2010-07-06 00:00 kristianpaul: I am very curious why you get always a lot of weird errors :D 2010-07-06 00:00 for me it works great after a fresh install, opkg update, opkg install gpsd tangogps 2010-07-06 05:05 Hi! 2010-07-06 05:06 any updates with native gcc on NN? 2010-07-06 05:06 dmarschal: what do you mean? 2010-07-06 05:07 I need gcc on my NN and not cross compile everything. 2010-07-06 05:07 dmarschal: you can use jlime 2010-07-06 05:07 it should have gcc and all the gnu compiler stuff 2010-07-06 05:07 oh that's cool! 2010-07-06 05:07 thanks! 2010-07-06 05:08 giving it a try... 2010-07-06 05:09 you need a SD 2010-07-06 05:13 dmarschal: you need to install a couple of packages for a complete gcc environment.. If you need help to know which packages just ping us 2010-07-06 05:13 yes, I have a gig sd and downloading the jlime images now 2010-07-06 05:14 okey 2010-07-06 05:14 dmarschal: do you have latest qi bootloader? 2010-07-06 05:14 yes, i do. I'm with the latest 06-17 openwrt os. 2010-07-06 05:15 downloading almost done. I'm going to partition the sd card 2010-07-06 05:15 okey, then you just need to do (on microSD) an ext2 partition and a little swap partition 2010-07-06 05:15 and untar all the stuff as root 2010-07-06 05:15 dl done. 2010-07-06 05:16 and don't forget the umount :) and for swap partition the mkswap 2010-07-06 05:16 and to put uImage on a FAT part 2010-07-06 05:16 no no 2010-07-06 05:17 if you have the latest bootloader from qi 2010-07-06 05:17 you just need an ext2 partition and swap 2010-07-06 05:17 you do not need fat 2010-07-06 05:17 ok. thanks 2010-07-06 05:17 it is just needed if you use previous bootloaders or bootloader fromjlime 2010-07-06 05:17 ok I see 2010-07-06 05:18 gparted is working... 2010-07-06 05:18 i left 134mb swap on the card 2010-07-06 05:19 okey 2010-07-06 05:20 remember to do the filesystem, tar -x ... umount.. all as root 2010-07-06 05:20 ok. I think tiat will be the easiest task for today (-: 2010-07-06 05:21 soo I will ask how to share wifi internet connection over usb 2010-07-06 05:21 soo/soon 2010-07-06 05:21 ;) 2010-07-06 05:22 where do you have wifi? 2010-07-06 05:22 on aigo mid / moblin and i have a fujitsu u810 with ubuntu 2010-07-06 05:25 if you mean to share wifi interner over usb for nn then on muffinman manual you can find the commands 2010-07-06 05:25 http://jlime.com/mw4/index.php/Jlime_Muffinman 2010-07-06 05:26 just that for iptables it says "eth0", you will need to use your wifi interface 2010-07-06 05:28 okay. thanks! seems you will bring life to my nn (((-: 2010-07-06 05:57 wow. jlime booted! very good work!!! 2010-07-06 06:00 noe the inet stuff 2010-07-06 06:00 ping works... 2010-07-06 06:04 i have problems with jlime terminal. i can't type numbers. seems the blue fn key doesn't work 2010-07-06 06:08 can we sometime in future expect a new nanonote with usb-host or wifi build in? 2010-07-06 06:20 numbers work. i figured out. also i found the solution in the help file 2010-07-06 06:22 internet routing works with eth0 interface only? i mean no chance to share wifi conn? 2010-07-06 06:34 oh 2010-07-06 06:34 he left 2010-07-06 06:45 how do i have to build a kernel? i only get "wrong image format for bootm command" 2010-07-06 06:45 my steps are at http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Gentoo-cross-compilation 2010-07-06 06:50 you need a uImage 2010-07-06 06:52 rafa: i did same 2010-07-06 06:52 hmm :/ 2010-07-06 06:52 just my Jlime-muffinman-image-2010.1-ben-nanonote.rootfs_READY.tar.gz is some weeks old 2010-07-06 06:53 Jun 26 2010-07-06 06:53 ubt fi you fot it running it make me rething what i did wrong :S 2010-07-06 07:12 rafa: thanks; think i found it. will check it later - work 2010-07-06 07:12 bye 2010-07-06 07:13 hmm i mean larsc ^^ 2010-07-06 07:20 now i have a ben :D 2010-07-06 07:55 hello 2010-07-06 07:57 wifi routing still not works. i followed the 'networking' and 'internet' steps on jlime.com 2010-07-06 07:58 i used '-o wlan0' with iptables 2010-07-06 08:10 finally i got it working. only if i share a wired (eth0) connection . 2010-07-06 08:27 dmarschal: me here 2010-07-06 08:28 hello rafa. i got it working. it is slow. 2010-07-06 08:28 now i'm trying 'opkg update' 2010-07-06 08:29 i got errors: couldn't resolve host name. i can ping jlime.com 2010-07-06 08:29 okey.. 2010-07-06 08:29 so now it is working right? 2010-07-06 08:30 ping works. opkg update doesn't work 2010-07-06 08:30 maybe the service is down?... let me check 2010-07-06 08:31 ok thanks 2010-07-06 08:31 is there any more distros for ben than openwrt, jlime and debian? 2010-07-06 08:31 dmarschal: it is working.. 2010-07-06 08:31 mhhh.. 2010-07-06 08:31 i try to wget something... 2010-07-06 08:32 dmarschal: aho.. 2010-07-06 08:32 no 2010-07-06 08:32 dmarschal: you are right! 2010-07-06 08:32 dmarschal: sorry.. Let me talk with the guy who should know what to fix 2010-07-06 08:32 dmarschal: servers is not working it seems. 2010-07-06 08:33 oh i almost typed the full path to the gcc package (-: 2010-07-06 08:33 strange 2010-07-06 08:33 dmarschal: I can wget  http://jlime.com/downloads/repository/muffinman/ipk/mipsel//Packages 2010-07-06 08:33 from nn 2010-07-06 08:34 but no with opkg update 2010-07-06 08:34 dmarschal: you need to install several package 2010-07-06 08:34 so better we fix first the problem with opkg :) 2010-07-06 08:34 with opkg? 2010-07-06 08:35 i mean i have to install paskages with opks 2010-07-06 08:35 dmarschal: yes, the complete compiler environment needs .. headers.. make, gcc, symlinks binutils 2010-07-06 08:35 etc 2010-07-06 08:35 dmarschal: it is working now 2010-07-06 08:35 dmarschal: Can you try again? 2010-07-06 08:35 opkg update 2010-07-06 08:35 trying... 2010-07-06 08:36 it writes: dowloading http..... 2010-07-06 08:36 wait for a while 2010-07-06 08:37 the packages file index is a little big 2010-07-06 08:37 ok waiting. i'm compiling mplayer on my zipit so i must be patient. (-: 2010-07-06 08:38 error: couldn't resolve host name 2010-07-06 08:38 bah.. 2010-07-06 08:38 dmarschal: it is some server error.. 2010-07-06 08:38 please re try 2010-07-06 08:39 dmarschal: can you try ? 2010-07-06 08:39 wget  http://jlime.com/downloads/repository/muffinman/ipk/mipsel//Packages 2010-07-06 08:39 from nn? 2010-07-06 08:39 ok i try 2010-07-06 08:40 resolving jlime.com 2010-07-06 08:41 failed: temporary failure in name resolution 2010-07-06 08:42 ping works? 2010-07-06 08:42 it must be some failure with the cabling or the way i set up network 2010-07-06 08:42 i can wget the file from the host (wlan sharing) machine 2010-07-06 08:43 dmarschal: sorry man.. the server should work ok 2010-07-06 08:43 919k/s 2.9mb file 2010-07-06 08:43 is not the usb cable with problems? 2010-07-06 08:43 or is it on some internal usb hub? 2010-07-06 08:43 yes, the server is ok! the fault is on my side. i tried four cables 2010-07-06 08:44 :( 2010-07-06 08:44 ping works always? 2010-07-06 08:44 from nn to google.com or jlime.com? 2010-07-06 08:47 yes, both works 2010-07-06 08:49 dmarschal: then something no very stable perhaps.. like you says.. cable.. or something like that .. 2010-07-06 08:49 try again please wget from nn 2010-07-06 08:49 wget http://jlime.com/downloads/repository/muffinman/ipk/mipsel//Packages 2010-07-06 08:49 ok wget works 2010-07-06 08:50 280kb/sec average 2010-07-06 08:50 now it stopped )-: 2010-07-06 08:50 i think the weakest spot is my fujitsu u1010 that shares eth0 2010-07-06 08:50 maybe 2010-07-06 08:51 because it looks like your config is okey.. 2010-07-06 08:51 but something is not stable 2010-07-06 08:57 dmarschal: anyway.. when you get a stable internet.. the packages that you would like to install are : 2010-07-06 08:57 opkg install binutils binutils-symlinks gcc gcc-symlinks make g++ g++-symlinks libgcc1 li 2010-07-06 08:57 bstdc++6 libstdc++-dev cpp linux-libc-headers-de 2010-07-06 08:57 ok. i found the problem. 2010-07-06 08:57 With those you can start build any package 2010-07-06 08:57 thank you for your help! 2010-07-06 08:58 dmarschal: I installed all of them in the same opkg install command 2010-07-06 08:58 i have to "ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.200" every 3 minute or else the machine drops connection 2010-07-06 08:58 3 secons 2010-07-06 08:58 3 second 2010-07-06 08:58 no worries if the installation says "can not get reccommendation package" or something like that 2010-07-06 08:58 ah.. 2010-07-06 08:58 okey 2010-07-06 09:00 dmarschal: well, if you get a stable internet then try again opkg update first 2010-07-06 09:00 i ran into another problem. 2010-07-06 09:01 when i type any character that needs 'red up key' combination, it messes up the command line 2010-07-06 09:03 dmarschal: are you doing all that stuff from terminal? 2010-07-06 09:03 :) 2010-07-06 09:03 press red key again 2010-07-06 09:03 yes i'm running everything from terminal and from nn 2010-07-06 09:04 dmarschal: why no you do a ssh from laptop or pc to nn 2010-07-06 09:04 and work from there 2010-07-06 09:04 the keyboard laptop should be comfortable 2010-07-06 09:04 dmarschal: anyway, 2010-07-06 09:04 check the muffinman wiki .. it says something about red key. Well, let me paste : 2010-07-06 09:04 Note: on terminal after you press "red arrow" it keeps a "mode" which is not useful for letters. If you press it (for example to write a number) press it again to quit that odd mode. We will try to fix it soon. 2010-07-06 09:06 yes i checkd the manual and when i type "echo eeeaaa" then it works fine. 2010-07-06 09:06 when i type "echo eee-ssss" then it does nothing 2010-07-06 09:06 dmarschal: if you press red arrow again... no it comes let you again to type letters? 2010-07-06 09:06 can you try it? 2010-07-06 09:07 dmarschal: I mean.. you press read arrow + "-" right? 2010-07-06 09:07 i cna type letters without problem but when i press enter to execute the command line it does nothing. if all i typed earlier was an empty line 2010-07-06 09:08 ahh 2010-07-06 09:08 weird 2010-07-06 09:08 so that;s why i'm worried about installing binutils-symlinks 2010-07-06 09:09 because the typed "-" character will zero the command line 2010-07-06 09:09 dmarschal: weird 2010-07-06 09:09 but you can do it : 2010-07-06 09:09 echo 'eee-ssss" 2010-07-06 09:09 sorry 2010-07-06 09:09 echo 'eee-ssss' 2010-07-06 09:09 did it work? 2010-07-06 09:09 yes 2010-07-06 09:09 oh )-: 2010-07-06 09:10 dmarschal: but with ' 2010-07-06 09:10 without ' marks it did not work for me.. was empty 2010-07-06 09:10 but that is something of echo in sh perhaps 2010-07-06 09:10 with the ' mark it shows me well 2010-07-06 09:10 the eee-ssss 2010-07-06 09:11 yes it works with ' 2010-07-06 09:15 rafa: thank you for your help! 2010-07-06 09:15 okey 2010-07-06 09:15 i have to check cables and my ubuntu machine first. 2010-07-06 09:15 you are welcome ;) 2010-07-06 09:30 dmarschal: please, let me know when you fix the opkg update problem 2010-07-06 09:31 and install the ...   binutils binutils-symlinks gcc gcc-symlinks make g++ g++-symlinks libgcc1 libstdc++6 libstdc++-dev cpp linux-libc-headers-dev 2010-07-06 09:31 packages 2010-07-06 09:34 ok, I will! I'm still working on the connection. 2010-07-06 09:53 rafa: when wasthe las time you updated jlime userland? 2010-07-06 09:53 and did you read my pastebin about installing qt4 2010-07-06 09:54 kristianpaul: last time is the time in wiki.. let me check (download section) 2010-07-06 09:54 i think something nis not right here i got the messages from opkg in wich the packages is not int he repo, but is there.. 2010-07-06 09:54 which package? 2010-07-06 09:54 rafa: maybe i have an old one, and my lasiness avoidme check new one 2010-07-06 09:55 kristianpaul: from http://jlime.com/mw4/index.php/Jlime_Muffinman, latest version is 28-Jun-2010 2010-07-06 09:55 rafa: is related to qt4 2010-07-06 09:55 hmm 2010-07-06 09:55 kristianpaul: ah.. okey. It is not related with the rootfs 2010-07-06 09:55 i have 26 Jun 2010-07-06 09:55 it is just the repo 2010-07-06 09:55 but 2010-07-06 09:55 i',, like see pyqt4 2010-07-06 09:56 okey, let me see if I understand.. you see the package on repo but it is not found for opkg right? 2010-07-06 09:56 yes 2010-07-06 09:56 i found using opkg list| grep foo 2010-07-06 09:57 that is possible. Package indexes are consistent with the build environment.. so some packages could be there but they are not okey to install. Package indexes have only packages which are consistent with the whole repo 2010-07-06 09:57 ah ok 2010-07-06 09:57 kristianpaul: That could be the reason like you see the package but opkg does not find it 2010-07-06 09:57 cause i just get it and installed by hand 2010-07-06 09:57 kristianpaul: I can try to fix that 2010-07-06 09:57 ok 2010-07-06 09:58 kristianpaul: but latest rootfs version is the one from here : http://jlime.com/mw4/index.php/Jlime_Muffinman 2010-07-06 09:58 and you can check the date of latest there 2010-07-06 09:58 i will 2010-07-06 09:59 i really want see tangogps 2010-07-06 09:59 is it slow in toyur nano? 2010-07-06 09:59 kristianpaul: tangogps installs okey 2010-07-06 10:00 kristianpaul: no idea.. I just ran it twice just to test that it runs.. I see the map 2010-07-06 10:00 and few big buttons 2010-07-06 10:00 then I ran ALT+F4 to exit 2010-07-06 10:00 oh  good :) 2010-07-06 10:00 okay fetching last userland now to avoif my weirdnesss ;) 2010-07-06 10:01 rafa: btw are you fpga devel related guy? 2010-07-06 10:02 i think the guys from fpga libre arefrom argentina not sure about it 2010-07-06 10:04 kristianpaul: I am not a fpga devel or part of fpga libre.. But I am interested.. Do you know those guys? 2010-07-06 10:04 kristianpaul: let me check if they have a web site 2010-07-06 10:05 they have in sf.net 2010-07-06 10:06 reading right now .. looks like a lot of stuff.. Cool! 2010-07-06 10:06 i dont i wish 2010-07-06 10:07 oh nanomap is already in openwrt-xburst repo inst? 2010-07-06 10:07 and have gpsd client  good ! 2010-07-06 10:34 wow http://www.epiq-solutions.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome 2010-07-06 10:34 so small so expensive ... :'( 2010-07-06 12:03 can someone remind me how to disable the openwrt boot logo? 2010-07-06 12:07 kyak: 2010-07-06 12:07 device drivers --> graphics support 2010-07-06 12:07 --> bootup logo 2010-07-06 12:08 is it in make menuconfig? 2010-07-06 12:09 make kernel_menuconfig 2010-07-06 12:10 what I dunno still is how to enable debug info output to console while booting :/ 2010-07-06 12:14 calamarz: thanks, let's give it a try.. 2010-07-06 12:14 calamarz: do you get a black screen when you disable the openwrt boot logo? 2010-07-06 12:20 rafa: yes, until the login prompt appears. 2010-07-06 12:21 well, most of the times it is a boot options 2010-07-06 12:22 but I guess you should be able to specify it at compile time as well 2010-07-06 12:22 it's called quiet mode in most kernels, I can tell you that 2010-07-06 12:22 but that's about it 2010-07-06 12:23 calamarz: maybe it is the bootloader sending the whole stuff to serial 2010-07-06 12:23 calamarz: do you have the latest qi bootloader? 2010-07-06 12:27 rafa: I think I don't... will try to update 2010-07-06 12:28 bartbes: how do I change boot options that uboot passes to the kernel? 2010-07-06 12:37 i just disabled the boot logo and see all the messages, calamarz 2010-07-06 12:41 calamarz: yeah, the bootloader is the thing that you need to update (for kernel messages on screen) 2010-07-06 12:44 thanks... i'll try when I arrive home :) 2010-07-06 13:58 y halo thar 2010-07-06 18:14 which branche should i use for kernel? 2010-07-06 18:14 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/qi-kernel/source/tree/master/ 2010-07-06 18:14 first just for testing and booting 2010-07-06 18:32 sid__: jz-2.6.34 is kept up-to-date, so I'd recommend that one 2010-07-06 20:38 hi, can someone check out http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Gentoo-cross-compilation kernel section 2010-07-06 20:39 gentoo base system is now compiling (gcc is still but will hopefuly do it without problems) ;-) 2010-07-06 20:40 good night 2010-07-06 21:46 wait 2010-07-06 21:46 no 2010-07-06 21:46 why? 2010-07-06 21:46 root@BenNanoNote:~# cat /dev/ttyS1 2010-07-06 21:46 cat: read error: Input/output error 2010-07-06 21:46 ah? 2010-07-06 21:50 xiangfu: hello 2010-07-06 21:50 what i need to to enable  /dev/ttyS1 with uboot? 2010-07-06 21:51 Input/output error bad :( 2010-07-06 21:51 kristianpaul: we can not use ttyS1 with jz4720 2010-07-06 21:51 ah? 2010-07-06 21:51 so TP5/4? 2010-07-06 21:51 oh no :( 2010-07-06 21:52 kristianpaul: TP4/5 is another pin of S0 2010-07-06 21:52 ah 2010-07-06 21:52 so is always dev/ttySO ? 2010-07-06 21:52 yes 2010-07-06 21:52 but is really TP4/TP5? 2010-07-06 21:53 but not when boot power button + S 2010-07-06 21:53 when the serial port under the battery works? 2010-07-06 21:53 i'm right? 2010-07-06 21:54 yes. the tp4/tp5 will always as /dev/ttyS0. 2010-07-06 21:55 oh you save me lots of rading i dont know why i was confused 2010-07-06 21:55 power button + S will only enable the serial port under the battery. 2010-07-06 21:55 xiangfu: :) 2010-07-06 21:55 :D 2010-07-06 21:56 thats why i dint worked.. (all those ours lost) 2010-07-06 21:56 s/ours/hours 2010-07-06 21:59 xiangfu: http://paste.debian.net/79852/ 2010-07-06 21:59 why?? 2010-07-06 22:05 wait . let me test in my nanonote. 2010-07-06 22:05 sure 2010-07-06 22:12 kristianpaul: I guess there is terminal connect to the /dev/ttyS0 in OpenWrt 2010-07-06 22:12 ahh 2010-07-06 22:12 bad 2010-07-06 22:13 edit /etc/initab then? 2010-07-06 22:14 kristianpaul: we need edit kernel command line 2010-07-06 22:14 where? 2010-07-06 22:15 kristianpaul: it's in u-boot. 2010-07-06 22:15 oh 2010-07-06 22:15 i'm not there too ;) 2010-07-06 22:15 lots of code to read 2010-07-06 22:16 openwrt-xburst/package/uboot-xburst/files/include/configs/qi_lb60.h: line 8 :) 2010-07-06 22:18 ok time i need but i'll look 2010-07-06 22:19 sure 2010-07-06 22:35 weird 2010-07-06 22:35 ops