2010-06-13 03:42 rafa: lovely splash screen :) 2010-06-13 03:43 wolfspraul: thanks for your information, will be waiting for the update impatiently :) 2010-06-13 03:43 good to know you are reading logs, too :) 2010-06-13 03:47 rafa:it's taking ages to download "opkg update" 2010-06-13 03:48 but seems is not hung, now after mipsel time to all 2010-06-13 03:48 ok done 2010-06-13 03:48 lets see 2010-06-13 03:54 kyak: how is it now? still feel unstable/screen flickering/etc? 2010-06-13 03:55 the screen flickering should be stable, in the sense that it always flickers the same way, more pronounced in gmenu2x than in console 2010-06-13 03:55 that's a simple bug, and it will be fixed 2010-06-13 03:55 then you also said you don't like the finish/paint on the device? 2010-06-13 03:57 keep us posted... 2010-06-13 04:01 wolfspraul: sure, the display is still flickering, i hope it will be fixed 2010-06-13 04:03 i think the finish/paint is ok; i was talking that a case (housing) itself and a keyboard get greasy very fast 2010-06-13 04:05 i'm not using it much directly now, mainly via ssh.. so it's not so noticable. 2010-06-13 04:06 ok 2010-06-13 04:06 do you plan to do any hacking? if you build from source maybe you can try the new 2.6.34 kernel already, it should have a flickering fix but I haven't tried it yet... 2010-06-13 04:06 or just wait a few days, I think a new OpenWrt image is around the corner 2010-06-13 04:09 i have a lot of plans :) but the priority is getting the Wi-Fi working.. WEP wasn't a problem, but WPA wasn't so easy.. 2010-06-13 04:11 but i have the working toolchain, so maybe i'll do it :) 2010-06-13 04:13 is WPA working now? 2010-06-13 04:14 not yet 2010-06-13 04:15 i'm trying with wpa_supplicant, it gives me "authentication timeout" 2010-06-13 04:15 though it associates ok 2010-06-13 04:16 i'm following http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_in_Nanonote, but i also tryed a wpa_supplicant.conf from my linux laptop 2010-06-13 04:16 i think there ar alternatives, like xsupplicant and wpad 2010-06-13 04:16 i might try them 2010-06-13 04:17 I think others got wpa to work already, but not sure who it was 2010-06-13 04:17 tuxbrain: ? 2010-06-13 04:17 ? what? 2010-06-13 04:18 trying Jlime here :) 2010-06-13 04:19 tuxbrain: have you got WPA working? 2010-06-13 04:20 not sorry my wifi tests where just on open networks 2010-06-13 04:21 i have a bunch of [ 2104.540000] /home/mvogt/openwrt-xburst.image/build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/ks7010/ks7010_sdio.c:ks_sdio_interrupt[651] in dmesg, should i worry? 2010-06-13 04:21 it is when i insert the wifi card 2010-06-13 04:21 and also [ 2104.500000] jz4740-mmc jz4740-mmc.0: Sparse irq: 80 2010-06-13 04:22 I think the guy we are searching for is Javier 2010-06-13 04:23 !seen Javier 2010-06-13 04:23 wow... really impressed with the battery in nn. doing a voltage monitoring, and dropped to 3.7 after 11 hours idle. 2010-06-13 04:24 i love the battery compatibility list.. i have three spare batteries from my old Nokias :) 2010-06-13 04:25 i'm like a batteries baron 2010-06-13 04:25 kyak: hes now very disconnected, I will try to reach him by mail 2010-06-13 04:25 tuxbrain: this would be great 2010-06-13 04:26 kyak, send me a mail, maybe it will be easy he reply to a mail than connecting to channel 2010-06-13 04:28 what your e-mail? 2010-06-13 04:28 tuxbrain@tuxbrain.com? :) 2010-06-13 04:28 in order to have acpi power info is it enough with enabling it in the kernel, or...? 2010-06-13 04:28 this is one of them but better send it to david@tuxbrain.com 2010-06-13 04:29 tuxbrain: i will do.. i'll collect wpa_supplicant and dmesg logs and send it to you 2010-06-13 04:29 ok 2010-06-13 04:29 calamarz: have a look at /sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent 2010-06-13 04:31 kyak: yes, thanks... that's where i'm logging from in a cron. but was wondering if acpi support (for using powertop, for instance) would be so simple as enabling it in the kernel or is needed something else 2010-06-13 04:32 hey dudes, I've been out of the nanonote news cycle for about a week. What have I missed? 2010-06-13 04:34 xakh: you missed my happyness when I received it :D 2010-06-13 04:34 haha! 2010-06-13 04:34 it's pretty damn awesome huh? 2010-06-13 04:34 you got Quake working on it yet? 2010-06-13 04:35 hum... not tried... not a gamer guy :p 2010-06-13 04:35 heh. 2010-06-13 04:36 but gmu really got me... I'm trying to make debian package now 2010-06-13 04:36 lol nice. 2010-06-13 04:36 hey, you have debian on it? 2010-06-13 04:36 yep 2010-06-13 04:36 have you got X working? 2010-06-13 04:36 xakh jlime is out :) and we (well rafa) achieved to play videos :) 2010-06-13 04:36 what's jlime? 2010-06-13 04:36 wait VIDEO?! 2010-06-13 04:36 holy crap that's awesome! 2010-06-13 04:36 I yes in jlime, a OE based distro 2010-06-13 04:36 oh god I have to try that :p 2010-06-13 04:37 OE=Open Embedded 2010-06-13 04:37 look at the irclogs 2010-06-13 04:37 ooooooh. 2010-06-13 04:37 I have to update my nano one of these days. 2010-06-13 04:38 hey 2010-06-13 04:38 the link to the demoÂ Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Uf6khg3Mg 2010-06-13 04:39 is there any way to take the cursor buttons and turn it into a mouse of sorts? 2010-06-13 04:39 and that is awesome, video on a nano. 2010-06-13 04:39 also, I'm looking up extremely tiny window managers 2010-06-13 04:39 http://nickgravgaard.com/windowlab/ 2010-06-13 04:39 this one is pretty cool 2010-06-13 04:40 xakh: I'm exploring fb utils yet... have to try ratpoison in the nn 2010-06-13 04:40 hmm 2010-06-13 04:40 I don't particularly like ratpoison. 2010-06-13 04:40 I want something with a bit more flash. 2010-06-13 04:41 like LXDE 2010-06-13 04:42 http://flwm.sourceforge.net/ 2010-06-13 04:42 hm 2010-06-13 04:42 this one is really cool 2010-06-13 04:46 xakh: mmm just guessing, but... could this do it? --> http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/joystick.4.html 2010-06-13 04:46 look for "will map the first and third axis: 2010-06-13 04:46 er, w/o the ":" 2010-06-13 04:46 perfect! 2010-06-13 04:48 I'd really love to see matchbox on this 2010-06-13 05:18 holy cow! the rumours were true... this thing actually can play video :p 2010-06-13 05:40 tuxbrain_away: i just sent you the e-mail 2010-06-13 05:41 maybe Javier could help.. but i'll be trying from my side 2010-06-13 05:50 could sb allow .ods in the qi wiki? 2010-06-13 06:00 Are there any curses-based or GUI contact managers available for the nanonote? Storing names, addresses and phone numbers would be useful 2010-06-13 06:02 rafa:need python-gobject in the repos to make gourmet work :) , I would like to have some recipies at hand in the kitchen :) 2010-06-13 06:29 xdpirate: there is abook, but it needs minimum terminal size of 70x20 2010-06-13 06:30 xdpirate: maybe it would do it with some tweaking for displaying less stuff 2010-06-13 06:30 xdpirate: also tried some generic todo stuff like tudu or tina 2010-06-13 06:31 don't know if with fbterm could get a smaller font... 2010-06-13 07:07 calamarz: will add .ods to allowed wiki uploads momentarily... 2010-06-13 07:12 calamarz: added .ods, can you try to upload? 2010-06-13 07:22 tuxbrain_away: with OPEN Wi-Fi there is a 50 % packet loss (seen very clean with ping). I don't like these messages from ks7010, there might be some problems related to interrupts 2010-06-13 07:22 *messages from ks7010 driver 2010-06-13 07:24 i think this packet loss is the reason why i can't authenticate with WPA (it requires 4-way handshake) 2010-06-13 07:24 but let's see what Javier's opinion will be 2010-06-13 07:30 wolfspraul: uploaded ods battery dataset to http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Battery_Monitoring#Datasets... 2010-06-13 08:44 I have good news and bad news.Â Â Good news: I compiled Linux natively on Debian.Â Â Bad news: the image is too large (> 4MB). 2010-06-13 08:45 Compiled Linux on Debian? As in, you compiled a linux kernel on the nanonote? =P 2010-06-13 08:45 yes 2010-06-13 08:45 Ah, nice one mate :) 2010-06-13 08:45 took a night, but worked 2010-06-13 08:46 wow, congratulations 2010-06-13 08:46 how can we increase the 4 MB kernel limit?// 2010-06-13 08:46 wolfspraul: Erm, you mean the 2 MB limit. 2010-06-13 08:46 I don't really understand why it could get so large. 2010-06-13 08:47 I used the .config from the OpenWRT kernel build dir. 2010-06-13 08:49 well, any limit that is in the way. sounds like 2 or 4, maybe too small... 2010-06-13 08:50 It would be possible to change the NAND partitioning, but that doesn't seem to be the best solution. 2010-06-13 08:50 I'd better outsource some features as modules. 2010-06-13 08:58 Ah, OK, it didn't actually compress the image. 2010-06-13 09:13 Beware, though: there's no chance without swap. 2010-06-13 09:29 i don't quite understand how 'make menuconfig' and 'make kernel-menuconfig' at the end come together 2010-06-13 09:30 for example, do disable mmc driver i have to do kernel-menuconfig, because it is not available in make menuconfig 2010-06-13 09:30 kernel_menuconfig it is 2010-06-13 09:31 the thing is, i'm trying to throw away mmc driver, it seems that mmc driver and ks7010 are not playing together nicely 2010-06-13 09:32 they are both compiled in kernel.. at first i will compile ks7010 as a module 2010-06-13 09:33 at least it was compiled as module, as described in Wi-Fi page on wiki 2010-06-13 09:36 hm ok.. it's already as module /etc/modules.d/10-ks7010 2010-06-13 10:07 Hi kyak 2010-06-13 10:10 xiangfu: hi 2010-06-13 10:18 kyak:Â Â the kernel-module in the "make kernel_menuconfig" only compile as module. 2010-06-13 10:19 kyak: sorryÂ Â s/kernel_menuconfig/menuconfig, I mean the openwrt's menuconfig 2010-06-13 10:20 xiangfu: yep, i already understood. * only means "include in rootfs", right? 2010-06-13 10:20 kyak: yes. 2010-06-13 10:20 while 'M' means "build a separate pacakge" 2010-06-13 10:21 yes 2010-06-13 10:21 may i have another question then.. 2010-06-13 10:21 kyak: ok :) 2010-06-13 10:22 what is the .config file that is found in a root after cloning the git repository? should i use http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/latest/config instead of it? 2010-06-13 10:24 kyak: the .config file is generate by "scripts/kconfig.pl". it will merge three config files. 2010-06-13 10:25 1. target/linux/generic-2.6/config-2.6.32 2010-06-13 10:25 2. target/linux/xburst/config-2.6.32 2010-06-13 10:26 3. target/linux/xburst/qi_lb60/config-2.6.32 2010-06-13 10:27 ok, i mean, should i use .config file from the latest official software which was released or the .config file that is found after git cloning the repo? 2010-06-13 10:27 kyak: oh. sorry. I though you are talk about kernel .config. you are right. 2010-06-13 10:27 kyak: you are right. use the latest/config instead of it. 2010-06-13 10:28 your information is useful anyway :) 2010-06-13 10:28 kyak: :-) 2010-06-13 10:28 but what if there are changes in git, that don't exist yet in latest official .config? 2010-06-13 10:29 like some new module/package added/removed? 2010-06-13 10:31 kyak: then we must run "make menuconfig" to update local .config file. 2010-06-13 10:34 i see, thanks :) 2010-06-13 10:34 kyak: one thing before run "make menuconfig", run "./scripts/feeds update -a && ./scripts/feeds install -a" to update package list 2010-06-13 10:34 sure, already did it 2010-06-13 10:36 kyak: are you try to compiling the whole openwrt now? 2010-06-13 10:37 xiangfu: yes 2010-06-13 10:38 kyak: great. :) 2010-06-13 10:39 at first i'll try it with the latest/config.. see how WiFi will work there 2010-06-13 10:41 compiles Linux natively again. 2010-06-13 10:41 Something was broken. 2010-06-13 10:42 Some stupid question 2010-06-13 10:42 sdschulze: how much memory is used when you do native compiling? 2010-06-13 10:42 How do I physically remove the SD card from the slot. 2010-06-13 10:42 kyak: more than 32MB, at least. 2010-06-13 10:42 Using my SD card for swap. 2010-06-13 10:43 you press it in to remove it:) 2010-06-13 10:43 tried that 2010-06-13 10:43 push it in 2010-06-13 10:43 i have to do it with my nail 2010-06-13 11:54 tuxbrain_away: let me check why is not python-gobject into repos, if no I will put it in extra-packages ;) 2010-06-13 12:14 a question: after re-flashing ben, data from ubi1:data will be lost? 2010-06-13 12:18 another question: after building from git, can i skip flashing bootloader (and only flash kernel and rootfs)? 2010-06-13 12:25 tuxbrain_away: http://jlime.com/downloads/repository/extra-packages/nanonote/python-pygobject_2.14.2-r3_mipsel.ipk 2010-06-13 12:33 kyak, yes ubi data will be lost, and yes, no need to reflash bootloader, only kernel/rootfs 2010-06-13 12:34 allrighty, thanks xdpirate 2010-06-13 12:34 nps 2010-06-13 13:35 still compiling... :) 2010-06-13 13:37 xdpirate: fyi, the data partition is not erased 2010-06-13 13:38 so i just did "ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 3; mkdir /data; mount -t ubifs ubi1:data /data/" and all my files from data partition magically re-appeared :) 2010-06-13 13:38 not when flashing kernel but when flashing rootfs 2010-06-13 13:38 i flashed kernel+rootfs 2010-06-13 13:38 D: 2010-06-13 13:39 BTW, does the standard uboot image contain "quiet" in its kernel cmdline? 2010-06-13 13:40 because the kernel from pyneo isn't very verbose 2010-06-13 13:40 root@BenNanoNote:~# cat /proc/cmdline 2010-06-13 13:40 mem=32M console=ttyS0,57600n8 ubi.mtd=2 rootfstype=ubifs root=ubi0:rootfs rw rootwait 2010-06-13 13:40 sdschulze: for you :) 2010-06-13 13:41 ah, OK, could've done that myself :) 2010-06-13 13:42 So it doesn't print anything on screen because of the "console=" stuff? 2010-06-13 13:42 sure :) 2010-06-13 13:43 that wasn't for your latest messa\ge 2010-06-13 13:43 what do you want it to print on screen? 2010-06-13 13:43 what it's doing, it it panics, oopses, whatever 2010-06-13 13:43 *if 2010-06-13 13:45 hm 2010-06-13 13:46 why is /etc/profile when i build from git is different from /etc/profile from official release? 2010-06-13 13:46 in needs this SDL fix 2010-06-13 13:48 dreams of a GRUB port. 2010-06-13 13:51 what do you need it for? 2010-06-13 14:07 can anyone compile ne for me? i'm on my windows pc right now, and the compile should be painless 2010-06-13 14:07 What's ne? 2010-06-13 14:07 would be greatly appreciated 2010-06-13 14:07 ne, the nice editor 2010-06-13 14:07 hey, anybody of the imgv-project here? 2010-06-13 14:07 curses-based text editor :) 2010-06-13 14:08 compile for what architecture? 2010-06-13 14:08 for the ben 2010-06-13 14:08 mips 2010-06-13 14:08 if anyone feels like helping - http://ne.dsi.unimi.it/ne-2.1.tar.gz :) 2010-06-13 14:09 I currently run Debian there -- is static linking OK? 2010-06-13 14:09 sure mate =) 2010-06-13 14:12 what prefix? 2010-06-13 14:12 oh, OK, doesn't seem to be hardcoded in the binary 2010-06-13 14:12 mipsel-linux-uclibc- 2010-06-13 14:14 no, I mean as in /usr/local 2010-06-13 14:15 I will link statically anyway, so the uclibc doesn't matter. 2010-06-13 14:16 Maybe someone else is faster doing a cross-compile. 2010-06-13 14:16 I'm not good at that. 2010-06-13 14:16 i'm rather new to C, compiling and makefiles tbh :p 2010-06-13 14:17 but yeah when you statically compile you don't need a prefix, cos all libs are in the binary? 2010-06-13 14:17 You need a prefix if you have application data. 2010-06-13 14:18 oh, you mean where the app will save its config and data? 2010-06-13 14:18 i keep that in /root 2010-06-13 14:19 which is also my home folder 2010-06-13 14:20 It doesn't seem to have any application data. 2010-06-13 14:20 aha 2010-06-13 14:20 :) 2010-06-13 14:22 [it takes a while] 2010-06-13 14:22 hehe no problems mate 2010-06-13 14:28 32 MB of RAM don't really make it a good building environment... 2010-06-13 14:29 hahah x] 2010-06-13 14:30 wants GRUB/LILO so he can tri-boot jlime, debian and openwrt 2010-06-13 14:31 too 2010-06-13 14:31 GRUB with ubifs support would be ideal 2010-06-13 14:32 dual boot debian/openwrt would be enough though :) 2010-06-13 14:32 yeah 2010-06-13 14:34 this looks promising - http://culot.org/calcurse/ 2010-06-13 14:34 i wonder if that's usable on the ben 2010-06-13 14:39 compilation done 2010-06-13 14:40 awesome :D 2010-06-13 14:41 http://sdschulze.dnsalias.org/~soeren/ne-bin.tar.gz 2010-06-13 14:41 Thanks a bunch, mate! :D 2010-06-13 14:41 cheers at sdschulze 2010-06-13 14:41 hope this will work 2010-06-13 14:42 natively compiled :) 2010-06-13 14:42 Now I can resume building Linux. 2010-06-13 14:42 :D 2010-06-13 14:52 Does it work? 2010-06-13 14:56 haven't tested it yet, will do in a bit 2010-06-13 14:56 btw is there a precompiled or ipk package for man? reading manual pages on the unit would be helpful 2010-06-13 14:57 i just realized there was none preinstalled :P 2010-06-13 15:00 sdschulze, doesn't seem to work, it just hangs =/ 2010-06-13 15:03 :( 2010-06-13 15:03 Can you do an strace on it? 2010-06-13 15:04 sure sec 2010-06-13 15:08 sdschulze, http://pastebin.com/9twcD7mw 2010-06-13 15:11 That's all?Â Â Strange. 2010-06-13 15:11 Does it react to C-c? 2010-06-13 15:13 C-c? 2010-06-13 15:13 Ctrl-c 2010-06-13 15:13 ah 2010-06-13 15:13 yes 2010-06-13 15:14 strange 2010-06-13 15:14 works for me here 2010-06-13 15:17 i'm on openwrt if that matters 2010-06-13 15:20 I supposed so, that's why I compiled statically. 2010-06-13 15:21 Yeah, I find it weird that it doesn't even output an error message 2010-06-13 15:21 I prefer its sexy interface over vim/joe/emacs/nano, so i really hoped it would work 2010-06-13 15:22 it doesnt work for me too :( (openwrt) 2010-06-13 15:22 =((((((((((((( 2010-06-13 15:22 Wait... 2010-06-13 15:22 Maybe it's FPU stuff. 2010-06-13 15:23 It links to libm. 2010-06-13 15:23 Is there a precompiled toolchain specifically for the Ben? 2010-06-13 15:23 I got the precompiled dingux toolchain which is binary compatible, but i'd like ben-specific libs etc 2010-06-13 15:24 xdpirate havent found any yet 2010-06-13 15:24 probably somewhere in the openwrt build tree 2010-06-13 15:24 hmkay 2010-06-13 15:27 It means that I can't build it for you, because my libgcc is from Debian, too. 2010-06-13 15:28 It's indeed a bit sad that Debian is binary-incompatible to openwrt. 2010-06-13 15:29 it is? i read somewhere you could use debian binarys in dingux so it cant be totally incompatile 2010-06-13 15:30 That's very sad, it'll essentially break the community in two parts, the ones that use owrt and the ones who use deb 2010-06-13 15:31 http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingux-development/how-to-run-debian-mipsel-application-on-dingux-(again-thanks-dan!)/?wap2 2010-06-13 15:32 I don't see the problem as long as there is a documented build process for stuff testbedded on debian being turned into openwrt packages 2010-06-13 15:32 and a concerted effort to do so 2010-06-13 15:32 this is simply the role of procedure 2010-06-13 15:33 despite turning the nanonote into a general purpose computer, openwrt is much more streamlined 2010-06-13 15:34 targetted openwrt respins are probably the future of the platform anywa 2010-06-13 15:34 y 2010-06-13 15:34 debian is just a development/hacker platform 2010-06-13 15:34 its perfectly natural for early adopters to gravitate towards the more powerful OS 2010-06-13 15:35 and the one with the larger selection of packages 2010-06-13 15:35 Hm, I don't even find anything about FPU emulation in my .config. 2010-06-13 15:35 I don't think that means the community itself will be divided 2010-06-13 15:39 eeek 2010-06-13 15:40 Why did they disable MIPS_FPU_EMU support by patch, not just by .config option? 2010-06-13 15:40 in openwrt 2010-06-13 15:59 Making a Debian kernel seems to be less trivial that I thought. 2010-06-13 16:14 nebajoth: Sure, OpenWRT is more suitable for cross-compilation. 2010-06-13 16:14 That's sometimes nice. 2010-06-13 16:38 huggles #qi-hardware 2010-06-13 17:33 xdpirate: http://bas.ath.cx:81/ne 2010-06-13 17:33 i built it using openwrt toolchain, run on my Ben with ne --ansi 2010-06-13 17:35 I'm still having problems building the toolchain ;_; 2010-06-13 17:35 what kind of problems? 2010-06-13 17:35 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image 2010-06-13 17:36 build fails. 2010-06-13 17:36 this is what i was following 2010-06-13 17:36 kyak: you have recipie of ne? 2010-06-13 17:36 let me bring it up 2010-06-13 17:36 tuxbrain_away: recipie? 2010-06-13 17:37 sorry Openwrt Makefile to include on Openwrt or qi repositories 2010-06-13 17:37 nah.. it was just a quick build fo xdpirate :) but i can try to make a package 2010-06-13 17:38 would be useful. 2010-06-13 17:38 in openembeded those "build instructions" are called recipies sorry too many time with OE in openmoko :P 2010-06-13 17:40 not really anything in the way of useful error message, just "make -r world: build failed. Please re-run make with V=99 to see what's going on" 2010-06-13 17:40 this name "recipy" actually makes sense :) 2010-06-13 17:41 Textmode: have you tried it? 2010-06-13 17:41 and I'm guessing that V=99 would drown me in messages. 2010-06-13 17:41 it would 2010-06-13 17:41 yeah kyak, and all compilers listening out there, I know is a little PITA but if you success in compiling something fancy to the BNN using the Owrt toolchain, making the Owrt Makefile for this will be extremelly usefull for the whole project :) 2010-06-13 17:41 helpful messages, actually 2010-06-13 17:42 tuxbrain_away: 100 % agree 2010-06-13 17:49 good night nanonoters out there, happy flashing, compiling, configuring, blaming, playing, note taking, listening, reading whatever , ...enjoy 2010-06-13 17:52 kyak: http://qi-hardware.pastebin.com/xbZpMLc1 2010-06-13 17:52 rest well, tuxbrain_away 2010-06-13 17:53 Textmode: what's your distro? 2010-06-13 17:53 Ubuntu 2010-06-13 17:53 just install perl::XML::Simple 2010-06-13 17:53 this must be in packages 2010-06-13 17:54 libxml-simple-perl? 2010-06-13 17:56 should be it 2010-06-13 17:56 though in my system (mandriva) it is called perl-XML-Simple 2010-06-13 17:58 well, we'll see in a minute :P 2010-06-13 18:29 I guess we can see that problem is solved, but the build is still going, so we might have some more luck later :P 2010-06-13 18:31 tuxbrain_away: have you seen the python gobject package? is that one the proper one you need?. BTW, 2010-06-13 18:31 http://keymouse.berlios.de/ (: 2010-06-13 18:39 calamarz, that's system global, or X11 only? 2010-06-13 18:45 zear: trying to figure... but it seems like system global 2010-06-13 18:51 build....faster.... ;_; 2010-06-13 19:20 hum... the keymouse seems promising but it's needing to load uinput module :/ 2010-06-13 19:21 time to join the kernel fun 2010-06-13 19:21 keymouse? 2010-06-13 19:21 vitual mouse, using the keyboard? 2010-06-13 19:22 yep 2010-06-13 19:30 calamarz, the only sucky thing about it i can think of is once you load it you can't use 4-way button as arrow keys 2010-06-13 19:31 so it will be useless for all no-mouse applications, like gmenu2x or gmu 2010-06-13 19:35 Hi - I have a problem with my NanoNote, I can't power it on, nor achieve usb-boot mode 2010-06-13 19:35 I had attempted (it appeared successfully) to flash Debian onto the device 2010-06-13 19:35 After that, it won't power on, nor will it go into usb-boot mode 2010-06-13 19:36 Anyone had a similar experience? 2010-06-13 19:36 zear: right. i was thinking about loading it only for running some apps... 2010-06-13 19:37 lloyd: yes. try to take the battery out for some seconds and try again 2010-06-13 19:37 lloyd: how are you trying to put it into USB boot mode? 2010-06-13 19:38 I am trying all enter usb-boot mode by shorting the two leads in the back (under the battery) and then holding down the power button for 2-5 seconds. 2010-06-13 19:39 The usb cable is of course attached. 2010-06-13 19:39 This happened about 12 hours ago. I had taken the battery out and let it sit during that time. 2010-06-13 19:45 it should always be possible to re-enter USB boot mode 2010-06-13 19:46 maybe unplug the USB cable for a short time and then repeat the procedure? 2010-06-13 19:48 lloyd, does the led on the right side of the device flash when you plug the cable in? 2010-06-13 19:48 could be that the u-boot (bootloader) is damaged so it doesn't boot, and you fail shortening the pins, so it doesn't switch into the usb boot mode 2010-06-13 19:48 its hard to short the pins 2010-06-13 19:49 you must press quite hard 2010-06-13 19:49 yep, i need to try it several times until i do it right 2010-06-13 19:49 I have greatest success with tinfoil 2010-06-13 19:50 a good idea is to run "watch lsusb" so you can see if it's in usb boot mode still keeping the device in hands 2010-06-13 19:50 it speeds the whole process up 2010-06-13 19:50 agreed 2010-06-13 19:51 and no harm in putting the refresh rate up real high either 2010-06-13 19:51 default is 2 seconds 2010-06-13 19:51 I like me a 0.2 2010-06-13 19:51 watch -n 0.2 lsusb 2010-06-13 19:51 near enough to realtime as to make no difference to me 2010-06-13 19:52 also 2010-06-13 19:52 anyway, bedtime, cya guys 2010-06-13 19:52 if anyone wants it 2010-06-13 19:52 my python battery checking script 2010-06-13 19:52 http://nebajoth.net/bat.py 2010-06-13 19:52 you have to manually invoke it 2010-06-13 19:53 and since it derives its information from the raw voltage numbers provided in /sys 2010-06-13 19:53 its just a linear interpolation 2010-06-13 19:53 Yes - the red led flashed momentarily when I first plug in the usb cable. 2010-06-13 19:54 I'm going to try the suggestion now (foil & watch) 2010-06-13 19:54 sweet 2010-06-13 19:54 I've been down your exact road 2010-06-13 19:54 and that's what worked for me 2010-06-13 19:54 or you can just: "cat /sys/devices/platform/jz4740-adc/jz4740-battery/power_supply/battery/capacity", make it a sh script and put into /usr/bin ;) 2010-06-13 19:56 pfft 2010-06-13 19:56 then you don't get to see it 2010-06-13 19:56 with the maxvoltage 2010-06-13 19:56 and the min 2010-06-13 19:56 NUMBARS 2010-06-13 19:57 nebajoth: have you logged the discharge cycle? 2010-06-13 19:57 no, but I should 2010-06-13 19:57 and recharge too 2010-06-13 19:58