2010-06-11 00:06 its cute 2010-06-11 00:08 tried this: http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/dingoo.cgi?0,0,0,0,38,355 works- looks cool 2010-06-11 00:21 is "del" mapped to anything, or do we just have backspace? 2010-06-11 00:24 don't suppose theres any way to change the default console font? 2010-06-11 00:29 Textmode: I haven't tried, but the usual kernel console font selections are available through make kernel_menuconfig 2010-06-11 00:29 at compile-time? 2010-06-11 00:29 Yes 2010-06-11 00:30 I'll probably mess with that at some point, but not any time soon. 2010-06-11 00:30 I don't suppose theres anything like a xterm for nn? :P 2010-06-11 00:30 I was about to say 2010-06-11 00:30 There's a framebuffer terminal described somewhere on the wiki 2010-06-11 00:30 and that does support different fonts and UTF-8 2010-06-11 00:31 I've forgotten what it's called already though :/ 2010-06-11 00:31 ah, cool. I'll look there. 2010-06-11 00:31 fbterm, that'd be it 2010-06-11 00:32 sounds like a likely name for it. 2010-06-11 00:33 Ah it was on the debian page. It doesn't appear to be in the openwrt feeds 2010-06-11 00:33 no, I was just noticing that. 2010-06-11 00:33 I'm sure you could get an xterm running with a framebuffer x11 driver though 2010-06-11 00:34 was more wondering how hard it would be to build fbterm from source. 2010-06-11 00:35 on a related aside, I don't suppose anyone has taken the time to figure what the differences are between the dingux toolchain, and the nn's openwrt toolchain are? 2010-06-11 00:37 hahahahaha 2010-06-11 00:37 guess who's running win 3.11 on the nanonote 2010-06-11 00:39 lol 2010-06-11 00:39 :D 2010-06-11 00:39 uuh, emulated right? :P 2010-06-11 00:39 ofc, dosbox 2010-06-11 00:39 aah cool 2010-06-11 00:40 :3 2010-06-11 00:40 did you build that yourself or have you put debian on there? 2010-06-11 00:41 arctanx, http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/dingoo.cgi?0,0,0,0,72,344 2010-06-11 00:41 thing is, i can't get past registrationscreen because it doesn't pick up the numbers =/ 2010-06-11 00:42 Interesting... 2010-06-11 00:42 and slaanesh has been silent about dosbox for a while 2010-06-11 00:42 his last post on the development thread was 31 May 2010 2010-06-11 00:42 http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/52517-dosbox-for-dingoo-a320/page__view__findpost__p__862863 2010-06-11 00:44 i hope he releases something soon, would be awesome 2010-06-11 00:48 lols it started installing even though i didn't enter a product key 2010-06-11 00:48 nice 2010-06-11 00:51 that certainly makes life easier :P 2010-06-11 00:52 yeah lol 2010-06-11 00:52 full keyboard support and mouse emulation for dosbox - and i'd be in heaven 2010-06-11 00:57 does the default openwrt include freetype2? probably not, but an I have a confirm? 2010-06-11 00:57 i have no idea ;o 2010-06-11 00:58 btw --> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7046011/11062010912.jpg 2010-06-11 00:59 bah, I had the link of the ben toolchain the other day, now I can't find it :/ 2010-06-11 01:00 xdpirate: its cute, like it doesn't know its its an artefact of history :D 2010-06-11 01:00 Textmode: Do you mean the git repo of the build, which includes the toolchain? http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image#Building_OpenWrt-image_from_source 2010-06-11 01:00 Textmode, xD 2010-06-11 01:00 it's at a whopping 35% 2010-06-11 01:02 arctanx: might be, I want the SDK, I've been using the dingoo toolchain so far. 2010-06-11 01:03 xdpirate: I don't know that the qi key is *for*, but its good for waking up the screen, as everything else seems to ignore it :P 2010-06-11 01:04 excellent idea, i'll start using it for that 2010-06-11 01:06 omg win 3.11 is at 80% 2010-06-11 01:06 so awesome 2010-06-11 01:07 sighs, watching several dozen lines of carefully crafted dialog scroll of the top of the NN's screen :P 2010-06-11 01:08 =D 2010-06-11 01:13 theres still a few bugs...*picks up random bystander and equips them as armor* 2010-06-11 01:13 wow the install is slow :P 2010-06-11 01:14 Does anyone know exactly which kernel config options are required on the _host_ PC to make this usb gadgety ethernet work? 2010-06-11 01:14 worked out of the box for me 2010-06-11 01:14 on your host: ifconfig usb0 192.168.254.101 2010-06-11 01:14 ***on your host: ifconfig usb0 192.168.254.100 2010-06-11 01:14 I have to utter some incantations on the terminal, but it worked in the end, instuctions on the wiki 2010-06-11 01:14 I picked I've turned on "Ethernet Gadget (with CDC Ethernet support)" and RNDIS support but that doesn't seem to have done it 2010-06-11 01:15 ifconfig usb0 192.168.254.100, then you can telnet or ssh in 2010-06-11 01:15 the ip is 192.168.254.101 2010-06-11 01:15 Thanks, but I'm running a cut-down bleeding edge kernel which doesn't (yet) have the right USB driver support, so I get no usb0 device 2010-06-11 01:16 still not sure where to get the toolchain... 2010-06-11 01:16 ah 2010-06-11 01:16 Textmode, just use the precompiled dingux toolchain, it's basically the same thing 2010-06-11 01:17 http://code.google.com/p/dingoo-linux/downloads/detail?name=dingux_toolchain_20091022.tar.bz2&can=2&q= 2010-06-11 01:17 xdpirate: basically ~= exactly 2010-06-11 01:17 fine, be that way 2010-06-11 01:17 I already have the dingux toolchain. 2010-06-11 01:17 :P 2010-06-11 01:17 Textmode: I cloned the most recent openwrt-xburst and having done a build, had a working toolchain in staging_dir/some_stuff/usr/bin 2010-06-11 01:17 it builds a toolchain as part of the image-building process 2010-06-11 01:18 any way i can see the status of a process via telnet? i'm not sure whether dosbox just screwed itself over or not 2010-06-11 01:19 telnet, then run top? 2010-06-11 01:20 thanks 2010-06-11 01:20 arctanx: how big is this thing? I'm being shaped... 2010-06-11 01:20 wat, dosbox isn't even appearing on the list 2010-06-11 01:25 Textmode: pretty big. I can't remember how much exactly but it's in the order of <100MB and it downloads more stuff when you build 2010-06-11 01:27 :/ 2010-06-11 01:31 the build is long, too, isn't it? 2010-06-11 01:45 yep, it took at least a couple of hours and then I left it overnight 2010-06-11 01:45 I'm sure a binary shapshot of the toolchain could be extricated.. my own would be amd64 2010-06-11 01:46 i'd have to boot the other comp to make use of that, not so great :P 2010-06-11 01:53 Now openwrt is teaching me how to make cocktails... I love this device 2010-06-11 01:55 yeah, that message confused the hell out of me the first time I saw it. 2010-06-11 02:14 since apprently I can't get through this w/o rebuilding the kernel anyway, where the are options for console font hiding? 2010-06-11 02:16 bah, its getting too late for me 2010-06-11 02:56 Pro-tip: if you build openwrt-xburst, don't move the dir unless you want to build the whole thing again 2010-06-11 02:56 apparently some absolute paths have snuck into the build process and mess it up 2010-06-11 03:58 tuxbrain: you there? 2010-06-11 04:01 larsc: ? 2010-06-11 04:17 zear: it seems that the problem with this mplayer is that it already has a libavsync library built. And we can not build it because no sources.. That I did was tell mplayer do not avsync (with -autosync 2000 for example).. and it seems that mplayer works nice now. BUt it is just a workaround. 2010-06-11 04:18 ah, great we at least found the culprit 2010-06-11 04:18 and that there is a workaroudn 2010-06-11 04:18 *workaround 2010-06-11 04:18 yep 2010-06-11 04:20 there is something weird with kernel btw.. sometimes I build it after a clean and sound worked, sometimes after a clean and build sounds does not work. I hate the word "SOMETIMES" :P 2010-06-11 04:20 and I do not know why it happens. 2010-06-11 04:21 the official kernel in openwrt brings alsa driver as module.. I have always tried to put it inside the kernel binary. I am guessing that perhaps they have the alsa as modules for some reason :) 2010-06-11 04:21 but it is after you build it or after you start the system? 2010-06-11 04:21 well, I build on pc, cp the kernel to SD and then start the system 2010-06-11 04:21 sometimes after a clean building it works, sometimes no 2010-06-11 04:22 ah, i see 2010-06-11 04:23 <{marcz}> rafa: as I have some problem with sounds, I'm interested in what you observe 2010-06-11 04:24 {marcz}: yeah.. we are not going to change sound hardware so I do not know why the official kernel brings the alsa drivers as modules and no inside the kernel. 2010-06-11 04:24 <{marcz}> Myself I have sound as output, but the recoding is also sound but completly distorted 2010-06-11 04:25 <{marcz}> Of course, but I don't know if it comes from my soft or hard, I have until now compiled also the sound modules in modules. 2010-06-11 04:26 okey, good to know. 2010-06-11 04:27 I would like to have it always inside, because the hardware sound will be always there.. but well. We will see if that is not a problem now. 2010-06-11 04:29 <{marcz}> I have just noticed that the order of loading modules is very important, if I let go by default, I come up with some modules loaded and I cannot load the remaining. 2010-06-11 04:29 do you have that order? 2010-06-11 04:29 <{marcz}> In this case snd-page-alloc crash and I cannot get the device. 2010-06-11 04:30 perhaps there is the problem.. something bad in init.. 2010-06-11 04:30 could you tell me the order of the modules? 2010-06-11 04:32 <{marcz}> My nano is not with me presently, but you can either take in order the order in the openwrt image under /etc/module.d or a post of bebajoth two days ago in the mailing list. I personnaly use less modules but the canvas is that. 2010-06-11 04:34 <{marcz}> But my own problem is OK for output and not input, ruben said me that he has both very good, so I don't know if my peculiar mic is defective or if it is my kernel (but why?) 2010-06-11 04:49 <{marcz}> :time 2010-06-11 06:04 hi 2010-06-11 06:05 for reflashing just the kernel I don't need to erase the whole nand, right? 2010-06-11 06:20 calamarz: yes. 2010-06-11 06:21 calamarz: for reflashing bootloader and kernel are don't need to erase nand. 2010-06-11 06:22 tx 2010-06-11 06:24 xiangfu: you said you had compiled a debian kernel with snd modules statically linked? 2010-06-11 06:25 calamarz: yes. it can play music but very very slow. 2010-06-11 06:26 calamarz: I only use 'mplayer' to test play sound 2010-06-11 06:28 calamarz: here is the file: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/xiangfu/tmp/debian-xburst-qi_lb60-uImage.bin 2010-06-11 06:29 thanx! 2010-06-11 06:41 ah! zear is not here! 2010-06-11 06:42 tuxbrain: I fixed mplayer ;), but without workaround 2010-06-11 06:43 awesome!, sorry :( I have no time to play with NN , I hope next week will be more hacker friendly 2010-06-11 06:43 what was the point? 2010-06-11 06:46 tuxbrain: zear gave me an ingenic modified mplayer 2010-06-11 06:46 the one you have 2010-06-11 06:46 I built and it does now work well 2010-06-11 06:47 today I was checking and those sources had some already built stuff. 2010-06-11 06:48 Is there anywhere where folks are sharing openwrt package makefiles? 2010-06-11 06:48 SO I clean all that. Then I had some issues to build, so I build the libs which make asked 2010-06-11 06:48 tuxbrain: so now mplayer work with sound and video. 2010-06-11 06:48 yay! 2010-06-11 06:48 tuxbrain: Now I need to test several files and the performance :) 2010-06-11 06:48 tuxbrain: I will test your files ;) 2010-06-11 06:49 has been working on one, but the emacs build system is more than slightly painful for a cross compiler 2010-06-11 06:49 ok 2010-06-11 06:49 make a video of the test :) 2010-06-11 06:54 yeah.. 2010-06-11 06:57 slowly masturbates 2010-06-11 07:06 arctanx: Hi there are some makefiles: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/tree/master/ 2010-06-11 07:07 xiangfu: Great, thanks. 2010-06-11 07:43 rafa: ! 2010-06-11 07:49 wow... nn speaker nearly breaks my ears! 2010-06-11 07:53 yeah we need to get the default settings for microphone and speaker tuned a bit :-) 2010-06-11 07:54 I'm getting an annoying coupling 2010-06-11 07:55 it seems i'm getting to record something... noisy but something :p 2010-06-11 08:22 so i'm at work right now.. and i got the call from EMS courier telling that NN has been delivered to my home 2010-06-11 08:22 do you understnad how i feel? :) 2010-06-11 08:22 two hours left 2010-06-11 08:22 only two hours untill i go hom :) 2010-06-11 08:23 ..and three days of long weekend ahead 2010-06-11 08:24 :D 2010-06-11 08:31 happy flashing kyak :P 2010-06-11 08:40 btw, tuxbrain: you're lightning quick ! 2010-06-11 08:41 yeah, flashing might become a pain ): 2010-06-11 08:44 kyak: it's painless :) 2010-06-11 08:50 calamarz: everybody just has a different pain threshold :) 2010-06-11 08:55 tuxbrain: do you have some script to creat ipk/opk packages? mine does not work well.. 2010-06-11 09:08 Mirko Vogt: Merge branch 'master' of openwrt-backfire into xburst http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/4ecc663 2010-06-11 09:08 jow: [backfire] merge r21700 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/87686a9 2010-06-11 09:08 jow: [backfire] merge network config fixes: r21641, r21652, r21655, r21659 and r21661 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/5fa298d 2010-06-11 09:08 nbd: backport the latest version of the mac80211 package to backfire. includes fixes for wpa key handling, throughput issues, etc. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/262b52b 2010-06-11 09:08 nbd: orion: add wrt350nv2 mac address fix from r21647 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/c832966 2010-06-11 09:08 jow: [backfire] merge r21638 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/8eca131 2010-06-11 09:08 jow: [backfire] merge r21616 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/b8fe848 2010-06-11 09:08 jow: [backfire] revert r21596 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/102b4bb 2010-06-11 09:08 jow: [backfire] merge r21595 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/c4c9038 2010-06-11 09:08 jow: [backfire] merge r21590 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/f641cda 2010-06-11 09:08 jow: [backfire] merge r21588 and r21591 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/e7cb5d5 2010-06-11 09:08 jow: [back 2010-06-11 09:09 Carlos Camargo: Updating examples to Board changes, adding irq driver demo http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/5041c0e 2010-06-11 10:59 at last i'm holding this thing in my hands :) 2010-06-11 10:59 it is smaller than i thought! 2010-06-11 10:59 so awesome.. 2010-06-11 11:04 :D 2010-06-11 11:04 kyak, but you know what's the coolest about it? You can type commands on it on the go 2010-06-11 11:05 hold it in your hands and type with thumbs 2010-06-11 11:09 root@BenNanoNote:~# uname -a 2010-06-11 11:09 Linux BenNanoNote 2.6.32.3-g023227d-dirty #1 PREEMPT Wed Jan 13 20:53:27 CET 2010 mips GNU/Linux 2010-06-11 11:09 yay! 2010-06-11 11:09 zear: yeah, it's like mobile phone :) 2010-06-11 11:09 okay 2010-06-11 11:10 now for the software update thing 2010-06-11 11:10 i have to get used for keyboard layout 2010-06-11 11:10 we should perhaps hold a contest for the fastest typing on NN sometime :) 2010-06-11 11:12 and the coolest thing is.. i have this damn small wifi card 2010-06-11 11:12 but first things first 2010-06-11 11:13 zhangyi: fyi, the parcel has been received. So it took 12 days to ship to Russia :) 2010-06-11 11:13 zhangyi: thanks a lot for your effort! 2010-06-11 11:14 kyak: great! i'm glad to hear it! :) 2010-06-11 11:14 kyak: any time. 2010-06-11 11:14 kyak: will update our shipping notes :) 2010-06-11 11:15 you can also mention that EMS likes to come to your home without any prior notice and then call you in the middle of the day asking "where are you"?: ) 2010-06-11 11:16 luckily, i had someone who could accept the parcel at home 2010-06-11 11:25 cross-compiles openwrt-xburst. 2010-06-11 11:25 Is there a lot you can do wrong? 2010-06-11 11:26 holy crow 2010-06-11 11:26 I cannot figure out how to adjust the volume of this thing 2010-06-11 11:27 alsamixer? 2010-06-11 11:27 works on openwrt, at least 2010-06-11 11:27 it doesn't do anything 2010-06-11 11:27 it loads 2010-06-11 11:27 it identifies the proper card 2010-06-11 11:27 hm 2010-06-11 11:27 you can nudge the volume up and down 2010-06-11 11:27 but the actual playing volume remains the same 2010-06-11 11:27 How did you get sound support in the first place, BTW? 2010-06-11 11:27 (I assume you're on Debian) 2010-06-11 11:27 I am on Debian 2010-06-11 11:27 press M 2010-06-11 11:28 and I loaded the module list 2010-06-11 11:28 from openwrt 2010-06-11 11:28 and it works 2010-06-11 11:28 :( 2010-06-11 11:28 That's what I did, too. 2010-06-11 11:28 muting works, tuxbrain 2010-06-11 11:28 just not volumen adjustments 2010-06-11 11:28 Maybe my tarball was too new, though. 2010-06-11 11:29 actually 2010-06-11 11:29 it seems as though I can raise the volume a little 2010-06-11 11:29 but not diminish it 2010-06-11 11:29 at all 2010-06-11 11:29 from the very loud default 2010-06-11 11:29 nebajoth: Where did you get the modules from? 2010-06-11 11:29 the openwrt image 2010-06-11 11:29 I copied mine from openwrt-xburst-rootfs.tgz. 2010-06-11 11:30 same thing 2010-06-11 11:30 interestingly 2010-06-11 11:30 even on mute I can hear it very softly 2010-06-11 11:32 snd_soc_core: Unknown symbol i2c_transfer 2010-06-11 11:32 That's what i get. 2010-06-11 11:45 software usb boot + ./reflash_ben.sh did the job (at the first attempt) 2010-06-11 11:45 i guess i'll keep this magical USB cable :) 2010-06-11 11:45 it's from Nokia N76, as that matters 2010-06-11 11:49 guys 2010-06-11 11:50 there is horizontal lines on the LCD (a noise) when Ben is connected to USB 2010-06-11 11:50 is it ok? 2010-06-11 11:50 i also notice such flickering when it is close to my laptop 2010-06-11 11:58 hm 2010-06-11 11:58 it really is flickering badly 2010-06-11 12:11 kyak, the flickering is my fault i think 2010-06-11 12:11 gmenu2x was compile with jz4740 overclock code 2010-06-11 12:11 and it overclock the lcd timings as well 2010-06-11 12:11 and that results with flickering 2010-06-11 12:11 *compiled 2010-06-11 12:12 oh, i think that's an unrelated flickering, sorry for not reading the rest of the messages 2010-06-11 12:12 no, it might be related.. let me disable the gmenu2x autostart and we'll see.. 2010-06-11 12:20 it's rock stable now 2010-06-11 12:20 even if i put Ben on laptop's wifi card 2010-06-11 12:21 hm.. i inserted usb cable and the screen went black 2010-06-11 12:22 ok.. i need to get used to inserting usb cable without pressing the power button by accident :) 2010-06-11 12:25 i think most of you guys are not using gmenu2x, right? 2010-06-11 12:25 well, i am ;P 2010-06-11 12:25 and it's not flickering for you? ): 2010-06-11 12:26 it is ;P 2010-06-11 12:26 though i don't care because i rarely use my nanonote (mostly just use it as a music player) 2010-06-11 12:27 ok, i haven't found a use for mine yet :) 2010-06-11 12:27 though i found gmenu2x keybindings weird 2010-06-11 12:27 "enter" is launching settings, not the selected icon 2010-06-11 12:27 well, it's the best i could do 2010-06-11 12:27 with the gaming console layout gmenu2x was designed for 2010-06-11 12:28 so how do i select? 2010-06-11 12:29 and you can always modify the controls in /usr/share/gmenu2x/input.conf 2010-06-11 12:29 "x" if i remember correctly 2010-06-11 12:29 SELECT: Bring up the contextual menu. 2010-06-11 12:29 whereis "select"? :) 2010-06-11 12:29 select is esc 2010-06-11 12:30 start is enter 2010-06-11 12:30 zear: this is weird.. any way to remember this? 2010-06-11 12:30 L is q, R is P 2010-06-11 12:30 i mean, is there some logic behind? 2010-06-11 12:30 the rest of the buttons (a/b/x/y) are s/d/z/x 2010-06-11 12:30 yes 2010-06-11 12:30 i need to imaging game console? 2010-06-11 12:30 exactly ;) 2010-06-11 12:31 like dendy controller? :) 2010-06-11 12:31 more like a dingoo 2010-06-11 12:31 though, the "front buttons" are on the left and the d-pad is on the right here on the nn 2010-06-11 12:32 but as i mentioned before, edit /usr/share/gmenu2x/input.conf to customize your controls 2010-06-11 12:32 if you come up with better keymappings ;) 2010-06-11 12:32 i'll stick to default 2010-06-11 12:32 they start to make sense now :) 2010-06-11 12:32 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Gmenu2x 2010-06-11 12:33 yep 2010-06-11 12:33 i read this in the first place, but couldn't understand what this "On the Ben" means in the beginning 2010-06-11 12:33 now i understand, thanks :) 2010-06-11 12:33 but that's why gmenu2x needs a major input handling redesign 2010-06-11 12:33 to support full qwerty 2010-06-11 12:34 why does it need this when it supports input.conf? 2010-06-11 12:34 or is it limited? 2010-06-11 12:34 because it still shows gp2x controls on the bottom bar 2010-06-11 12:34 so "B" isn't really B on nn's keyboard 2010-06-11 12:35 right.. 2010-06-11 12:35 ehm.. 2010-06-11 12:36 i'm failing to exit GMU :) 2010-06-11 12:36 alt+enter 2010-06-11 12:36 why?: ) 2010-06-11 12:36 hold alt for extra explanation 2010-06-11 12:36 kyak,if you don't like that, you can redefine all buttons as you wish 2010-06-11 12:36 i guess it's another leftover from gaming consoles 2010-06-11 12:37 but wejp will explain it better ;) 2010-06-11 12:37 wejp: i'm ok with that, just need to get used.. i don't like changing default options 2010-06-11 12:37 zear, right, it is kind of, gaming consoles have only very few buttons 2010-06-11 12:37 kyak, okay :) 2010-06-11 12:38 so, stardic is english-english only :) 2010-06-11 12:38 zear, also that way more of the functions can be explained on screen (default mapping and secondary mapping can both be explained) 2010-06-11 12:38 this is smart, taking into account that i can't switch keyboard layout anyway 2010-06-11 12:38 hehe 2010-06-11 12:39 wejp, well, i bet you'll get some complaints from the pandora users :P 2010-06-11 12:39 btw, the next gmu version comes with a new intro/help screen which explains most of the button mappings 2010-06-11 12:39 ok, now i'm failing to leave stardic.. esc and alt+enter ot wokirng :) 2010-06-11 12:39 that will be shown on the very first start 2010-06-11 12:39 wejp, oh, that's cool 2010-06-11 12:39 yep :) 2010-06-11 12:39 so how is the pandora, btw? 2010-06-11 12:40 ok, it's ctrl+Q 2010-06-11 12:40 it is nice, i like the really long battery runtime 2010-06-11 12:40 and the screen resolution is amazing,really good screen 2010-06-11 12:40 what about the quality of the device in general? 2010-06-11 12:40 looks a bit shitty from the vids 2010-06-11 12:41 the real device looks better than what i was expecting from some videos 2010-06-11 12:41 ah, that's great 2010-06-11 12:41 i wish it was half the price so i could buy it 2010-06-11 12:41 yeah, it is a bit expensive 2010-06-11 12:41 and wouldn't be scared to carry it around with me 2010-06-11 12:42 well at least i had to pay only 250 euros, instead of 300 as it costs now 2010-06-11 12:42 oh and on ebay people sell pandoras for way over $1000 :O 2010-06-11 12:42 well, there's some euro crisis on the horizon 2010-06-11 12:42 maybe the price will go down ;P 2010-06-11 12:42 true 2010-06-11 12:42 wouldn't count on a lower price 2010-06-11 12:42 euro crisis could even result in the opposite 2010-06-11 12:43 the ebay buys are mad 2010-06-11 12:43 *guys 2010-06-11 12:43 yeah 2010-06-11 12:43 incredible 2010-06-11 12:44 btw, record some vid comparison of nn and pandora 2010-06-11 12:44 maybe more pandora guys will end up buying nanos ;) 2010-06-11 12:44 hm, i could do that :) 2010-06-11 12:44 it is a little bit difficult to compare them thoguh 2010-06-11 12:45 well, nn runs all the dingux games 2010-06-11 12:45 so there is a place for comparizon 2010-06-11 12:45 hm, that's true 2010-06-11 12:45 there are also my stright ports 2010-06-11 12:45 straight, even 2010-06-11 12:46 yeah, if i find a little sparetime, i'll probably try to make a nice comparison video :) 2010-06-11 12:46 :D 2010-06-11 12:46 especially games that are easy to control on the nn, like powder, scummvm, frotz or dosbox 2010-06-11 12:51 kyak, is it just me, or the flickering is less noticable if you set the gmenu2x clock (enter go to go the menu) to 336Mhz and restart the nn? 2010-06-11 12:57 zear: will sure try that and let you know.. currently i'm into wifi thing :) 2010-06-11 14:09 hey guys, check this out: http://wstaw.org/m/2010/06/11/reader.png 2010-06-11 14:10 i asked the author for the sources, i hope he will agree to release this app on GPL 2010-06-11 14:26 zear: looks cool indeed :) 2010-06-11 16:02 notices that native compilation is *really* slow. 2010-06-11 16:05 sdschulze: what distro you running native compile on? 2010-06-11 16:09 Debian 2010-06-11 16:09 trying to make-kpkg 2010-06-11 16:10 eeek... virtual memory exhausted 2010-06-11 16:11 sdschulze: ah - I'd heard Debian had a native compile. Wish there was a gcc ipk for OpenWRT. 2010-06-11 16:12 not surprising that there aren't enough resources for a big compile on the NN. 2010-06-11 16:12 I'd still like to do it for small stuff though (drivers, quick utils, etc) 2010-06-11 16:13 Maybe I can misuse my microSD card for occasional swapping. 2010-06-11 16:13 Native compiling is cooler than cross-compiling. :) 2010-06-11 16:15 What's the preferred way of making "partitions" on SD cards?Â Â losetup? 2010-06-11 16:16 fdisk? 2010-06-11 16:20 SD cards have physical partitions?Â Â Nice. 2010-06-11 16:21 Do I need any special tricks to boot from SD card, BTW? 2010-06-11 16:21 so the bootloader finds the kernel and the kernel finds the root fs 2010-06-11 16:32 At least it seems to like that swap. 2010-06-11 16:56 Are there any general objections to making a partition table on the NAND flash, BTW?Â Â Does it interfere with the block structure or anything? 2010-06-11 17:01 <{marcz}> MTD is not a block device! 2010-06-11 17:24 wejp: could you please help? should i install libmpg123 for mp3 support in gmu? 2010-06-11 17:28 {marcz}: So that's the reason why they're not partitioned? 2010-06-11 17:28 mp3 is evil ]:) 2010-06-11 17:28 kyak: I haven't tried it, but I assume you have to recompile it. 2010-06-11 17:29 Better: convert all files to Ogg Vorbis 2010-06-11 17:31 <{marcz}> You install your file system jffs2 or ubifs over an UBIÂ Â layer that emilate a block device. 2010-06-11 17:31 obviously, yes 2010-06-11 17:33 But having the partition tables hardcoded in the Linux source code is not that nice. 2010-06-11 17:34 sdschulze: re - partitioning SD cards: I do it all the time on my beagle. Here's a script that we use to set it up: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/mkcard.txt 2010-06-11 17:34 <{marcz}> Of course their is no problem to partition a SD card 2010-06-11 17:35 <{marcz}> But a flash MTD is not the same, it has not the buil-in device driver 2010-06-11 17:36 So if you press M, uboot automatically looks at the partition table of the SD card and uses the first one for the kernel and the second one for rootfs? 2010-06-11 17:36 <{marcz}> To partition a SD card you can go with fdisk exactly in the same way you do on a disk 2010-06-11 17:37 <{marcz}> If you are on bnn you have to use a compiled command line in the uboot image 2010-06-11 17:38 Is using raw access to MTD faster than putting a driver between the flash and the CPU? 2010-06-11 17:38 <{marcz}> On the distribution of openwrt Xiangfu has set up a command line to boot from uimage on the fat partition NÂ° 1 2010-06-11 17:39 I do miss GRUB so much. :( 2010-06-11 17:40 <{marcz}> The main problem is wear levelling, in SD card it's done by the driver, so you can put over whatever fs you want. 2010-06-11 17:40 kyak copying libmpg123 and mpg123 from dingux version works nice 2010-06-11 17:41 {marcz}: Where does the SD card driver store the information on where the virtual blocks are mapped in the flash mem? 2010-06-11 17:41 <{marcz}> On MTD the block layer take care of it so you are using layer that can provide this wear leveling: ubi then ubifs, or jffs2 2010-06-11 17:42 <{marcz}> But I'm not at all a specialist of these lower level, refer to http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/ 2010-06-11 18:05 is there some way to access battery info on nn-debian? 2010-06-11 18:09 cat /sys/class/power/battery/capacity 2010-06-11 18:14 urandom_, thnkas, i should try 2010-06-11 18:14 calamarz: you might want to have a look at /sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent 2010-06-11 18:16 tx! 2010-06-11 18:52 waves 2010-06-11 19:03 rafa: you around? 2010-06-11 20:59 Textmode, updates on the issue of "What does the Qi-button do?": It returns a key code of 0 when pressed D: 2010-06-11 20:59 xdpirate, every time you press it, a kitten dies 2010-06-11 21:00 D: 2010-06-11 21:02 a...null key? 2010-06-11 21:05 yup, it returns a whopping key code of zero. 2010-06-11 21:05