2010-08-01 09:30 xiangfu: so does joe still drop you to a terminal? 2010-08-01 09:31 bartbes, I am test the guile Makefile file now. will check the emails and test after test and commit guile. :) 2010-08-01 09:31 it's not like there's a solution 2010-08-01 09:31 more like 2010-08-01 09:31 "works for me" ;) 2010-08-01 09:38 #qi-hardware-test [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [links] move to Web submenu http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5efb573 2010-08-01 09:38 #qi-hardware-test [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [guile] fix compile error by John Moore http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5492fb2 2010-08-01 09:41 bartbes, I modify the "joe" shorcut to yours. but still not work. :( 2010-08-01 09:44 that's weird.. 2010-08-01 09:44 same for other applications? 2010-08-01 09:45 and, it does work if you start gmu for example? 2010-08-01 09:45 bartbes, gmu, dgclock works fine. 2010-08-01 09:45 only the terminal apps 2010-08-01 09:45 strange 2010-08-01 09:46 and, what is that illustrious wrapper? 2010-08-01 09:50 larsc: you there? 2010-08-01 09:56 rafa: yes 2010-08-01 09:57 larsc: Hi. I am trying to boot jlime from NAND. I am at kernel menuconfig.. if I read qi config I read : 2010-08-01 09:57 CONFIG_MTD_ROOTFS_ROOT_DEV=y 2010-08-01 09:57 CONFIG_MTD_ROOTFS_SPLIT=y 2010-08-01 09:57 xiangfu: do you know how the file browser in gmenu2x works? 2010-08-01 09:57 but I do not find those options in device drivers -> MTD -> mtd partition support 2010-08-01 09:58 bartbes, don't know. I never make it work. 2010-08-01 09:58 :( 2010-08-01 09:58 it sucks 2010-08-01 09:59 because that'd make linking easy 2010-08-01 10:00 bartbes, we are think add more terminal apps to gmenu2x "applications" section. 2010-08-01 10:00 bartbes, then people can easy run terminal apps. 2010-08-01 10:00 that'd be nice 2010-08-01 10:01 maybe even an option to drop to a terminal 2010-08-01 10:02 bartbes, yes. there is "fbterm" 2010-08-01 10:02 ooh 2010-08-01 10:02 bartbes, I already added it. but not make it work. just like other terminal apps. 2010-08-01 10:17 wow, Jan0 had an amazing question 2010-08-01 11:06 xiangfu: I cleaned up the git commit log scripts a bit more, although I could not reproduce the problem and I don't think I changed anything significant. 2010-08-01 11:07 so next time you commit - watch any unusual messages. I have a bit more logging turned on on the server now. 2010-08-01 11:07 wolfspraul, ok. 2010-08-01 11:08 you just committed a few things - did you get an error there? 2010-08-01 11:08 (it went into my test setup though, that's why it didn't show up here...) 2010-08-01 11:09 wolfspraul, there is an error , same as before. 2010-08-01 11:10 hmm 2010-08-01 11:10 don't know why I can't reproduce them 2010-08-01 11:10 permissions? 2010-08-01 11:10 (again) 2010-08-01 11:11 I'm going through the full procedure, only with a test project 2010-08-01 11:12 ok we will find the problem... I will just commit into openwrt-packages tomorrow, maybe I see it then 2010-08-01 11:13 yes, write a nice package Makefile :P 2010-08-01 11:13 (just to be clear, this is a joke) 2010-08-01 11:14 why not, I need to speed up. only that I dont' want to delay tracking down and fixing this particular little thing... 2010-08-01 11:14 so I'll just commit a test makefile, then delete it again. just want to get rid of this error quickly... 2010-08-01 11:15 wolfspraul, I have fix some typo not commit to openwrt-packge.git. I can commit it now. 2010-08-01 11:15 yeah but you will probably just see the bug again 2010-08-01 11:15 just try 2010-08-01 11:15 I'm too tired now to put more loggin in 2010-08-01 11:16 the bug may even be in the git script, not our commitlog/irc part 2010-08-01 11:16 sends wolfspraul a pillow 2010-08-01 11:16 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [fbgrab] fix typo http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/819508f 2010-08-01 11:17 there is the commit :-) 2010-08-01 11:17 Total 4 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0) 2010-08-01 11:17 error: hooks/post-receive exited with error code 1 2010-08-01 11:17 To git@projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-packages.git 2010-08-01 11:17    5492fb2..819508f  master -> master 2010-08-01 11:17 yeah 2010-08-01 11:17 I can imagine 2010-08-01 11:18 I'll look into this tomorrow, it doesn't happen in my test project even though I go through the exact same scripts 2010-08-01 11:19 n8 everybody 2010-08-01 11:20 night wolfspraul 2010-08-01 11:24 [commit] David Kühling: a new joe package that includes all the emulation modes for Emacs, Pico etc. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/8cd0be9 2010-08-01 11:24 [commit] David Kühling: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-packages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/eef6ed8 2010-08-01 11:26 back already? 2010-08-01 11:26 zombie 2010-08-01 11:42 rafa: i think you can ignore those entries 2010-08-01 12:01 [commit] Mirko Vogt: NanoMap: adjust Makefile to use the new and more generic way of handling projects using qmake, remove BROKEN flag http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b73cede 2010-08-01 12:07 [commit] Mirko Vogt: NanoMap: update to latest git revision http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/9e13344 2010-08-01 12:29 finally this qt-stuff is going to be work smooth... :) 2010-08-01 12:54 :D 2010-08-01 12:54 that's so cute ;) 2010-08-01 12:54 running fastgps 2010-08-01 13:33 bartbes: i think they just pronounce it "cute" because of so many possible wordplays... 2010-08-01 13:33 they probably do 2010-08-01 15:18 Hello 2010-08-01 15:19 I wonder... all the kernel code needed for the nanonote is already upstream in any release? 2010-08-01 15:19 2.6.34.1, let's say? 2010-08-01 15:22 it's going to be in 2.6.36 2010-08-01 15:22 most of it 2010-08-01 15:24 the udc driver and the lcd panel driver won't be in it, cause they need some more cleanup 2010-08-01 15:25 About the nanonote I have... 2010-08-01 15:25 When I write the nand, it has troubles writing the 0-1023 blocks (those of uboot) 2010-08-01 15:25 nanddump also fails there 2010-08-01 15:25 also usbboot 2010-08-01 15:25 Is that a common phenomena? 2010-08-01 15:25 nope 2010-08-01 15:25 uhm 2010-08-01 15:26 # nanddump /dev/mtd0 > /dev/null 2010-08-01 15:26 ECC failed: 82 2010-08-01 15:26 ECC corrected: 0 2010-08-01 15:28 writing the sectors does not help. 2010-08-01 15:32 hm 2010-08-01 15:33 it fails every 0x01000 2010-08-01 15:33 0x000000, 0x010000, 0x020000, ... until 0x070000 2010-08-01 15:36 for the detail of nanddump: http://qi.pastebin.com/SmvzFyCg 2010-08-01 15:36 and you say you can't even access through usbboot? 2010-08-01 15:36 I can access it 2010-08-01 15:36 but it complains the same way when writing 2010-08-01 15:36 Do you want a pastebin of that? 2010-08-01 15:36 I'm using the latest xburst-tools built yesterday 2010-08-01 15:37 It went the same way through the back usbboot button or through u_key+power_key 2010-08-01 22:17 wolfspraul: hmm, don't you want to submit sharism's (or qi-hw's ?) USB vendor ID to http://www.linux-usb.org/usb-ids.html ? 2010-08-01 22:17 yeah we should 2010-08-01 22:18 wolfspraul: as an added benefit, I could then pick up the official name of the entry and use it in my #defined in the idbg-ben firmware ;-) 2010-08-01 22:18 #defineS even