2010-07-15 00:51 <kyak> xiangfu: hi
2010-07-15 00:51 <kyak> do you have problems building glib2 after feeds update? cause I do :)
2010-07-15 02:24 <xiangfu> kyak: Hi
2010-07-15 02:25 <kyak> hi again
2010-07-15 02:33 <xiangfu> kyak: I don't have compile error after feeds update.
2010-07-15 02:35 <xiangfu> kyak: seems the glib2 not select by default.
2010-07-15 02:36 <kyak> hm, i wonder how it became selected for me.. will try to disable
2010-07-15 02:37 <kyak> xiangfu: glib2 is "hard selected" in make menuconfig
2010-07-15 02:38 <kyak> --- glib2..
2010-07-15 02:38 <kyak> like this
2010-07-15 02:38 <xiangfu> kyak: which sub-menu?
2010-07-15 02:39 <xiangfu> kyak: not here.
2010-07-15 02:39 <xiangfu> kyak: <Libraries> --> <glibc> not selected.
2010-07-15 02:39 <kyak> Libraries -> glib2
2010-07-15 02:40 <kyak> glib2, not glibc
2010-07-15 02:40 <xiangfu> kyak: yes. glib2 , not select here.
2010-07-15 02:40 <kyak> hm
2010-07-15 02:41 <kyak> there must be some dependancy that made it active
2010-07-15 02:41 <xiangfu> kyak: yes.
2010-07-15 02:42 <kyak> i think i'll just grab the latest .config and replace mine
2010-07-15 02:42 <kyak> it must be skrewed
2010-07-15 02:43 <xiangfu> :)
2010-07-15 02:44 <kyak> hm
2010-07-15 02:44 <kyak> it's still active
2010-07-15 02:44 <kyak> is there some other config?
2010-07-15 02:46 <xiangfu> kyak: oh. I can my .config. what is the glib2 error?
2010-07-15 02:47 <xiangfu> I change my .config fle.
2010-07-15 02:47 <xiangfu> dis-select the glib2.
2010-07-15 02:47 <kyak> can i have it please?
2010-07-15 02:48 <xiangfu> kyak: ok wait.
2010-07-15 02:48 <kyak> i'll show you the error in a few..
2010-07-15 02:49 <xiangfu> kyak: http://www.openmobilefree.net/other/downloads/tmp/
2010-07-15 02:50 <xiangfu> kyak: http://www.openmobilefree.net/other/downloads/tmp/glib2_2.22.2-1_xburst.ipk
2010-07-15 02:50 <kyak> http://pastebin.mandriva.com/19281
2010-07-15 02:50 <kyak> th error
2010-07-15 02:51 <kyak> xiangfu: i don't actually need the ipk :)
2010-07-15 02:51 <kyak> better to get this fixed or not to build glib2 at all
2010-07-15 02:52 <kyak> xiangfu: i meant, can i have your .config?
2010-07-15 02:52 <xiangfu> kyak: oh. you mean the .config file. sorry.
2010-07-15 02:53 <kyak> also, you can build glib2, so the problem might be something else
2010-07-15 02:54 <kyak> at first i understood it so, that it got selected for me by accident
2010-07-15 02:54 <xiangfu> kyak: http://www.openmobilefree.net/other/downloads/tmp/config
2010-07-15 02:55 <xiangfu> kyak: maybe you check if there gettext library in your host system.
2010-07-15 02:56 <kyak> xiangfu: there is.. also, it built just fine until yerterday's evening
2010-07-15 02:56 <kyak> when i updated feeds
2010-07-15 02:57 <kyak> hm, make menuconfig is taking a while with your .config
2010-07-15 03:00 <kyak> it just keep outputting three lines
2010-07-15 03:00 <kyak> ++ mkdir -p stamp lib usr/include usr/lib
2010-07-15 03:00 <kyak> mkdir &
2010-07-15 03:00 <kyak> cd ..
2010-07-15 03:01 <xiangfu> kyak: hmm. strange.
2010-07-15 03:01 <xiangfu> kyak: we just delete the .config file. and create a new one. by "make menuconfig"
2010-07-15 03:01 <kyak> good idea
2010-07-15 03:02 <xiangfu> kyak: the glib2 finished compile here. without error.
2010-07-15 03:02 <kyak> make menuconfig started ok without .config
2010-07-15 03:04 <xiangfu> kyak: select  [Target System]  --> [Ingenic XBurst].
2010-07-15 03:05 <xiangfu> kyak: [Subtarget] --> [QI Ben Nanonote (qi_lb60)]
2010-07-15 03:05 <kyak> yep
2010-07-15 03:06 <kyak> anytthing else?
2010-07-15 03:07 <xiangfu> kyak: no .
2010-07-15 03:08 <kyak> making now..
2010-07-15 03:25 <kyak> xiangfu: it went fine, cause no pacakges were selected
2010-07-15 03:25 <kyak> rootfs is 916 Kb :)
2010-07-15 03:28 <kyak> not i try to enable glib2
2010-07-15 03:30 <kyak> and build fails
2010-07-15 03:31 <kyak> after i enabled glib2
2010-07-15 03:31 <kyak> the same error
2010-07-15 03:45 <xiangfu> kyak: hmm.. try to select "libintl" in
2010-07-15 03:45 <xiangfu> Libraries
2010-07-15 03:48 <kyak> xiangfu: it's selected by default
2010-07-15 03:49 <kyak> "Hard" selected
2010-07-15 03:52 <xiangfu> kyak: hmm. if there "gettext-0.17" under "build_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.30.1"
2010-07-15 03:53 <kyak> xiangfu: there is
2010-07-15 03:53 <xiangfu> kyak: if there is. let's try delete "gettext-0.17" and "glib-2.22.2" and try "make" again.
2010-07-15 03:54 <kyak> making now
2010-07-15 04:02 <kyak> xiangfu: hey, it went fine! :)
2010-07-15 04:03 <kyak> xiangfu: thanks :) i need to "make clean" sometimes
2010-07-15 04:09 <xiangfu> kyak: great.
2010-07-15 05:33 <xiangfu> iPerl: hihi :)
2010-07-15 05:33 <N_jie_qi> hi
2010-07-15 05:33 <xiangfu> hi
2010-07-15 05:34 <iPerl> xiangfu: hi:)
2010-07-15 05:48 <wpwrak> lekernel: good point ;-)
2010-07-15 05:56 <kyak> mathomatic is not compiled, complains for readline unavailable
2010-07-15 05:56 <kyak> disabled it.
2010-07-15 05:57 <kyak> hm, no wonder, libreadline gets built after mathomatic
2010-07-15 05:59 <kyak> it is so useful to make a clean build sometimes
2010-07-15 06:17 <qwebirc60110> hi Iam newbie to nanonote
2010-07-15 06:17 <qwebirc60110> can anybody help me
2010-07-15 06:18 <xiangfu> qwebirc60110: Hi
2010-07-15 06:19 <qwebirc60110> can you help me xiangfu
2010-07-15 06:19 <xiangfu> qwebirc60110: hope I can . :). what is the problem?
2010-07-15 06:21 <qwebirc60110> how can i develop any application for it ?
2010-07-15 06:21 <qwebirc60110> and run ove rit
2010-07-15 06:23 <zear> qwebirc60110, you can write it on your desktop pc and then cross-compile it with a right toolchain to the nanonote
2010-07-15 06:24 <zear> use the same tools you use for developing apps for linux
2010-07-15 06:24 <qwebirc60110> from where I can download the toolchain ?
2010-07-15 06:24 <zear> you have to compile it yourself
2010-07-15 06:24 <xiangfu> qwebirc60110:  here is some document: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image#Building_OpenWrt-image_from_source
2010-07-15 06:32 <qwebirc60110> can we develop any graphical appication for it ?
2010-07-15 06:55 <zear> qwebirc60110, yes, if you use the right libs
2010-07-15 06:55 <zear> mainly sdl
2010-07-15 06:56 <qwebirc60110> how ? plz tell me the procedure
2010-07-15 06:56 <zear> though there is also gtk and qt, but there are still problems with that libs
2010-07-15 06:56 <zear> well.. you have to learn sdl
2010-07-15 06:56 <qwebirc60110> that is not the issue
2010-07-15 06:56 <zear> the sdl app has to be 320x240 and 32bpp
2010-07-15 06:56 <zear> that's pretty much all about sdl
2010-07-15 06:56 <qwebirc60110> i only need to knwo the procedure
2010-07-15 06:56 <qwebirc60110> and what about toolchain
2010-07-15 06:57 <zear> there's no difference between the nanonote and a desktop linux pc
2010-07-15 06:57 <zear> you write your sdl in the same manner
2010-07-15 06:57 <zear> *your adl app\
2010-07-15 06:57 <zear> *sdl
2010-07-15 06:57 <zear> as for the toolchain, xiangfu linked you the howto already
2010-07-15 06:58 <zear> it is a little complicated, i never mastered openwrt's toolchain
2010-07-15 06:58 <zear> though i'm sure the guys here will help you with it if you get stucked at some point
2010-07-15 07:06 <unclouded> there's a page on the wiki with a Hello-SDL example that shows how the OpenWRT toolchain can be used to compile your own SDL apps: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Compiling_for_the_NanoNote
2010-07-15 08:03 <mth> larsc: jz_nand_ioremap_banks will remap the first num_banks banks, while those might not be the ones selected in the pdata
2010-07-15 08:05 <mth> for example, in the pdata I have ".banks = { 3 }", then bank 3 should be remapped, while bank 1 will be
2010-07-15 08:05 <mth> the resource name is correct, but bank_mem and bank_base are not
2010-07-15 08:06 <larsc> ai see
2010-07-15 08:06 <larsc> i
2010-07-15 09:48 <lekernel> http://www.adciv.org/ ("advanced civilization")
2010-07-15 09:48 <lekernel> ie economy of abundance through automation
2010-07-15 09:48 <lekernel> today it's just a bunch of talking ofc
2010-07-15 09:55 <urandom_> lekernel interesting that http://www.adciv.org/ but they mistake is that they forget about history, they try to reinvent something which have already have been an idea for ages: communism
2010-07-15 09:57 <lekernel> yeah, but communism in its actual implementations was marked by technologic retards and lack of innovation
2010-07-15 10:03 <urandom_> lekernel yeah but technologie wasnt really ready for communism at that time, also communism hasnt be implemented but socialism and socialism
2010-07-15 10:03 <lekernel> is it ready today?
2010-07-15 10:03 <lekernel> a lot of the stuff that the website presents isn't really working yet
2010-07-15 10:03 <urandom_> partly yes
2010-07-15 10:04 <urandom_> the problem is that capitalism blocks automatition in some cases cause human labor is very cheap in it
2010-07-15 10:05 <urandom_> so we need socialism first
2010-07-15 10:05 <urandom_> lekernel ever heared of cybersyn?
2010-07-15 10:06 <lekernel> nope
2010-07-15 10:06 <urandom_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersyn
2010-07-15 10:06 <urandom_> very interesting stuff
2010-07-15 10:14 <zear> urandom_, sounds like a hoax
2010-07-15 10:14 <urandom_> a hoax?
2010-07-15 10:14 <zear> only one reference link and the picture is obviously a part of a sci-fi movie scenography
2010-07-15 10:15 <urandom_> no its not a hoax
2010-07-15 10:16 <zear> well, the picture is not real, at least
2010-07-15 10:17 <urandom_> its real i think
2010-07-15 10:17 <zear> just look at that chairs
2010-07-15 10:17 <urandom_> look here http://www.cybersyn.cl/ingles/cybersyn/index.html
2010-07-15 10:17 <zear> piece of plastic with fake geometric buttons
2010-07-15 10:17 <zear> and no wires
2010-07-15 10:17 <zear> also, the screens in the background look very fake
2010-07-15 10:19 <urandom_> it says the room was futuristic, well doesnt mather, but cybersyn was real for sure, have read much about it
2010-07-15 10:19 <zear> no, the picture looks like from startrek
2010-07-15 10:19 <zear> according to the wiki the project was running in 1970-73
2010-07-15 10:20 <zear> i don't think computers in that time were so advanced
2010-07-15 10:20 <zear> it rather looks like a part of a sci-fi movie scenography
2010-07-15 10:21 <urandom_> zear there is lot of stuff about it to read vom different authors, it is real for sure
2010-07-15 10:22 <zear> i refuse to believe this photo depics a real control room of this computer
2010-07-15 10:22 <urandom_> it is very impressive what they could do in 1970 so imagine what we could do now
2010-07-15 10:22 <zear> Where are punched cards? Where is a lot of control leds?
2010-07-15 10:23 <zear> yeah, hard to believe Chile could achieve such an advanced project in the 70s
2010-07-15 10:23 <zear> i claim it fake :P
2010-07-15 10:23 <urandom_> zear read http://www.williambowles.info/sa/FanfareforEffectiveFreedom.pdf
2010-07-15 10:24 <zear> ok, that's a lot of text. And with references
2010-07-15 10:24 <zear> but i still think the picture is not real
2010-07-15 10:25 <zear> or it's at least a concept of a control room
2010-07-15 10:25 <zear> but it doesn't look functional at all
2010-07-15 10:25 <zear> especially with that silly geometric buttons
2010-07-15 10:26 <urandom_> oh yeah it might just be concept, dont know, does it mather? cybersyn is real and cybersyn was fucking interesting and we should learn from it
2010-07-15 10:26 <zear> yes it does, the photo depicts something that can not be real
2010-07-15 10:26 <zear> *might not
2010-07-15 10:28 <urandom_> ask here http://www.cybersyn.cl/ingles/contact.html for example if it is real if that is really brothering you so much
2010-07-15 10:28 <zear> not bothering me that much to ask them ;)
2010-07-15 10:28 <zear> just saying that to me the picture looks fake
2010-07-15 10:29 <zear> this is how control rooms looked like: http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/jsc40/gallery/lores/S65-42424.jpg
2010-07-15 10:29 <zear> now compare that to that silly chair-computers
2010-07-15 10:30 <urandom_> yeah in the U,S and A but Chile might have done different, they wanted to try new concepts
2010-07-15 10:31 <urandom_> i cant imagine it looked like this or at least very futuristic
2010-07-15 10:32 <zear> but that chars don't make a sense
2010-07-15 10:32 <zear> *chairs
2010-07-15 10:33 <urandom_> well they look kind of cool, also from what i read about how the control room was desgined it might have looked like this
2010-07-15 10:35 <urandom_> zear http://newsinfo.iu.edu/web/page/normal/11088.html
2010-07-15 10:36 <urandom_> read "While the Cybersyn control room looked futuristic and modern,....."
2010-07-15 10:36 <urandom_> "For example, the flat panel projection screens used a series of slide projectors located behind the wall that were attached to the armrests of the chairs. When you pushed a button on the armrest, it would change the slide on the screen."
2010-07-15 10:37 <zear> urandom_, ok, maybe you're right and it is real
2010-07-15 10:37 <zear> but that picture will always look fake to me ;)
2010-07-15 10:39 <urandom_> i dont care if it looks fake for you, i wanted to talk about cybersyn not if pictures are fake but yeah
2010-07-15 10:46 <zear> heh, don't mind me ;)
2010-07-15 11:41 <wpwrak> (1973) punch cards ... hmm ... considering that Multics started already in 1964, the PDP-11 was introduced in 1970 and also Unix saw the light of day that year, i wouldn't be so dimissive about 1973 technology :)
2010-07-15 11:46 <rafa> wpwrak: http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/misc/commodore_calcualtor_playboy_december_1973.jpg
2010-07-15 11:46 <rafa> :)
2010-07-15 11:47 <rafa> cheapear than nn
2010-07-15 11:47 <rafa> december 1973
2010-07-15 11:48 <wpwrak> rafa: even has rechargable batteries ! :)
2010-07-15 11:50 <rafa> yeah, and you can return it within two weeks for a FULL refund
2010-07-15 11:50 <rafa> nice
2010-07-15 11:53 <wpwrak> and just three years later, this classic (i had one): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-30
2010-07-15 11:54 <nebajoth> pfft
2010-07-15 11:54 <nebajoth> I haz abacus.
2010-07-15 11:54 <rafa> wpwrak: cool stuff :)
2010-07-15 11:54 <rafa> nebajoth: you are too old
2010-07-15 11:54 <rafa> :)
2010-07-15 11:54 <nebajoth> and it communicates with another abacus in my other home with two cans and a string
2010-07-15 11:54 <nebajoth> down which I shout modem sounds
2010-07-15 11:55 <nebajoth> which is how real men do it.
2010-07-15 11:56 <wpwrak> nebajoth: when i was young, the way to school was three hours through 2m of snow. uphill. both ways :)
2010-07-15 11:59 <rafa> wpwrak: and now people complain about the half an hour bus trip from home to school
2010-07-15 12:16 <Ornotermes> is there anyone working on a port of snes9x for openwrt?
2010-07-15 12:39 <rafa> Ornotermes: do you need the sources?
2010-07-15 12:41 <Ornotermes> no, i just wondered if someone was working on it, i use dingox binary but i dont like the keybinidings very much, and a native version cold maybe get a little better performance
2010-07-15 12:42 <Ornotermes> dingux*
2010-07-15 12:43 <rafa> Ornotermes: I asked you because we built a package for us. No the dingux version. So if you want those sources please tell us. For keys you will need to modify a few source code lines. No external config, sorry.
2010-07-15 12:44 <Ornotermes> well, why not, i can give it a try :)
2010-07-15 12:47 <rafa> http://jlime.com/downloads/repository/extra-packages/nanonote/
2010-07-15 12:47 <rafa> the sources under sources/ :) .. the binary uses the fileselector
2010-07-15 12:49 <Ornotermes> hope i manage to build it :P
2010-07-15 12:49 <rafa> perhaps you can try the ipk package first.. no idea if that will be compatible
2010-07-15 12:52 <Ornotermes> i try that first then :)
2010-07-15 12:54 <Ornotermes> didn't work
2010-07-15 12:56 <Ornotermes> http://pastebin.com/DZzKS04X
2010-07-15 12:58 <Ornotermes> (same errors on snes9x)
2010-07-15 12:59 <rafa> Ornotermes: but you tried to install gtkedit, no snes
2010-07-15 13:00 <rafa> ah.. you mean that packages are not compatible..
2010-07-15 13:00 <rafa> sorry
2010-07-15 13:00 <rafa> you will need to built your own snes9x then :)
2010-07-15 13:00 <Ornotermes> yes
2010-07-15 13:52 <Antaga> \_o<
2010-07-15 14:16 <himito> hi
2010-07-15 15:42 <Xakh> hey, you think it's possible to run quake mods on the nn version of quake?
2010-07-15 15:43 <Xakh> i have this sweet one from my android device, i kinda wanna run it on nn, though, it gets better framerates
2010-07-15 17:52 <urandom_> yeah seem like i finally got a working openwrt toolchain :)
2010-07-15 18:21 <rejon> open source hardware is not copyleft hardware. :)
2010-07-15 18:23 <calamarz> trying matchbox on debian... someone has a xorg.conf handy?
2010-07-15 18:24 <wpwrak> rejon: you mean due to the lack of a replicator ?
2010-07-15 20:19 <mth> larsc: actually jz_nand_ioremap_banks seems to be correct, but jz_nand_select_chip had me confused by using the variable "chipnr" for two different things
2010-07-15 20:21 <mth> maybe that's even the bug: since nand->bank_base is already in chip order rather than bank order, there is no need for jz_nand_select_chip to apply the indirection again
2010-07-15 20:23 <mth> JZ_NAND_CTRL_ASSERT_CHIP requires a 0-based bank nr instead of a chip nr though
2010-07-15 20:28 <larsc> i do have a fix. i'll commit it tomorrow
2010-07-15 20:28 <mth> ok, then I'll stop trying to fix it
2010-07-15 20:32 <wolfspraul> larsc: hey there
2010-07-15 20:33 <wolfspraul> Mirko Vogt told me you guys found out that the Sungale ID800WT picture frame has no drive IC at all?
2010-07-15 20:33 <wolfspraul> how can this work... What does the drive IC actually do?
2010-07-15 20:33 <wolfspraul> I am trying to visit Ilitek soon to learn more about drive ICs, but this news puzzled me a bit :-)
2010-07-15 20:34 <larsc> there is a controller, but its config is static.
2010-07-15 20:35 <wolfspraul> do you know who makes this controller?
2010-07-15 20:36 <larsc> innolux i would guess
2010-07-15 20:38 <larsc> on the other hand the one on the gpm module was made by ilitek. so i have no idea
2010-07-15 22:19 <ezdagor> Anyone know what lowlevel LCD driver the NanoNote uses?
2010-07-15 22:35 <kristianpaul> wait a min
2010-07-15 22:43 <ezdagor> Thanks.
2010-07-15 22:43 <ezdagor> The generic driver doesn't work. Graphical programs don't display the colors properly.
2010-07-15 22:48 <kristianpaul> ezdagor: i think is here http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/
2010-07-15 22:48 <kristianpaul> just digging