2010-07-30 03:27 say, why Ben NanoNote has no wikipedia article yet? 2010-07-30 03:32 because it's cooler than that? :) 2010-07-30 03:32 oh wikipedia being an open source project is equally cool ;) 2010-07-30 03:33 i don't feel being in a position to write an article about it, but i encourage you guys to do it :) 2010-07-30 03:33 we need publicity, remember how slashdot (or whatever it was) article doubled the sales? 2010-07-30 03:36 he :-) sales are good indeed :-) 2010-07-30 03:37 how many so far? 2010-07-30 03:37 but don't you think too many totally irrelevant projects and people abuse wikipedia for stupid marketing reasons? 2010-07-30 03:37 I'd say at this point NanoNote is about as relevant as any random new cake creation in a pastry shop :-) 2010-07-30 03:38 wolfspraul, that's true, but Ben NanoNote is a real hardware, it's a commercial product for a couple of months already, there's a lot of articles in the internet to quote 2010-07-30 03:38 I definitely won't sit down and write a euphemistic article about it... 2010-07-30 03:38 so it deserves an article on the wiki 2010-07-30 03:38 yeah, but I respect the Wikipedia project and their goals. Flooding it with irrelevant stuff is bad. 2010-07-30 03:38 oh it has to meet the POV 2010-07-30 03:38 our case should slowly get stronger, I'm not worried 2010-07-30 03:39 kyak: we sold about 900 to date I think 2010-07-30 03:39 i mean, NPOV, as in neutral point of view ;) 2010-07-30 03:39 wolfspraul, Jlime, heck, even Kristoffer, it's author have their own wiki arts 2010-07-30 03:40 and there are 4 wiki articles linking to nonexistant "Ben NanoNote" article 2010-07-30 03:41 oh, and on the other news, we in jlime are staying in contact with http://humaneinfo.com and trying to make his wikireader software run on the nanonote :) 2010-07-30 03:41 yes rafa mentioned it - cool 2010-07-30 03:41 his 2009 enwiki dump is only 1.1GB, that's enough to be fit on nano's nand 2010-07-30 03:42 rafa wants to incorporate it with his gnudict port 2010-07-30 03:43 great 2010-07-30 03:44 the only disadvantage of that will be lack of support for links, but that isn't really a big loss 2010-07-30 03:44 as you can type anything in the search area any time you want 2010-07-30 03:47 i'm really excited about this project 2010-07-30 04:02 zear: the dead links might mean that an article existed but was removed 2010-07-30 04:02 as happened to me once 2010-07-30 04:03 bartbes, i doubt, they are all in articles about opensource/open hardware projects, as one of the examples of such projects 2010-07-30 04:04 btw wolfspraul, is the initial batch sold out yet? 2010-07-30 04:15 zear: about 100 left 2010-07-30 06:35 I want to replace the rootfs with my own rootfs, I found a guide at http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ubifs, but this guide assumes I am doing it on the nanonte, how can that work, if I replace the original rootfs? 2010-07-30 06:37 how do I replace the rootfs via usbboot, can I just do mkfs.ubifs and flash this via usbboot? 2010-07-30 06:42 hallo99: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ubifs 2010-07-30 06:52 xiangfu: I have put the nanonote into usb boot mode, but /proc/mtd on my laptop does not list any of the nanonote partions 2010-07-30 06:54 hallo99: that is right. when nanonote into usb-boot mode. it's not a USB-DISK. 2010-07-30 06:55 hallo99:  we need use "usbboot" command to reflash the device. 2010-07-30 06:56 hallo99: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Updating_Ben_NanoNote_software 2010-07-30 07:01 If I just want to reflash the rootfs over usb, do I have to use an image created directly by mkfs.ubifs, or do I have to modify that image somehow? 2010-07-30 07:02 hallo99: there are two option to test your rootfs. 2010-07-30 07:03 1. flash to NAND: the image must ubifs format. yes. we must create the image by mkfs.ubifs 2010-07-30 07:03 2. copy your rootfs to SD card. boot the system from sd card. 2010-07-30 07:04 format your first sd card partition to ext2. then copy your rootfs to that partition. copy the kernel to SDCARD:/boot/uImage. 2010-07-30 07:05 hold the KEY_M when poweron. NanoNote will boot to sdcard. 2010-07-30 07:11 I don't own an micro-sd card, so option 2 is not for me 2010-07-30 07:12 If I want to flash via usbboot, I do 1. mkfs.ubifs and 2. usbboot? I don't have to do ubinize and ubiformat and ubiattach? 2010-07-30 10:37 rafa: yes correct, cleaning up a bit 2010-07-30 10:37 upticked mediawiki, fixed a css problem on downloads 2010-07-30 10:38 optimized the spamassassin config 2010-07-30 10:38 want to get rid of the unstable qi-commits and use eggdrop for all irc stuff 2010-07-30 10:38 want to merge the developer list into the discussion list 2010-07-30 10:38 preparing to help Sebastien with a new Milkymist website designed by rez/corelabs 2010-07-30 10:39 and so on 2010-07-30 10:39 wow.. big TODO list.. nice 2010-07-30 10:39 (for today) :) 2010-07-30 10:39 :) 2010-07-30 10:40 yeah, I also need to get to some more risky things, like removing the partition block from the virtual machine. somehow it's always causing a hang on restarts... 2010-07-30 10:40 anyway, out now, n8 everybody 2010-07-30 10:40 nite 2010-07-30 10:41 cya 2010-07-30 10:41 wait 2010-07-30 10:41 rafa: new news?? 2010-07-30 10:41 he says goodnight at 16:30?! 2010-07-30 10:41 haha 2010-07-30 10:42 kristianpaul: no good news yet. Waiting for the human wikireader author answer 2010-07-30 10:42 bartbes: he is the other side of the globe 2010-07-30 10:42 kristianpaul: I wrote him twice 2010-07-30 10:42 ok \ 2010-07-30 10:42 kristianpaul: then how come his hostname is german? 2010-07-30 10:42 kristianpaul: and I was thinking how to go further if his answer is not useful for us :) 2010-07-30 10:42 cant wait.. ;) 2010-07-30 10:42 bartbes: sshing 2010-07-30 10:42 I do not have great idea yet though :P 2010-07-30 10:42 but why not use ssh+screen and leave the session open? 2010-07-30 10:43 too much questions, I know.. 2010-07-30 10:43 bartbes: :) 2010-07-30 10:43 rafa: use grep ! 2010-07-30 10:43 :p 2010-07-30 10:43 bartbes: if you do that then that is why you want to read the whole buffer chat session that you did not read.. I think that wolfgang does not have enough time for that :) 2010-07-30 10:44 may be ack-grep modified to wikipedia articls 2010-07-30 10:44 that is because* 2010-07-30 10:44 yes time is wothly this days 2010-07-30 10:44 kristianpaul: we need a tiny dump wikipedia first, and we need to know : 2010-07-30 10:44 - how to make that tiny wikipedia dump < 2GB 2010-07-30 10:45 binary ! 2010-07-30 10:45 - how to get articles from it 2010-07-30 10:45 grep ! :p 2010-07-30 10:45 rafa: that raises the question, why ssh at all? 2010-07-30 10:45 rafa: buy for that size or binary or really good compressed 2010-07-30 10:45 ah 2010-07-30 10:45 I can probably ask an infinite amount of questions, so it's not like you *have* to answer that one 2010-07-30 10:45 like wikipediam dumops right now ! 2010-07-30 10:46 at least for spanish 2010-07-30 10:46 is less than 2GB 2010-07-30 10:46 bartbes: perhaps if you use a standard system without many applications installed you will need ssh 2010-07-30 10:46 but you need indexsome how 2010-07-30 10:46 rafa: i think you should write to the wikpedia dumpreader developer 2010-07-30 10:46 if you dint already?.. 2010-07-30 10:46 bartbes: perhaps I do not have.. but infinite amount of question have infine amount of answers for every question ;) 2010-07-30 10:47 kristianpaul: english dump is around 6GB these days 2010-07-30 10:47 is that true? then why isn't the dna of a duck equal to that of a donkey? 2010-07-30 10:47 :P 2010-07-30 10:48 rafa: yess :( 2010-07-30 10:48 lets speak all spanish then :) 2010-07-30 10:48 bartbes: because they live in the same era 2010-07-30 10:48 kristianpaul: ;-) 2010-07-30 10:49 hmm 2010-07-30 10:49 thewre is dumps for the simple english wikipedia? 2010-07-30 10:49 wikireader@decideur.info 2010-07-30 10:49 kristianpaul: I know how to index and how to retrieve articles if we know how to make dumps <2GB 2010-07-30 10:50 I am not worried about how to do indexes and how to get articles. The main problem is to have a wikipedia dump <2GB 2010-07-30 10:50 a more serious question, why can't I just use mips-*-make instead of having to go through the trouble to get that package system set up? :P 2010-07-30 10:50 (I don't expect an answer, I know it isn't that easy) 2010-07-30 10:50 rafa: indeed 2010-07-30 10:50 btw the wikireader devices uses 4gb sd no? 2010-07-30 10:51 so thats a challenge get <2GB 2010-07-30 10:51 bartbes: because you have not set a toolchain. For jlime we have one, and you just want to build a just application you do not need to build the whole system. 2010-07-30 10:51 rafa: https://launchpad.net/~benji2 wikipedia dumpreader guy 2010-07-30 10:51 bartbes: xiangfu said me this today : 2010-07-30 10:51 "make package/uboot-xburst/compile" 2010-07-30 10:52 but surely the application is already under openwrt building system. IF you want to build another external application you need a toolchain 2010-07-30 10:52 not entirely what I meant 2010-07-30 10:52 and I am using thr toolchain 2010-07-30 10:52 but my current complaint is that I spend more time waiting then actually fixing 2010-07-30 10:53 bartbes: then, what do you mean with "to get that package system set up"? 2010-07-30 10:54 do you know how long it takes to create a working Makefile? 2010-07-30 10:55 bbl 2010-07-30 10:55 but I'm just bitching 2010-07-30 10:55 bartbes: I do not understand what you mean, sorry. 2010-07-30 10:55 bartbes: you write makefiles for every application? 2010-07-30 10:55 you have to 2010-07-30 10:56 ?? 2010-07-30 10:56 a special one 2010-07-30 10:56 but yeah 2010-07-30 10:56 the application already have one 2010-07-30 10:56 hehe 2010-07-30 10:56 no 2010-07-30 10:56 which applications? 2010-07-30 10:56 one with the package definition 2010-07-30 10:56 are you talking about open source software? 2010-07-30 10:56 and I do not know that is "package definition" 2010-07-30 10:56 what is 2010-07-30 10:56 http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/devel/packages 2010-07-30 10:56 that 2010-07-30 10:56 bahh.. 2010-07-30 10:57 are you talking about openwrt :P 2010-07-30 10:57 why do not you use the Makefile that every application provides? 2010-07-30 10:57 because it doesn't work that way 2010-07-30 10:57 lot of hard work 2010-07-30 10:57 extra 2010-07-30 10:57 if you read the page you'll see why 2010-07-30 10:57 it's not like I need to tell it how to compile 2010-07-30 10:57 the makefile is purely for instructing the toolchain how to build the application 2010-07-30 10:58 nah.. I prefer just download the application and build. No extra work. Or, if you need many applications you would use Debian or another more complete building system ;) 2010-07-30 10:59 I'm.. porting.. something.. 2010-07-30 10:59 now I understand why there are millions of new mails talking about application ported to openwrt... :) 2010-07-30 11:03 well yeah 2010-07-30 11:03 I'm currently failing to port a test app 2010-07-30 11:03 :P 2010-07-30 11:03 I did manage to port physfs with lots of help from jirkab 2010-07-30 11:04 that only took 8 hours :D 2010-07-30 11:04 (including setting up the toolchain etc) 2010-07-30 11:12 xiangfu: ruby host-compile build fails for me 2010-07-30 11:12 xiangfu: let me know if you experience the same on a clean build 2010-07-30 11:15 kyak: I start to build the openwrt-xburst everyday.(I start to this two days ago, so it's only compile twice :) all compile fine. 2010-07-30 11:15 kyak: what is the error message? 2010-07-30 11:15 kyak: maybe we miss some package in your system. 2010-07-30 11:21 xiangfu: the error has appeared after package update 2010-07-30 11:21 i.e. make package/symlinks 2010-07-30 11:23 xiangfu: http://pastebin.com/xDU3xKQz 2010-07-30 11:24 hm 2010-07-30 11:24 i think i'm getting it 2010-07-30 11:24 my system openssl was updated to 1.0 2010-07-30 11:24 this is a host compile, and some older version of openssl is assumed 2010-07-30 11:25 not cool.. 2010-07-30 11:26 i think i need to wait when ruby-openssl will be updated to compile again latest openssl 2010-07-30 11:28 kyak: my system is openssl                                   0.9.8k-7ubuntu8 2010-07-30 11:28 yeah.. mine was too 0.9.8* before the update 2010-07-30 11:28 kyak: I think I need add "make clean" to that compile. 2010-07-30 11:28 kyak: maybe not. 2010-07-30 11:29 yeah, it definitely was 0.9.8.. i totally forgot 2010-07-30 11:29 i updated mandriva 2010.0 -> 2010.1 2010-07-30 11:29 so now i have openssl 1.0 2010-07-30 11:31 i think i can install an older version of openssl along with the current one 2010-07-30 11:31 but this can make things worse :) 2010-07-30 11:34 i skipped the ruby / libruby bild for now 2010-07-30 11:37 kyak: sure. 2010-07-30 11:49 gdb is built by default.. not necessary, imo 2010-07-30 11:53 xiangfu: that's all, no more errors except for ruby 2010-07-30 11:56 Carlos Camargo: Changing D10, D9, D8 footprints to 0805 Adding DC jack polarity indication http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/f95025d 2010-07-30 12:06 xiangfu: you still there? 2010-07-30 12:06 rafa: yes 2010-07-30 12:06 xiangfu: my professor tried to build openwrt to get the uboot for SAKC. 2010-07-30 12:07 He found this directory : openwrt-xburst/build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-sakc 2010-07-30 12:07 but you said me that I should copy build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-qi_lb60/u-boot-2010.06/ 2010-07-30 12:07 to get the sources of uboot for sakc 2010-07-30 12:07 if that directory (openwrt-xburst/build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-sakc) obsolete? 2010-07-30 12:08 rafa: the code is the same. 2010-07-30 12:08 xiangfu: ah.. okey :) 2010-07-30 12:08 rafa: the only different is that which different option. 2010-07-30 12:09 okey.. but if I copy build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-qi_lb60/u-boot-2010.06/ as you 2010-07-30 12:09 suggested me 2010-07-30 12:09 and then 2010-07-30 12:09 make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-openwrt-linux- sakc_config 2010-07-30 12:09 rafa: yes. 2010-07-30 12:09 I will get the proper code to build the uboot for sakc 2010-07-30 12:10 rafa: yes. 2010-07-30 12:11 okey, thanks a lot xiangfu 2010-07-30 12:11 rafa: if we select the sakc in bootloader option. (in make menuconfig). then we have have a folder like: /linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-sakc 2010-07-30 12:11 we were confused because he found the other u-boot-sakc 2010-07-30 12:11 rafa: if we select the qi_lb60 in menuconfig. then we will get a folder like /linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-xburst 2010-07-30 12:11 rafa: the source code is exactly the same. only different is : 2010-07-30 12:12 u-boot-sake run " make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-openwrt-linux- sakc_config" 2010-07-30 12:12 u-boot-xburst run "make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-openwrt-linux- qi_lb60_config" 2010-07-30 12:13 xiangfu: okey, so I did this : 2010-07-30 12:13 make package/uboot-xburst/compile 2010-07-30 12:14 then I copied : build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/u-boot-qi_lb60/u-boot-2010.06 2010-07-30 12:14 to /tmp for example. 2010-07-30 12:14 Then I did that you suggested me : 2010-07-30 12:14 make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-linux- distclean 2010-07-30 12:14 make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-linux- sakc_config 2010-07-30 12:14 make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-linux- 2010-07-30 12:14 and I got the binary :) 2010-07-30 12:14 yes. 2010-07-30 12:14 u-boot-nand.bin is for NAND. 2010-07-30 12:14 my toolchain is mipsel-linux- .. that is why I did not use mipsel-openwrt-linux- 2010-07-30 12:15 xiangfu: thans a lot man 2010-07-30 12:15 rafa: you are welcome. 2010-07-30 12:44 muahahahaha ?:) 2010-07-30 12:44 I'm finally getting the hang of it 2010-07-30 12:44 oh and that is supposed to be >, though I probably do have a big curl 2010-07-30 12:47 rafa: in fact the "ARCH=mips" is not needed by uboot(it's only needed by compile kernel). I make an alias crossmake='make ARCH=mips CROSS_COMPILE=mipsel-openwrt-linux-' then I can easy type 'crossmake' to compile uboot and kernel. just for your information. :) 2010-07-30 12:47 bartbes: it's compile fine? 2010-07-30 12:49 xiangfu: ha!.. cool tip ;) 2010-07-30 12:51 xiangfu: I'm doing something else which is finally progressing 2010-07-30 12:51 too bad it's a test 2010-07-30 12:51 and not the final product 2010-07-30 12:51 hmm, what exactly needs 5 V in the sakc ? almost all modern chips want at most 3.3 V ... 2010-07-30 12:54 I thought 5V was still considered logic high 2010-07-30 12:55 xiangfu: here http://en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/2010-June/000734.html you mentioned you included centerim in openwrt-packages.. it's not really there. And it's also not anymore on jirka's page. Do you know what's happened? 2010-07-30 13:04 bartbes: where have you been the last decades ? ;-)) 2010-07-30 13:05 kyak: no. I will send email to him. the centerim is not in oepwnrt-package.git. too bad. I will send email to Jirka again. 2010-07-30 13:05 bartbes: most I/O runs at 3.3 V these days. faster signals, such as memory buses and such, often at 1.8 V. internal logic can go even lower. 2010-07-30 13:06 xiangfu: thanks! 2010-07-30 13:09 wpwrak: but still, wpwrak... 2010-07-30 13:09 wow 2010-07-30 13:10 mentioned your name twice 2010-07-30 13:10 in one sentence 2010-07-30 13:10 that has to be a world record 2010-07-30 13:10 kyak: I need goto sleep. 01:00AM here :) 2010-07-30 13:10 ... 2010-07-30 13:10 wprak: centerim does't work well on Ben's small screen. 2010-07-30 13:10 xiangfu: indeed you need :) there was some activity here today... thanks for your help :) 2010-07-30 13:11 jirkab: Hi. we have small font now 4x8. we can try it again :) 2010-07-30 13:12 ok, the I will add the Makefile for the centerin to git 2010-07-30 13:12 jirkab: very thanks . I got go offline, see you. 2010-07-30 13:13 jirkab: hi! would be nice 2010-07-30 13:21 jyak: btw, centerim IPK is still available: fast10.vsb.cz/brozovsky/data/ports/centerim_4.22.9-2_xburst.ipk 2010-07-30 13:26 i'm more interested in Makefile, but thanks :) 2010-07-30 13:29 kyak: please wait few moments, it will be in GIT repository soon ;-) 2010-07-30 13:30 Jiri Brozovsky: Initial port of Centerim IM application. Needs smaller than the default http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/fdf24ad 2010-07-30 13:31 CenterIM should be in openwrt-packages now ;-) 2010-07-30 13:31 kewl! 2010-07-30 13:32 jirkab: so how would I go about linking to SDL? 2010-07-30 13:32 use the flags output by "sdl-config --libs" 2010-07-30 13:33 ? 2010-07-30 13:33 which sdl-config? 2010-07-30 13:33 the one from the SDK 2010-07-30 13:35 where is it located? 2010-07-30 13:35 0wait nvm 2010-07-30 13:35 I have find 2010-07-30 13:36 pretty sure I did that 2010-07-30 13:36 hmm 2010-07-30 13:37 also you can specify the libraries by hand: see GMU or Gmenu2x makefiles 2010-07-30 13:38 yeah, I checked the output 2010-07-30 13:38 it is kind of what I was doing already 2010-07-30 13:43 jirkab: configure: error: The ncurses terminal library is required in order to build the program 2010-07-30 13:43 hm.. somehow the ncurses is not detected.. 2010-07-30 13:48 kyak: I will try it 2010-07-30 13:50 jirkab: yeah, please 2010-07-30 13:58 kyak: it was an error during configure? 2010-07-30 13:58 i see no error 2010-07-30 14:01 kyak: it works for me, no ncurses error 2010-07-30 14:02 kyak: how you are building this? make menuconfig ; make? 2010-07-30 14:10 jirkab: yes, during configure 2010-07-30 14:10 i build make package/centerim/install V=99 2010-07-30 14:11 if i just "make" the build still fails 2010-07-30 14:12 thats very strange, because other programs depending on libncurses build just fine 2010-07-30 14:13 kyak: you need to update dependencies (it is done automatically during "make menuconfig") 2010-07-30 14:14 jirkab: i just built the whole openwrt-xburst, so libncurses is already there definitely.. and i also ran make menuconfig to select centerim 2010-07-30 14:15 jirkab: do you have the latest everything? 2010-07-30 14:16 no idea - i use this SDK for some time 2010-07-30 14:17 if you have libncurses.so in the staging_dir/target-*/usr/lib then configure have to find it? 2010-07-30 14:18 I updated the sdk at 5 July 2010-07-30 14:19 yep, have it.. i will try to trick configure script with ac_cv_lib_ncurses_initscr 2010-07-30 14:19 i'm pretty sure compiler will find it 2010-07-30 14:19 might be something wrong with the configure script 2010-07-30 14:20 but why it works for me? 2010-07-30 14:21 you are saying you are build with SDK 2010-07-30 14:21 i build from within the toolchain 2010-07-30 14:21 maybe there is some difference? 2010-07-30 14:22 CONFIGURE_VARS+=ac_cv_lib_ncurses_initscr=yes 2010-07-30 14:22 in Makefile, no it goes further 2010-07-30 14:22 compiling so far.. 2010-07-30 14:22 let's see how it links 2010-07-30 14:23 *now it goes further 2010-07-30 14:24 ../../src/impgp.h:10:19: error: gpgme.h: No such file or directory 2010-07-30 14:24 ok, this is next :) 2010-07-30 14:24 i wonder how you avoided all this stuff.. 2010-07-30 14:24 seems the dependancy for libgpgme 2010-07-30 14:26 strange 2010-07-30 14:26 might be that you have all this already in SDK 2010-07-30 14:26 it's possible 2010-07-30 14:26 hm 2010-07-30 14:28 hmm, i don't have gpgme.h anywhere is openwrt-xburst dir 2010-07-30 14:29 checking for gpgme-config... /usr/bin/gpgme-config 2010-07-30 14:29 checking for GPGME - version >= 0.4.2... yes 2010-07-30 14:29 the hell is wrong with the configure script... 2010-07-30 14:29 it detects things from my host system 2010-07-30 14:29 --without-gpgme 2010-07-30 14:30 I don't have gpgme in the host system ;-) 2010-07-30 14:30 yep... jirkab, i bet you don't have libgpgme-devel in your system? 2010-07-30 14:30 yes :) 2010-07-30 14:30 i have it, because i use centerim actively on my host and compile it there.. 2010-07-30 14:31 surely I don't have it 2010-07-30 14:31 btw, --with-linux-headers is not a recognized option.. so it needs to be removed 2010-07-30 14:32 it will be removed ;-) 2010-07-30 14:33 configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --disable-ipv6, --without-gpgme 2010-07-30 14:33 again  i have to trick configure with ac_* stuff.. 2010-07-30 14:35 there is an option --with-gpgme= 2010-07-30 14:36 trying it.. 2010-07-30 14:36 configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --disable-ipv6, --with-gpgme 2010-07-30 14:37 still there is : --with-gpgme=PATH       path to gpgme-config (auto) 2010-07-30 14:37 really, in a face of centerim developers for such usage of auto tools. 2010-07-30 14:39 strange 2010-07-30 14:41 so I have updated my openwrt-xburst; now it is compiling the stuff 2010-07-30 14:42 ac_cv_path_GPGME_CONFIG="" into the Makefile.. 2010-07-30 14:42 checking for gpgme-config... no 2010-07-30 14:43 that's nice: no gpgme-config in the host system => no problem :-( 2010-07-30 14:43 yeah :) 2010-07-30 14:43 this is probably why it works for me 2010-07-30 14:43 hope it won't choke on something else now 2010-07-30 14:45 finished! 2010-07-30 14:45 :-) 2010-07-30 14:45 their configure is really clever: 2010-07-30 14:45 checking whether NLS is requested... no 2010-07-30 14:45 and 2010-07-30 14:45 jirkab: do you mind if i move centerim to Network/Instant Messaging? 2010-07-30 14:45 checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/freeware/bin/msgfmt 2010-07-30 14:45 checking for xgettext... /usr/nekoware/bin/xgettext 2010-07-30 14:45 checking for msgmerge... /usr/freeware/bin/msgmerge 2010-07-30 14:46 oops, its in utils 2010-07-30 14:46 yes 2010-07-30 14:46 damn.. what a weird configure.. just looking everwhere 2010-07-30 14:46 it will be better 2010-07-30 14:47 good! will do it in a minute 2010-07-30 14:47 and does it work on the Ben? 2010-07-30 14:48 good question, lol :)) 2010-07-30 14:48 ..haven't tried it yet 2010-07-30 14:49 jirkab: is there special reason why you disabled the checksum check? 2010-07-30 14:49 well, as a side product I will probably got compiled it on my MIPS desktop, too 2010-07-30 14:49 cool, a MIPS desktop 2010-07-30 14:50 not only on the NanoNote 2010-07-30 14:50 a good field to test things :) 2010-07-30 14:50 not so cool as I can not use it to compile OpenWRT stuff :-( 2010-07-30 14:50 it's SGI O2 2010-07-30 14:51 is it because it's big endian? 2010-07-30 14:51 hm, whats SGI O2? 2010-07-30 14:51 silicon graphics 2010-07-30 14:51 yes, it's big endian 2010-07-30 14:52 is it an old computer? 2010-07-30 14:52 1998 2010-07-30 14:52 still faster than Ben 2010-07-30 14:53 * satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for centerim: 2010-07-30 14:53 * satisfy_dependencies_for: libgpgme * 2010-07-30 14:53 during opkg install.. 2010-07-30 14:54 shit.. stupid me 2010-07-30 14:54 libgpgme in DEPENDS :) 2010-07-30 14:54 will remove it now 2010-07-30 14:55 :-) 2010-07-30 14:56 opkg just shown it's smartness :) 2010-07-30 14:57 libgpgme is not in feeds? 2010-07-30 14:57 can't see it there 2010-07-30 14:57 opkg was designed to be simple 2010-07-30 14:57 perhaps another thing to oprt 2010-07-30 14:57 not to be smart ;-) 2010-07-30 14:57 *port 2010-07-30 14:58 gpgme is surely in openwwrt 2010-07-30 14:58 what is simple, still can be smart ;) 2010-07-30 14:58 probably it is only not edabled to compile 2010-07-30 14:59 find . -type d -name gpgme 2010-07-30 14:59 nothing 2010-07-30 15:01 hi 2010-07-30 15:02 writing from centerim here 2010-07-30 15:02 hey 2010-07-30 15:02 cxdd: good. now get out 2010-07-30 15:02 so centerim works? 2010-07-30 15:02 kyak yes sir 2010-07-30 15:02 yep :) 2010-07-30 15:04 nice 2010-07-30 15:05 so really, no gpgme here 2010-07-30 15:05 I thought it is :-( 2010-07-30 15:13 kyak: centerim: some configure overrides to make it build in openwrt toolchain http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d25f457 2010-07-30 15:13 so it's there 2010-07-30 15:13 jirkab: thanks a lot for your help! 2010-07-30 15:15 will you add your updated Makefile to GIT? 2010-07-30 15:16 ok, I'm blind 2010-07-30 15:16 you just did it 2010-07-30 15:16 nice! 2010-07-30 15:16 thanks much, too 2010-07-30 15:19 i'm a little worried about the checksum though 2010-07-30 15:19 you had something different, and commented 2010-07-30 15:20 they don't have MD5SUM on their download site, so who knows what's there? 2010-07-30 15:20 I don't rememeber 2010-07-30 15:21 ah the chechsum is ok :) 2010-07-30 15:21 good 2010-07-30 15:21 googled it in many other repos 2010-07-30 15:21 no for the Friday beer.. see you all later! 2010-07-30 16:19 Jiri Brozovsky: Physfs library - initial port. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a20cbc7 2010-07-30 17:20 hi i m thinking of building pc, i want to check if all components are compatible, can someone help? 2010-07-30 20:05 hello 2010-07-30 20:05 is anyone here 2010-07-30 20:06 hello 2010-07-30 20:07 I have flashed my Nanonote, but I am not able to use the the keyboard on the gui 2010-07-30 20:08 I mean I can not navigate to specific apps on the Latest image 2010-07-30 20:09 is the gui gmenu2x? with a tab bar on the top of the screen, icons in the middle and a status bar on the bottom? 2010-07-30 20:09 I don't have a NanoNote myself, so I don't know exactly what the default config is 2010-07-30 20:10 yes 2010-07-30 20:11 there is also the letters R on the right side, and L on the left side of the screen 2010-07-30 20:11 they refer to the shoulder buttons of the gp2x, where gmenu2x originates from 2010-07-30 20:11 they change tab 2010-07-30 20:11 but I don't know which NanoNote keys are the equivalents 2010-07-30 20:12 Ok 2010-07-30 20:12 zear should know, but he's not here right now 2010-07-30 20:12 but I want to be able to install and use the web browser on it 2010-07-30 20:13 when is he usually here 2010-07-30 20:13 AFAIK, "q" = left, "p" = right 2010-07-30 20:14 "x" = execute 2010-07-30 20:14 yeah, thats how it works on my nanonote 2010-07-30 20:14 Nod. 2010-07-30 20:14 I never knew x was for execute 2010-07-30 20:15 what is Nod 2010-07-30 20:15 Nodding head. 2010-07-30 20:15 ok 2010-07-30 20:17 cool cool,  thanks ezdagor, atleast i learned something today 2010-07-30 20:17 I wish to learn more 2010-07-30 20:17 how did you know the keys and what they do? 2010-07-30 20:17 did you find out by trial and error? 2010-07-30 20:24 there is a doc page, but it's not very easy to find: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Gmenu2x 2010-07-30 20:24 thanks, I will go there now 2010-07-30 20:26 Hey real quick question :) 2010-07-30 20:27 I see a lot of people on this chat, but not a lot of action.  How active is this community? 2010-07-30 20:29 the chat activity is a bit random 2010-07-30 20:29 we have people from many time zones here, but they're not always active at the same time 2010-07-30 20:30 I see 2010-07-30 20:30 a relatively high number of users are also developers, so there are a lot of things being worked on 2010-07-30 20:31 Thats I want to become 2010-07-30 20:31 a developer 2010-07-30 20:31 so how come you do not have a nanonote? 2010-07-30 20:32 I'm actually a developer for the Dingoo, but since that has the same Ingenic SoC chip as its heart as the NanoNote I hang around here as well 2010-07-30 20:33 is the Dingoo and project that Qi is working on? 2010-07-30 20:33 the Dingoo is a Chinese portable media player / game console 2010-07-30 20:33 it's a completely unrelated company, but the hardware is similar 2010-07-30 20:34 I used the drivers that larsc wrote for the NanoNote and used them to make a more modern kernel for the Dingoo 2010-07-30 20:34 the Dingoo doesn't come with Linux, but thanks to the USB boot mode and the efforts of a guy nicknamed booboo it does run Linux now (Dingoo Linux aka Dingux) 2010-07-30 20:35 wow 2010-07-30 20:36 were could I see this device 2010-07-30 20:36 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingoo 2010-07-30 20:37 thanks 2010-07-30 20:38 Dingoo users hang out on the dingoonity.org forums and #dingoonity on this IRC server 2010-07-30 20:40 I will check that out as well 2010-07-30 20:41 test