2010-05-29 08:22 <qwebirc58386> hi1
2010-05-29 08:22 <qwebirc58386> what is the current state of wiki reader programs?
2010-05-29 08:32 <wolfspraul> qwebirc58386: I don't think very usable at all
2010-05-29 08:32 <qwebirc58386> :(
2010-05-29 08:32 <qwebirc58386> any projects in progress?
2010-05-29 08:32 <wolfspraul> but I haven't tried in a while
2010-05-29 08:32 <wolfspraul> he, yes. all over the place. :-)
2010-05-29 08:32 <wolfspraul> but if you are asking about openzim in particular, or fast openzim viewers, or actual openzim files, I think it's all slow
2010-05-29 08:34 <wolfspraul> I think most work right now is still in the lower levels, reflashing, u-boot, kernel, openwrt rootfs, debian & jlime, porting console apps, working on gui toolkits (quite a lot of work around qt4 for example)
2010-05-29 08:34 <wolfspraul> I assume you just want to _use_ offline wikis, now :-)
2010-05-29 08:34 <wolfspraul> so then the answer is: doesn't work
2010-05-29 08:34 <wolfspraul> if you want to help hacking, wow, yes, many places you can start
2010-05-29 08:36 <wolfspraul> the openzim team doesn't look very active to me, for example
2010-05-29 08:38 <kristianpaul> qwebirc58386: i use this in my computer https://launchpad.net/wikipediadumpreader
2010-05-29 08:38 <kristianpaul> wikipedia dumps are small compareted to get zim files in order to read
2010-05-29 08:39 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: are you using this on a NanoNote?
2010-05-29 08:40 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: dint try it yet cause rquire X
2010-05-29 08:42 <wolfspraul> I like this concept, reuse the existing dumps that are already produced for all wikis today
2010-05-29 08:42 <kristianpaul> indeed
2010-05-29 08:42 <wolfspraul> no need to always reinvent the wheel with yet another dump format
2010-05-29 08:42 <wolfspraul> one of the many reasons why the openzim project seems stuck
2010-05-29 08:42 <kristianpaul> actully the sofware make an index of the dump so is easy to read after that
2010-05-29 08:42 <wolfspraul> sure I can imagine, the key design idea first is to accept the data in the format that is most widely available today
2010-05-29 08:43 <wolfspraul> :-)
2010-05-29 08:43 <wolfspraul> and they got that right :-)
2010-05-29 08:43 <wolfspraul> then build on top of that
2010-05-29 08:43 <kristianpaul> also they uses comond gnu tools like grep
2010-05-29 08:43 <wolfspraul> I am wondering whether we can get this to work on the NanoNote
2010-05-29 08:43 <wolfspraul> our screen estate is super valuable, so it has to be content only
2010-05-29 08:43 <wolfspraul> nothing wasted for widgets and stuff
2010-05-29 08:43 <wolfspraul> text only would be fine as a first step, if it would only work, and would be fast
2010-05-29 08:44 <kristianpaul> i'll write to de debel asking for command line version just to wonder what respond
2010-05-29 08:44 <kristianpaul> s/devbel/devel
2010-05-29 08:44 <wolfspraul> qwebirc58386: so there you go, I wasn't aware of this project and it's not fit for NN today, but still maybe that's another more promising angle
2010-05-29 08:44 <wolfspraul> yes definitely
2010-05-29 08:53 <kristianpaul> sent
2010-05-29 08:57 <kristianpaul>  this reder uses grep zcat and other gnu tools :)
2010-05-29 08:57 <kristianpaul> s/reder/reader
2010-05-29 08:58 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: let's get something like that to the NanoNote
2010-05-29 08:58 <wolfspraul> then we don't have to wait forever for the elusive openzim solution
2010-05-29 09:19 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: k I'm out, thanks for the link to this interesting project. too many things going on...
2010-05-29 09:22 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: bye
2010-05-29 09:32 <zhangyi> kristianpaul: hi, have you checked our spanish flier?
2010-05-29 09:33 <zhangyi> kristianpaul: how do you like it? Am I do it right with the text?
2010-05-29 09:40 <kristianpaul> zhangyi: hey
2010-05-29 09:40 <kristianpaul> zhangyi: i reply the mail 10 seconds ago ;)
2010-05-29 09:40 <kristianpaul> zhangyi: i like
2010-05-29 09:40 <kristianpaul> i see there small error and the in contact box
2010-05-29 09:41 <zhangyi> kristianpaul: aha, yes, just got the mail :)
2010-05-29 09:42 <zhangyi> kristianpaul: thanks! i will fix the error
2010-05-29 09:43 <zhangyi> kristianpaul: i plan to send it to printing shop on Monday. hopefully, it comes out good
2010-05-29 09:45 <kristianpaul> zhangyi: cool
2010-05-29 09:46 <kristianpaul> btw  i liked:  DIY? Do it togheter
2010-05-29 09:50 <zhangyi> kristianpaul: you mean the sticker?
2010-05-29 09:51 <kristianpaul> zhangyi: yes
2010-05-29 09:52 <zhangyi> kristianpaul: oh, good. we haven't settled on stickers yet
2010-05-29 09:53 <zhangyi> kristianpaul: thanks for the feedback
2010-05-29 10:18 <rafa> larsc: for http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/qi-kernel/ , which target you use to build uImage file.. openwrt and others  use make uImage, but no in this case.
2010-05-29 10:19 <rafa> you use to build the uImage file?*
2010-05-29 10:22 <rafa> mkimage with some args perhaps?..
2010-05-29 10:30 <larsc> rafa: https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/target/linux/xburst/image/Makefile#L27
2010-05-29 10:31 <rafa> larsc: ahh.. great. Thanks a lot
2010-05-29 12:15 <rafa> argh.. no luck :( .. I have not able to boot a useful kernel yet with kernel messages on console
2010-05-29 12:15 <rafa> I have tested openwrt kernel, http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/qi-kernel/ and jlime kernel.. And I have used 3 toolchains as well.
2010-05-29 12:16 <rafa> I can see the logo on console, so something is happening when booting.. but without useful messages it is not easy to debug
2010-05-29 12:16 <rafa> :(
2010-05-29 13:07 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: jz4740: PWM: Fix pwm disble. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/2faa20a
2010-05-29 15:39 <rafa> tuxbrain: you there?
2010-05-29 16:40 <tuxbrain> rafa: hello?
2010-05-29 18:37 <xakh> tuxbrain: ping
2010-05-29 18:39 <xakh> every time I try to compile and stuff it says
2010-05-29 18:39 <xakh> ERROR: please fix target/linux/mx2/Makefile
2010-05-29 18:39 <xakh> it runs the command, then says it again after it finishes
2010-05-29 18:39 <larsc> ignore it
2010-05-29 18:40 <xakh> ok
2010-05-29 18:41 <xakh> larsc, wanna help me cross compile somethin?
2010-05-29 18:43 <larsc> xakh: depends
2010-05-29 18:43 <xakh> okay
2010-05-29 18:43 <xakh> gimme a seco
2010-05-29 18:44 <xakh> I have the makefile necessary to make it into a package
2010-05-29 18:44 <xakh> I just need to know what the command is to make the file run
2010-05-29 18:44 <xakh> since I compiled the base system already
2010-05-29 18:45 <larsc> what file?
2010-05-29 18:45 <larsc> your package makefile?
2010-05-29 18:45 <xakh> yeah
2010-05-29 18:45 <larsc> make package/name_here/compile V=99
2010-05-29 18:45 <xakh> ah
2010-05-29 18:45 <xakh> ok
2010-05-29 18:45 <xakh> to compile it for xburst?
2010-05-29 18:46 <larsc> for whatever target you selected
2010-05-29 18:47 <xakh> ok
2010-05-29 18:47 <xakh> do I have to do it inside something?
2010-05-29 18:50 <xakh> hello?
2010-05-29 18:50 <urandom_> i dont think you have to do it inside something, from console i think
2010-05-29 18:50 <xakh> ok
2010-05-29 18:51 <xakh> do I use the tar.gz or the makefile for making
2010-05-29 18:51 <urandom_> i am learning how to cross compile myself
2010-05-29 18:51 <xakh> what're you going to compile, if you don't mind my asking?
2010-05-29 18:52 <urandom_> the makefile i think
2010-05-29 18:52 <xakh> ok
2010-05-29 18:52 <urandom_> oh there ist a lot i would like to try
2010-05-29 18:53 <xakh> xakh@WarMachine:~/openwrt/package/leafpad$ make package/leafpad/Makefile/compile V=99
2010-05-29 18:53 <xakh> Makefile:8: /rules.mk: No such file or directory
2010-05-29 18:53 <xakh> Makefile:22: /package.mk: No such file or directory
2010-05-29 18:53 <xakh> make: *** No rule to make target `/package.mk'.  Stop.
2010-05-29 18:54 <larsc> just `package/leafpad/compile V=99`
2010-05-29 18:54 <larsc> and from the openwrt base dir
2010-05-29 18:56 <xakh> ok
2010-05-29 18:57 <xakh> hm.
2010-05-29 18:58 <xakh> should I move leafpad inside my main openwrt directory (openwrt-sburst) or keep it out of that directory, and just in my openwrt folder?
2010-05-29 18:58 <larsc> keep it where it is
2010-05-29 18:59 <larsc> `cd  ~/openwrt; make package/leafpad/compile V=99`
2010-05-29 19:01 <urandom_> oh "make -r world: build failed. " meh :(
2010-05-29 19:01 <xakh> ok
2010-05-29 19:01 <xakh> I'mma go to the bathroom
2010-05-29 19:02 <xakh> brb
2010-05-29 19:02 <urandom_> it was compiling bison, isnt there a already compiled toolchain?
2010-05-29 19:05 <xakh> compiling bison?
2010-05-29 19:06 <urandom_> while compiling the toolchain with make
2010-05-29 19:07 <xakh> well, I compiled my system but it gave that error
2010-05-29 19:09 <urandom_> what error?
2010-05-29 19:11 <xakh> ERROR: please fix target/linux/mx2/Makefile
2010-05-29 20:15 <urandom_> oh this compiling toolchain thing can take a while... ah und xakh i get the same error so dont worry
2010-05-29 21:25 <xakh> urandom_: Ping
2010-05-29 21:26 <xakh> or is it
2010-05-29 21:26 <xakh> urandom_: ping
2010-05-29 21:26 <urandom_> pong
2010-05-29 21:26 <xakh> or does it not matter
2010-05-29 21:26 <xakh> ah
2010-05-29 21:27 <xakh> there ya are.
2010-05-29 21:27 <xakh> I got side tracked there.
2010-05-29 21:27 <xakh> so you get the same error I did?
2010-05-29 21:27 <urandom_> yeah
2010-05-29 21:27 <xakh> did it still work for you?
2010-05-29 21:30 <urandom_> i have run out of disc space while compiling :/ but dont think you have to care about the error
2010-05-29 21:30 <xakh> well nothing seems to be happening
2010-05-29 21:33 <urandom_> xakh what are you doing now? you have succesfully compiled your toolchain and now want to compile an app or what?
2010-05-29 21:33 <xakh> I compiled my toolchain a while ago
2010-05-29 21:34 <xakh> it took about an hour and gave that error
2010-05-29 21:34 <xakh> now I'm trying to figure out how to make the actual package
2010-05-29 21:35 <urandom_> are you using the howto from tuxbrain?
2010-05-29 21:35 <xakh> I lost the link
2010-05-29 21:35 <xakh> and I get lost easily
2010-05-29 21:35 <xakh> hey, if you're out of space
2010-05-29 21:36 <xakh> maybe I could help you out, if you teach me how to build this stuff
2010-05-29 21:36 <xakh> I'll compile any of the stuff you need
2010-05-29 21:36 <xakh> provided it's doable
2010-05-29 21:36 <xakh> (so no flash or anything :P)
2010-05-29 21:36 <urandom_> http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/my-first-port-ben-nanonote-gnuchess-howto
2010-05-29 21:37 <urandom_> well just ask me if you dont understand something but i think the howto is really good
2010-05-29 21:37 <xakh> ok
2010-05-29 21:38 <nebajoth> howto to do what?
2010-05-29 21:38 <nebajoth> sorry, I just got here
2010-05-29 21:38 <nebajoth> I hate it when people do this
2010-05-29 21:38 <nebajoth> but I like howtos
2010-05-29 21:38 <urandom_> you have to do the Creating a Package with OpenWRT part now ;) xakh
2010-05-29 21:38 <urandom_> nebajoth http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/my-first-port-ben-nanonote-gnuchess-howto
2010-05-29 21:38 <xakh> well, I have a makefile made
2010-05-29 21:38 <nebajoth> ah yes
2010-05-29 21:38 <nebajoth> openwrt package preparation
2010-05-29 21:39 <xakh> and I made a myfeed
2010-05-29 21:39 <nebajoth> I definitely need to look at that
2010-05-29 21:39 <xakh> and I made a makefilw
2010-05-29 21:39 <urandom_> so you need to add it to feeds.conf
2010-05-29 21:40 <xakh> *makefile
2010-05-29 21:40 <xakh> did that
2010-05-29 21:40 <xakh> is it supposed to be called feeds.conf.default? that's what mine calls it
2010-05-29 21:40 <urandom_> ah thats the problem, no feeds.conf
2010-05-29 21:41 <urandom_> you should copy it, rename to feeds.conf and edit it
2010-05-29 21:41 <xakh> well, I already made the necessary modifications in it
2010-05-29 21:42 <urandom_> good so just cp and rename
2010-05-29 21:42 <xakh> where do I put it?
2010-05-29 21:43 <xakh> it was just in the base folder of openwrt-xburst
2010-05-29 21:43 <xakh> do I have to put it somewhere else?
2010-05-29 21:43 <urandom_> i dont think so, try it
2010-05-29 21:43 <xakh> okay, where's it supposed to show up? in the openwrt menu?
2010-05-29 21:44 <urandom_> in the menuconfig thing i think
2010-05-29 21:45 <xakh> okat
2010-05-29 21:45 <xakh> *okay
2010-05-29 21:45 <xakh> nothing there
2010-05-29 21:46 <xakh> is there something wrong with my makefile maybe?
2010-05-29 21:47 <urandom_> well it should be there anyway i think
2010-05-29 21:47 <urandom_> what does make package/leafpad/compile V=99 say?
2010-05-29 21:48 <xakh> http://pastebin.com/7mVHUq4G
2010-05-29 21:49 <xakh> that's what it looks like
2010-05-29 21:51 <xakh> this is the makefile
2010-05-29 21:51 <xakh> http://pastebin.com/Gp5ttGD4
2010-05-29 21:53 <urandom_> have you tryed compiling something other? so that we know you toolchain works and all
2010-05-29 21:55 <xakh> nope
2010-05-29 21:55 <xakh> I dunno what else to compile
2010-05-29 21:56 <urandom_> gnuchess from the howto or some package that was ported to openwrt
2010-05-29 21:57 <xakh> I'm gonna need a good makefile to do that
2010-05-29 21:59 <urandom_> they come with a makefile
2010-05-29 22:00 <xakh> not that makefile
2010-05-29 22:00 <xakh> have you read the openwrt guide to packages?
2010-05-29 22:00 <xakh> there's a separate makefile
2010-05-29 22:01 <urandom_> http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/tree/master/
2010-05-29 22:01 <urandom_> i was talking about the separate makefile
2010-05-29 22:02 <urandom_> units should be doable i think
2010-05-29 22:02 <xakh> ok
2010-05-29 22:03 <xakh> well, point me to something with a makefile
2010-05-29 22:03 <urandom_> http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/tree/master/units/Makefile
2010-05-29 22:05 <xakh> I meant point me to something to compile
2010-05-29 22:05 <urandom_> well it is? you have the makefile for units so you can compile it
2010-05-29 22:08 <xakh> http://pastebin.com/eUejBFFa
2010-05-29 22:08 <xakh> I'm copying the file
2010-05-29 22:10 <xakh> and it still fails
2010-05-29 22:11 <urandom_> oh uhmm: someone else has an idea?
2010-05-29 22:13 <urandom_> you have selected xburst in make menuconfig?
2010-05-29 22:13 <xakh> yup
2010-05-29 22:15 <urandom_> wiki says "when you run make menuconfig, select some useful looking unselected package and make it an 'M', and make sure you can compile/install it" so try this
2010-05-29 22:16 <xakh> ???
2010-05-29 22:17 <xakh> so try to install an app from inside the menu, you mean?
2010-05-29 22:17 <urandom_> run menuconfig
2010-05-29 22:17 <urandom_> yeah
2010-05-29 22:19 <xakh> so I hit M
2010-05-29 22:19 <xakh> how do I make it....
2010-05-29 22:19 <xakh> like, go?
2010-05-29 22:22 <urandom_> it has to have an <M> in the list and then just exit und save and type make
2010-05-29 22:23 <xakh> so I have to make again?
2010-05-29 22:24 <xakh> *groans*
2010-05-29 22:24 <urandom_> it will rebuild everything and the package yeah :P
2010-05-29 22:24 <xakh> that took forever last time
2010-05-29 22:24 <xakh> will it take that long this time?
2010-05-29 22:25 <urandom_> it will, wait
2010-05-29 22:25 <xakh> hmm
2010-05-29 22:25 <urandom_> or
2010-05-29 22:26 <urandom_> you could search for a package already includet and do the make package/gnuchess/compile V=99 stuff
2010-05-29 22:26 <xakh> >:(
2010-05-29 22:26 <xakh> I already started make
2010-05-29 22:26 <urandom_> i remember it tool only half an hour for you
2010-05-29 22:26 <urandom_> or wasnt that you?
2010-05-29 22:29 <xakh> it took a bit longer
2010-05-29 22:29 <xakh> but it's done now
2010-05-29 22:29 <xakh> :O
2010-05-29 22:30 <xakh> but it still says "m" next to the package I added
2010-05-29 22:30 <xakh> is it supposed to change?
2010-05-29 22:30 <urandom_> dont think so
2010-05-29 22:31 <xakh> okay then.
2010-05-29 22:31 <xakh> so what now?
2010-05-29 22:31 <urandom_> so we know you can compile shit
2010-05-29 22:33 <xakh> woot.
2010-05-29 22:33 <urandom_> you could just edit the makefile of the app you just compiled to the leafpad one and try again
2010-05-29 22:34 <xakh> augh have headache.
2010-05-29 22:34 <urandom_> yeah cross compiling sucks
2010-05-29 22:42 <urandom_> ah shit i know what we forgot
2010-05-29 22:42 <urandom_> have you done /scripts/feeds update and all?
2010-05-29 22:47 <xakh> yeah
2010-05-29 22:47 <xakh> do I need to do it again?
2010-05-29 22:48 <urandom_> when you changed feeds.conf.default to feeds.conf have you done it again?
2010-05-29 22:48 <xakh> no I didn't
2010-05-29 22:48 <urandom_> so thats the problem
2010-05-29 22:49 <xakh> what's the command I need?
2010-05-29 22:49 <urandom_> ./scripts/feeds update
2010-05-29 22:49 <urandom_> ./scripts/feeds install -p mutroxports
2010-05-29 22:50 <urandom_>  mutroxports should be changed to you dir
2010-05-29 22:50 <xakh> package,
2010-05-29 22:50 <xakh> package/leafpad?
2010-05-29 22:50 <xakh> leafpad?
2010-05-29 22:52 <xakh> which directory?
2010-05-29 22:52 <xakh> sorry, confused
2010-05-29 22:54 <urandom_> no problem, give me your path to your leafpad makefile and i will tell
2010-05-29 22:54 <xakh> alright
2010-05-29 22:54 <xakh> it's /home/xakh/openwrt/package/leafpad
2010-05-29 22:55 <urandom_> so leafpad it is
2010-05-29 22:55 <xakh> so I say .scripts/feed install -p leafpad?
2010-05-29 22:55 <urandom_> yeah
2010-05-29 22:55 <xakh> okay
2010-05-29 22:56 <xakh> it did a buncha stuff
2010-05-29 22:56 <xakh> then where do I look for it?
2010-05-29 22:56 <urandom_> now leafpad should be in menuconfig
2010-05-29 22:57 <urandom_> you might also need to do make package/symlinks but first look
2010-05-29 23:00 <xakh> nothing
2010-05-29 23:00 <xakh> I'm going to try remaking
2010-05-29 23:00 <urandom_> make package/symlinks
2010-05-29 23:00 <xakh> and I'm going to go get something to drink, help clear my head
2010-05-29 23:00 <urandom_> just do make package/symlinks first
2010-05-29 23:01 <urandom_> and look again
2010-05-29 23:01 <urandom_> and yeah drinking might help
2010-05-29 23:01 <xakh> unfortunately
2010-05-29 23:01 <xakh> I'm in the States
2010-05-29 23:01 <xakh> I can't get anything alcoholic. ._.
2010-05-29 23:02 <xakh> just going to get a massive frozen drink and a hot dog or something.
2010-05-29 23:03 <xakh> actually, screw that, I
2010-05-29 23:03 <xakh> I'm gonna go get tacos.
2010-05-29 23:03 <xakh> see you dudes later.
2010-05-29 23:03 <urandom_> ok, see you
2010-05-29 23:52 <xakh> back
2010-05-29 23:52 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [u-boot-xburst] update to version 201003 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/b0a1a39
2010-05-29 23:53 <urandom_> wb, it is already morning here so i will have to get some sleep soon
2010-05-29 23:53 <urandom_> xakh have you tryed make package/symlinks?
2010-05-29 23:56 <xakh> nope
2010-05-29 23:57 <xakh> oh, it said make world failed
2010-05-29 23:57 <xakh> I hit space on all the main options in the menuconfig
2010-05-29 23:57 <xakh> so that might be why
2010-05-29 23:57 <xakh> I'm running it again with V=99