2010-07-14 00:11 <kristianpaul> xiangfu: done
2010-07-14 00:13 <xiangfu> kristianpaul: which project?
2010-07-14 00:14 <xiangfu> kristianpaul: sorry. I should let you know. we always put any ben issue to http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/ben-nanonote/issues/
2010-07-14 00:14 <xiangfu> kristianpaul: but it's ok.
2010-07-14 00:15 <xiangfu> kristianpaul: my fault :(
2010-07-14 00:19 <xiangfu> kristianpaul:  I will move it to ben-nanoote/issues/. is that ok?
2010-07-14 00:43 <xiangfu> kristianpaul: :) http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/ben-nanonote/issues/91/
2010-07-14 01:03 <kyak> xiangfu: hi
2010-07-14 01:04 <xiangfu> kyak: hi
2010-07-14 01:04 <kyak> xiangfu: uboot-xburst build fails because of absolute paths in package/uboot-xburst/files/board/xburst/nanonote/.depend and package/uboot-xburst/files/nand_spl/board/xburst/nanonote/.depend
2010-07-14 01:05 <kyak> yesterday i fixed it, but wasn't able to commit
2010-07-14 01:06 <kyak> if you wish, i can pass modified .depend files to you
2010-07-14 01:07 <xiangfu> kyak: I think we need remove that file ? right?
2010-07-14 01:07 <kyak> hm. maybe, i don't know. I ended up setting relative paths
2010-07-14 01:08 <xiangfu> kyak: this file is create by "make" I think.
2010-07-14 01:08 <xiangfu> kyak:  thanks for report bug.
2010-07-14 01:09 <kyak> so if this file already exists, it is not recreated?
2010-07-14 01:09 <kyak> otherwise, these paths would've been overwritten
2010-07-14 01:10 <kyak> xiangfu: no problem :) i'll try removing them now, see what happens
2010-07-14 01:11 <xiangfu> kyak: I think so. yes. let's see what happens.
2010-07-14 01:11 <xiangfu> kyak: compile fine here.
2010-07-14 01:16 <kyak> same here
2010-07-14 01:16 <kyak> so make games with sed were not necessary after all :)
2010-07-14 01:16 <kyak> *my games
2010-07-14 01:19 <xiangfu> kyak: ok. I will commit the patch .
2010-07-14 01:19 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [uboot-xburst] remove auto generate file. should not be in files/ folder http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/2b62ba4
2010-07-14 02:24 <qi-commits> bas: ne, the nice editor. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/bc9afd7
2010-07-14 02:37 <qi-commits> kyak: jfbterm - J Framebuffer Terminal http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d3db171
2010-07-14 02:40 <qi-commits> kyak: FbTerm, a fast FrameBuffer based TERMinal emulator for linux http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/e0a7e26
2010-07-14 03:26 <freespace> i don't suppose anyone here speaks spanish
2010-07-14 03:29 <tuxbrain_away> mala suposicion :)
2010-07-14 03:29 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [new package] [zhcon] double-byte console, mark as BROKEN http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/cf8fece
2010-07-14 03:29 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [new package] some unfinished package. mark as BROKEN http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a9090d6
2010-07-14 03:29 <freespace> so yes then tuxbrain ? :)
2010-07-14 03:29 <tuxbrain> mm I'm from spain so creo que algo sabre :P
2010-07-14 03:29 <freespace> hehe
2010-07-14 03:30 <freespace> suppose right now i have
2010-07-14 03:30 <freespace> "Hide ELs" = "Ocultar Lugares Estrategicos";
2010-07-14 03:30 <freespace> I have changed Hide to Show
2010-07-14 03:30 <freespace> what would be the correct translation for "Show ELs"
2010-07-14 03:31 <tuxbrain> Mostrar Lugares estrategicos
2010-07-14 03:31 <freespace> awesome, thanks
2010-07-14 03:31 <tuxbrain> but a little more of context should make translator live easier :P
2010-07-14 03:33 <freespace> /* hide EL settings string */
2010-07-14 03:33 <freespace> :P
2010-07-14 03:33 <freespace> i am terrible :(
2010-07-14 03:34 <freespace> this is the first time i had a program localized
2010-07-14 03:34 <tuxbrain> Ocultar cadenas de inicializacion de lugares estrategicos
2010-07-14 03:35 <freespace> google failed to translate that
2010-07-14 03:37 <tuxbrain> we are far to time where a machine can beat humans on humans things, and natural lenguage is the most human thing on earth, complicated, trillions of variants, full of execptions , and totally ambiguouse
2010-07-14 03:38 <freespace> nod
2010-07-14 03:38 <freespace> however, in a pinch, it is better than nothing :)
2010-07-14 03:38 <freespace> our mexican partners are asleep
2010-07-14 03:38 <freespace> so i can't poke them
2010-07-14 03:39 <tuxbrain> don't worry you can count on me for now
2010-07-14 03:39 <freespace> <3
2010-07-14 03:39 <freespace> apparently there is a difference between mexican spanish and spanish spanish
2010-07-14 03:40 <tuxbrain> yes :) talking about variants :P
2010-07-14 03:40 <freespace> :)
2010-07-14 03:41 <tuxbrain> even spanish spanish is different depending regions :)
2010-07-14 03:41 <freespace> yeah, i know how that is :) grew up in china
2010-07-14 03:42 <freespace> just between my parents and myself we speak 4 different dialects
2010-07-14 03:42 <freespace> and 2 of them effectively foreign to me
2010-07-14 03:42 <freespace> thankfully they don't share those 2, so they can't plot behind my back without me overhearing :P
2010-07-14 04:05 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [new package] [frotz] A Portable Z-Machine Interpreter http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/61b8c5c
2010-07-14 06:28 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [mcabber] add default configure file /root/.mcabber/mcabberrc http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/acfb7ef
2010-07-14 06:28 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [mcabber] add rpath-links to EXTRA_LDFLAGS http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/02e1c56
2010-07-14 06:28 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [fbterm] [jfbterm] always have + in DEBPENDS libs http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/cd9c84b
2010-07-14 06:28 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [new package] [mcabber] ncurses Jabber client port by Jirka http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b594e2d
2010-07-14 06:28 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [frotz] fix error when run install http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/0b668f9
2010-07-14 06:28 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [frotz] remove check root http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/35d9d9e
2010-07-14 09:19 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul:  unable to get a fix yet :(
2010-07-14 09:20 <tuxbrain> I also attached a bigger antenna to try this afternoon but then I have keyboard issues, I guess it's draining too much power
2010-07-14 09:44 <kristianpaul> tuxbrain: yes?
2010-07-14 09:44 <kristianpaul> too much, did you measure it?
2010-07-14 09:51 <kristianpaul> i did my first test outside all was good :)
2010-07-14 10:03 <tuxbrain> just guided by the simptoms, plugged keyboard stops reponding, unplugged it respond again.
2010-07-14 10:04 <tuxbrain> before I connect the bigger antenna no problem with keyboard
2010-07-14 10:21 <freespace> what module are you guys using?
2010-07-14 11:10 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [xburst] change default font to 6x11 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/7510b5a
2010-07-14 11:21 <kristianpaul> freespace: i'm using a sim548
2010-07-14 11:21 <kristianpaul> freespace: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/GPS
2010-07-14 11:21 <kristianpaul> the one tuxbrain is on the wiki too
2010-07-14 11:23 <kristianpaul> mine is kidn of big because gsm part wich i plan use for gprs in some apps maybe
2010-07-14 11:25 <wpwrak> i'm taking apart a ben for the first time unassisted. so far, i've removed four screws but the top still doesn't seem to want to come off. something in the middle near the lcm is still holding it. are there more screws or should i just pull a little harder ?
2010-07-14 11:26 <kristianpaul> i remenber well if crews are gone a little of force is rquired
2010-07-14 11:27 <rafa> wpwrak: I do not if I am following you but I think that speaker has glue on it, so the top is pasted to speaker
2010-07-14 11:27 <rafa> I do not know*
2010-07-14 11:27 <rafa> maybe is that?
2010-07-14 11:27 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: your opening lcm case or the other case?
2010-07-14 11:29 <rafa> http://www.openmobilefree.net/?p=504
2010-07-14 11:29 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: the main case, with main pcb, keyboard, etc.
2010-07-14 11:29 <rafa> it is the glue on speaker surely
2010-07-14 11:29 <kristianpaul> yes
2010-07-14 11:30 <wpwrak> rafa: looks like it. thanks !
2010-07-14 12:27 <freespace> neat
2010-07-14 12:28 <freespace> been wanting to get a gsm board
2010-07-14 12:28 <freespace> the only gps module i ever played with was some 50 job from sparkfun
2010-07-14 12:28 <freespace> would go nicely with the ben actually
2010-07-14 13:02 <kyak> someone else has problems bulding glib2 after feeds update?
2010-07-14 13:02 <larsc> what kind of error do you get?
2010-07-14 13:04 <kyak> checking for ngettext in -lintl... no
2010-07-14 13:04 <kyak> configure: error:
2010-07-14 13:04 <kyak> *** You must have either have gettext support in your C library, or use the
2010-07-14 13:04 <kyak> *** GNU gettext library. (http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html
2010-07-14 13:04 <larsc> hm
2010-07-14 13:05 <kyak> i agree
2010-07-14 13:05 <kyak> configure: WARNING: libintl.h: accepted by the compiler, rejected by the preprocessor!
2010-07-14 13:05 <kyak> this is written before
2010-07-14 13:06 <kyak> i tryed to rebuild a toolchain from scratch, but it didn't help
2010-07-14 13:10 <kristianpaul> freespace: link? from sparkfun
2010-07-14 16:24 <lekernel> haha, you discover the wonders of autocrap :)
2010-07-14 17:07 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: MIPS: jz4740: platform.c: Add memory region for NAND banks http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/0f05725
2010-07-14 17:07 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: MTD: nand: jz4740: Experimental multi-chip support http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/d6e96ef
2010-07-14 17:07 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: MTD: nand: jz4740: {Enable,Disable} NAND-chip in {probe,remove} http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/9df8a0f
2010-07-14 17:07 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: foo http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/a22eb24
2010-07-14 17:07 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: MTD: nand: jz4740: Make macros safe http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/254d0d29
2010-07-14 17:07 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: MTD: nand: jz4740: supply memory bank address through platform resource http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/1b3e64a
2010-07-14 17:07 <larsc> mth: -^  I doubt that it will work, though
2010-07-14 17:11 <mth> doubt it will work with the Dingoo or at all?
2010-07-14 17:11 <mth> by the way, the memory banks don't have a fixed address, there is an EMC register for each one
2010-07-14 17:14 <larsc> i know.
2010-07-14 17:14 <larsc> but those are the default values
2010-07-14 17:14 <larsc> and i doubt anyone will ever change them
2010-07-14 17:15 <mth> I considered moving the bank addresses around in select_chip, to avoid having the recalculate the read and write addr
2010-07-14 17:16 <mth> but since the assert bits cannot be moved around that would only have made things more confusing
2010-07-14 17:26 <Ornotermes> larsc: do you know if the hardware in bnn support finer volume control than 4 steps?
2010-07-14 17:26 <larsc> it can not
2010-07-14 17:27 <larsc> you need a software volume
2010-07-14 17:27 <Ornotermes> would be grate with a finer volume control
2010-07-14 17:30 <mth> by the way, I have experimental support for double buffering in the SLCD driver now
2010-07-14 17:30 <mth> it allows the use of SDL_HWSURFACE without flickering on overpaints
2010-07-14 17:31 <mth> maybe this is useful for the NN as well?
2010-07-14 17:37 <hallo99> /proc/cpuinfo on the nanonote says something about "AES implemented". Is there AES hardware accelartion in the jz4740?
2010-07-14 17:39 <larsc> no
2010-07-14 17:40 <larsc> cpuinfo says: "ASEs implemented        :
2010-07-14 17:40 <larsc> "
2010-07-14 17:43 <hallo99> too bad, AES accelariton would be helpfull for full crypto
2010-07-14 17:46 <mth> larsc: the commit that adds "banks" to the platform data seems to be missing
2010-07-14 17:46 <larsc> indeed
2010-07-14 17:52 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: Add missing part from commit d6e96efcb6163fb63b01f9ee861ffdee1f666e2e http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/6445d3a
2010-07-14 17:52 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: MIPS: jz4740: platform.c: Add memory region for NAND banks http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/89f1993
2010-07-14 17:58 <wpwrak> rafa: i found out what the fat down-arrow does: it's caps lock. HOW NICE. NOW YOU CAN HEAR ME !!!!111 :-)
2010-07-14 18:01 <mth> larsc: if I boot via USB, the driver works on a single chip Dingoo
2010-07-14 18:02 <mth> if I boot via u-boot though, it hangs before even showing the penguin
2010-07-14 18:02 <larsc> hm, interesting
2010-07-14 18:02 <larsc> i wonder why
2010-07-14 18:03 <mth> I'm going to try a clean build to make sure it's not some kind of time stamp mixup
2010-07-14 18:05 <mth> still happens with a clean build
2010-07-14 18:07 <mth> hmm, if I put return 1; at the very start of jz_nand_probe it still hangs
2010-07-14 18:08 <mth> I'll try an older kernel, maybe the SD card is the problem rather than the kernel itself
2010-07-14 18:09 <mth> yep, it's the card that has problems
2010-07-14 18:19 <mth> hmm, I did copy several PSX CD images onto the card to test psx4all
2010-07-14 18:19 <mth> is it possible u-boot cannot read beyond a certain sector?
2010-07-14 19:51 <rafa> wpwrak: haha :D
2010-07-14 21:30 <unclouded> has anyone got suggestions on the best way to photograph the NanoNote's screen?  I keep getting reflections of the camera in the screen
2010-07-14 21:50 <kristianpaul> unclouded: not photograh
2010-07-14 21:50 <kristianpaul> use fbgrab
2010-07-14 21:50 <kristianpaul> but from ssh
2010-07-14 21:50 <kristianpaul> so you can capture the screen on the nano
2010-07-14 21:56 <unclouded> kristianpaul: fbgrab doesn't give a true picture of what the screen looks like
2010-07-14 21:57 <kristianpaul> hm true
2010-07-14 21:57 <kristianpaul> well so.. try take picture in low light room
2010-07-14 21:57 <unclouded> I think I worked out at least one thing just now: use manual shutter speed
2010-07-14 21:57 <unclouded> otherwise the camera lets so much light in that the pixels have halos
2010-07-14 21:58 <unclouded> I tried 1/40th sec just now and it looks much better than any of the others I've taken
2010-07-14 22:04 <kristianpaul> http://home.earthlink.net/~cwkelley/receiver_operation.htm :O
2010-07-14 22:04 <kristianpaul> unclouded: nice
2010-07-14 22:05 <kristianpaul> i'll try with my cam later i also need pics from screen
2010-07-14 22:05 <unclouded> kristianpaul: if you find out some tips or tricks, could you pleas publish them: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Taking_good_photos
2010-07-14 22:09 <kristianpaul> sure
2010-07-14 22:10 <kristianpaul> unclouded: u posted to the mail list already?
2010-07-14 22:10 <kristianpaul> photos are relly important i must agree
2010-07-14 22:13 <unclouded> kristianpaul: I don't understand the question about the mail list
2010-07-14 22:15 <kristianpaul> i mean you should post the question about takeing pictures of the nanonote screen in the mail list too
2010-07-14 22:20 <unclouded> kristianpaul: oh I see. good idea
2010-07-14 22:51 <kristianpaul> xiangfu: ok thanks
2010-07-14 22:56 <xiangfu> kristianpaul: ?
2010-07-14 22:57 <freespace> kristianpaul: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=465
2010-07-14 22:57 <freespace> costs a bit mroe now
2010-07-14 22:57 <kristianpaul> xiangfu: move the bug
2010-07-14 23:00 <xiangfu> kristianpaul: you are welcome :)