2010-05-10 02:45 <tuxbrain> morning channel!
2010-05-10 02:46 <tuxbrain> see metrhil has finnally find a motivating stuff to get into :)
2010-05-10 03:11 <tuxbrain> morning wolfspraul!
2010-05-10 03:12 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: morning
2010-05-10 03:12 <tuxbrain> I see methril has found something motivating to come into :)
2010-05-10 03:12 <wolfspraul> just uploaded a nice picture showing IDA Systems headquarters in Jaipur
2010-05-10 03:13 <wolfspraul> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/File:Ida_systems_in_jaipur.jpg
2010-05-10 03:13 <wolfspraul> if you have one for the Tuxbrain hq that would be cool too...
2010-05-10 03:13 <wolfspraul> yes indeed, very happy methril is excited
2010-05-10 03:13 <wolfspraul> this mail from Fernando was excellent
2010-05-10 03:13 <wolfspraul> I will follow up on this, only problem is so much to do! It will all take some time...
2010-05-10 03:14 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: did you see, Harald was pretty happy about our MTK research as well... http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2010/05/09/#20100509-cect_c3100
2010-05-10 03:14 <wolfspraul> need to dig deeper, knowledge is power...
2010-05-10 03:14 <wolfspraul> Bas did an Iris update
2010-05-10 03:14 <wolfspraul> Atommann reported that Debian doesn't boot for him, let's see how that goes
2010-05-10 03:15 <wolfspraul> roh sent some good links regarding the hoperf modules with some free software we can reuse, which is very very cool
2010-05-10 03:16 <tuxbrain> yes :) we have a late night chat about mtk with steve|m who is in charge of mkt stuff in osmocom-bb :)
2010-05-10 03:16 <tuxbrain> seem we have god matherial for a community update :)
2010-05-10 03:18 <wolfspraul> steve? which steve?
2010-05-10 03:18 <tuxbrain> steve|m
2010-05-10 03:18 <wolfspraul> are you following osmocom? (didn't know :-))
2010-05-10 03:18 <tuxbrain> the chat was in this channel
2010-05-10 03:18 <wolfspraul> this phone I looke at costs 18 USD
2010-05-10 03:18 <wolfspraul> unbelievable, eh?
2010-05-10 03:19 <tuxbrain> seems that is osmocom who is following us :)
2010-05-10 03:19 <wolfspraul> we could easily donate 20 or 30 to jumpstart development
2010-05-10 03:19 <wolfspraul> I love this power of technology, complete phone for 18 USD retail. Unbelievable.
2010-05-10 03:19 <wolfspraul> unfortunately many people are missing the real revolution that is going on
2010-05-10 03:19 <wolfspraul> everybody sees the iphone and so, and I agree that is amazing. but they don't see the other revolution going on :-)
2010-05-10 03:19 <wolfspraul> oh well...
2010-05-10 03:20 <wolfspraul> hey David, this is for you (just kidding)
2010-05-10 03:20 <wolfspraul> guess what the retail margin of this phone is?
2010-05-10 03:20 <wolfspraul> :-)
2010-05-10 03:20 <tuxbrain> yeah i we achevive to comercialize such stuff cheap enough with hackable free soft inside I thing we have winner here
2010-05-10 03:21 <wolfspraul> the retail margin per phone is a whopping 5 RMB = 56 EUR cents!!!
2010-05-10 03:21 <wolfspraul> and bloodsuckers as we are, when we bought 15 of them we bargained it down to 34 cents!
2010-05-10 03:22 <tuxbrain> hahaaha wow, seem like tuxbrain margins hahaah
2010-05-10 03:22 <wolfspraul> yeah, I thought this might make you feel better...
2010-05-10 03:22 <tuxbrain> common you have the guts to bargain with this prices????
2010-05-10 03:22 <wolfspraul> but seriously, this 18 USD thing is amazing
2010-05-10 03:22 <wolfspraul> oh sure
2010-05-10 03:22 <wolfspraul> in China you bargain for every penny
2010-05-10 03:22 <wolfspraul> the carbonized rubber button is 0.5 us cents I think
2010-05-10 03:23 <wolfspraul> but we bargained it down to 0.4 US cents
2010-05-10 03:23 <wolfspraul> :-)
2010-05-10 03:23 <tuxbrain> hey when we sell milions it will means thousands of $ :P
2010-05-10 03:23 <wolfspraul> yes the scary thing is that is what is happening
2010-05-10 03:24 <wolfspraul> we need to get reall Linux into this machine...
2010-05-10 03:24 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: have you tried Debian on your Nano yet?
2010-05-10 03:25 <tuxbrain> steve|m points to guys trying to do so in similar device mkt arm7 http://peeklinux.com
2010-05-10 03:25 <tuxbrain> not, but soon if not today tomorrow
2010-05-10 03:26 <tuxbrain> now I have another unit to use as openwrt testing I will use the mutant one to play with debian, and try to port avr toolchain there
2010-05-10 03:26 <wolfspraul> interesting don't know this peek device
2010-05-10 03:26 <wolfspraul> if this is an anti-vendor effort it's not for me, I don't believe in that
2010-05-10 03:26 <wolfspraul> obviously since I try to become a copyleft vendor myself, then there is no more need for anti-vendor ports
2010-05-10 03:27 <tuxbrain> yep it seems like a rigid nn with sim card :P
2010-05-10 03:27 <wolfspraul> so hope they talk to the peek manufacturers etc.
2010-05-10 03:27 <wolfspraul> I hear there are some interesting things coming on sim cards.
2010-05-10 03:27 <tuxbrain> no seems it pure reverse ingeniering from the beggining to end
2010-05-10 03:27 <wolfspraul> 'interesting' unfortunately from the wrong perspective, from the perspective of the operators who want to stay in control
2010-05-10 03:28 <wolfspraul> yeah the reverse stuff cannot work, you will always be chasing
2010-05-10 03:28 <tuxbrain> yep, but here we are to propose an alternative,
2010-05-10 03:28 <wolfspraul> reverse to gain knowledge is OK, that's what we do. but then need to produce yourself, or at least instruct the manufacturers yourself.
2010-05-10 03:28 <wolfspraul> you have no idea how fast Chinese can change, and they will change over and over and over, for .01 cents savings they will take down compatibility with all the software you have been working on for years.
2010-05-10 03:28 <wolfspraul> without hesitation
2010-05-10 03:28 <tuxbrain> sure peeklinux guys will be pleased to work in a openhardware if we provide one :)
2010-05-10 03:29 <wolfspraul> I'll add the peeklinux channel, good link thanks!
2010-05-10 03:29 <tuxbrain> sorry copyleft hardware
2010-05-10 03:30 <wolfspraul> did you hear some good (sales) news because of the Linux Magazin artice in Germany?
2010-05-10 03:30 <wolfspraul> 4 pages in a nice magazine about Ben NanoNote, but don't know the circulation of the magazine
2010-05-10 03:30 <tuxbrain> ?
2010-05-10 03:30 <wolfspraul> Pulster knows already
2010-05-10 03:31 <tuxbrain> I have no idea! :) good news :)
2010-05-10 03:31 <wolfspraul> just sent you a link
2010-05-10 03:35 <tuxbrain> is dreaming a qi-hardware 50¬ simple but free phone
2010-05-10 03:40 <tuxbrain> ouch! wlan is very highlighted (too much)
2010-05-10 03:40 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: well that's what we are working towards, no?
2010-05-10 03:41 <wolfspraul> it's just a huge amount of technology in the little phone, so it needs some time to come together
2010-05-10 03:41 <wolfspraul> fortunately some people see the big picture, hopefully it will grow over time and we don't die on the way (but even then I'm sure others continue)
2010-05-10 03:42 <tuxbrain> die is not an option
2010-05-10 03:42 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: there you go, I know we will hang in for a while :-)
2010-05-10 03:43 <tuxbrain> ok cu
2010-05-10 03:43 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: did you try Debian on your Nano? who did?
2010-05-10 03:43 <wolfspraul> cu
2010-05-10 03:43 <tuxbrain> will try debian today or tomorrow
2010-05-10 04:01 <emdete> wolfspraul: i did ;)
2010-05-10 04:06 <tuxbrain> hehehe emdete authors not counting :P
2010-05-10 04:07 <tuxbrain> emdete: any progress in sd booting?
2010-05-10 04:07 <emdete> tuxbrain: :) yes, you are right. but josch takes over now, he got the dev today
2010-05-10 04:07 <wolfspraul> emdete: authors count, but now we need to transfer the experience to the readers...
2010-05-10 04:08 <emdete> tuxbrain: just playing around with it. did you have any success?
2010-05-10 04:08 <tuxbrain> not, I will try the "classical" method in short
2010-05-10 04:09 <wolfspraul> emdete: the kernel from the latest openwrt-image, can it be used for debian without recompile?
2010-05-10 04:11 <emdete> wolfspraul: no, its missing two options, one will be switched on in the future as i understand, the other is in discussion. also we use differen partition sizes for now
2010-05-10 04:12 <emdete> but it is possible to agree on a common set of options i think
2010-05-10 04:13 <wolfspraul> ah OK
2010-05-10 04:13 <emdete> will run to the office - back in a minute...
2010-05-10 04:14 <josch> hey guys
2010-05-10 04:15 <josch> got my nn a few minutes ago and am in process of bootstrapping debian for it atm
2010-05-10 04:15 <josch> stay tuned
2010-05-10 04:15 <josch> tuxbrain: i guess you want to be pinged once i have smth?
2010-05-10 04:17 <tuxbrain> josch: mmmm only if you explainme what is smth, it hurts?
2010-05-10 04:17 <josch> i hope it will not
2010-05-10 04:18 <tuxbrain> can't wait and is flashing debian right now
2010-05-10 06:08 <tuxbrain> debian failed at first try, uboot and kernel ok but rootfs not found (kernel panic) erasing rootfs and reflashing again rootfs
2010-05-10 07:07 <shevek> Does anyone know details about the nand flash?  Which bank is it connected to?  Does it need the NFCE bit set or not?  Which error-correction is better?
2010-05-10 08:42 <qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Minor changes on SAKC gerbers http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/07ca557
2010-05-10 09:09 <tuxbrain> emdete: No way on booting debian, I guess there is problems with qi u-boot and partitions due it was unnable to open the rootfs, Ben cannot use the avt2 uboot it doesn't work on ben at all, where I can put the kernel panic log?
2010-05-10 09:13 <emdete> depends on the u-boot. qi-default is serial, mine is lcd
2010-05-10 09:20 <tuxbrain> I have the kernel panic, I just want to know where to postit
2010-05-10 09:20 <tuxbrain> will take a picture :P
2010-05-10 09:21 <tuxbrain> to upload on my own website
2010-05-10 09:22 <larsc> good
2010-05-10 09:23 <emdete> :D
2010-05-10 09:23 <emdete> tuxbrain: just tell us the url ;)
2010-05-10 09:25 <tuxbrain> http://www.tuxbrain.com/sites/default/files/debiankernelpanic.jpg
2010-05-10 09:27 <emdete> tuxbrain: there is a wrong root= in the kernel args... can you do a `strings` on the u-boot binary you flashed to check the kernel params?
2010-05-10 09:28 <tuxbrain> ops closed the bad window
2010-05-10 09:28 <tuxbrain> bad->wrong
2010-05-10 09:29 <tuxbrain> emdete:see the pic?
2010-05-10 09:29 <emdete> tuxbrain: yes
2010-05-10 09:29 <tuxbrain> any clue?
2010-05-10 09:29 <shevek> <emdete> tuxbrain: there is a wrong root= in the kernel args... can you do a `strings` on the u-boot binary you flashed to check the kernel params?
2010-05-10 09:29 <emdete> shevek: thnx! :D
2010-05-10 09:29 <shevek> tuxbrain: You just missed that. ;-)
2010-05-10 09:30 <emdete> tuxbrain: but i have overseen the line on top of the screenshot - ubi0... makes sense. but a strings is always a good thing to do ;)
2010-05-10 09:31 <emdete> tuxbrain: block(0,0) is probably a fallback
2010-05-10 09:32 <shevek> emdete: I expect it to be the detected major and minor number, which both remain 0 when detection fails.  But that makes it behave as a fallback, though a useless one. ;-)
2010-05-10 09:33 <emdete> 0,0 is probably first ide and often right ;)
2010-05-10 09:33 <tuxbrain> now the cuestion is... how I do that "strings"
2010-05-10 09:33 <tuxbrain> I'm a damn shopkeeper!
2010-05-10 09:33 <emdete> tuxbrain: :D in the shell type string u-boot*.bin
2010-05-10 09:33 <tuxbrain> in what shell?
2010-05-10 09:33 <emdete> hm... how do u flash?
2010-05-10 09:33 <shevek> emdete: No, 0 is not actually registered as a block device.  8 is ide.
2010-05-10 09:34 <tuxbrain> ok using uboot
2010-05-10 09:34 <emdete> shevek: oh, then it's always crap ;)
2010-05-10 09:34 <tuxbrain> ok in the host shell!!!!
2010-05-10 09:35 <tuxbrain> mmmm I start feeling like a windowser in fosdem
2010-05-10 09:35 <emdete> :D we like you for selling nanos, not for using shells! :D
2010-05-10 09:36 <tuxbrain> ouch!, my geek-ego is lying crying on the floor...
2010-05-10 09:40 <tuxbrain> result of #strings openwrt-xburst-u-boot.bin|grep bootargs
2010-05-10 09:40 <tuxbrain> bootargs
2010-05-10 09:40 <tuxbrain> bootargsfromsd
2010-05-10 09:40 <tuxbrain> bootargs=mem=32M console=tty0 console=ttyS0,57600n8 ubi.mtd=2 rootfstype=ubifs root=ubi0:rootfs rw rootwait
2010-05-10 09:40 <tuxbrain> bootargsfromsd=mem=32M console=tty0 console=ttyS0,57600n8 rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait
2010-05-10 09:45 <tuxbrain> ? I dont see any difference (appart of the mem and the mac between qi- uboot and yours)?....
2010-05-10 09:46 <emdete> tuxbrain: looks fine
2010-05-10 09:47 <emdete> tuxbrain: HE! we are even more excited if you do both!
2010-05-10 09:47 <emdete> tuxbrain: the kernel is the one from pyneo.org?
2010-05-10 09:48 <tuxbrain> emdete:yes
2010-05-10 09:50 <emdete> i'm a bit lost. larsc, do u have any idea what could go wrong?
2010-05-10 11:03 <josch> tuxbrain: ping
2010-05-10 11:04 <tuxbrain> josch: pong
2010-05-10 11:04 <josch> tuxbrain: i just built a 75MB ubifs debian rootfs
2010-05-10 11:04 <josch> tuxbrain: i will now upload the ubi image and a tarball
2010-05-10 11:04 <josch> it boots fine and one can login with user: root and no pw
2010-05-10 11:05 <tuxbrain> ok I will try once uploaded, I hope I have more luck than with the big one
2010-05-10 11:05 <josch> tuxbrain: the big one from pyneo.org?
2010-05-10 11:05 <tuxbrain> yep
2010-05-10 11:06 <josch> tuxbrain: what happened there?
2010-05-10 11:06 <emdete> tuxbrain: i think we have to fix in the beginning, probably u-boot or kernel is to blame, not the rootfs...
2010-05-10 11:06 <tuxbrain> http://www.tuxbrain.com/sites/default/files/debiankernelpanic.jpg
2010-05-10 11:07 <tuxbrain> emdete: I agree too
2010-05-10 11:07 <emdete> tuxbrain: vegyraupe succeeded with it, maybe we try to track down the diffs between your doiings and his
2010-05-10 11:09 <vegyraupe> tuxbrain: dif you use the newest uboot ?
2010-05-10 11:09 <vegyraupe> newest == latest
2010-05-10 11:09 <tuxbrain> yep only black screen
2010-05-10 11:10 <vegyraupe> which one r u using now ?
2010-05-10 11:11 <tuxbrain> the one xianfu compliled with uart on tp4 tp5 ,
2010-05-10 11:11 <tuxbrain> http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/xiangfu/tmp/openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-u-boot.bin
2010-05-10 11:11 <vegyraupe> hm
2010-05-10 11:12 <tuxbrain> it also has lcd kernel log
2010-05-10 11:12 <vegyraupe> k tell you waht
2010-05-10 11:13 <vegyraupe> I am gonna upload the uboot I used
2010-05-10 11:13 <tuxbrain> ok, I will try
2010-05-10 11:13 <vegyraupe> emdete: I used ur kernel, right?
2010-05-10 11:13 <tuxbrain> flashing uboot better that reflashing rootfs :P
2010-05-10 11:14 <emdete> vegyraupe: yes. you need to, fpu-emu, partition & inotify are needed
2010-05-10 11:14 <vegyraupe> ok
2010-05-10 11:14 <emdete> vegyraupe: we have to agree on that with the openwrt guys...
2010-05-10 11:14 <emdete> fpu is in discussion...
2010-05-10 11:15 <vegyraupe> so the only difference between tuxbrain's and my stories are the uboots
2010-05-10 11:15 <tuxbrain> vegyraupe: yep
2010-05-10 11:15 <vegyraupe> I am trying to find it
2010-05-10 11:15 <vegyraupe> not sure where i put it
2010-05-10 11:15 <vegyraupe> give me a few
2010-05-10 11:17 <tuxbrain> <dramatical mode> the future of copyleft hardware is on that uboot </dramatical mode>
2010-05-10 11:17 <vegyraupe> :D
2010-05-10 11:17 <tuxbrain> vegyraupe:I see a drop of sweet in you front?
2010-05-10 11:20 <emdete> tuxbrain: which probably just fall into his notebook triggering a short-circuit...
2010-05-10 11:20 <emdete> vegyraupe: still there?
2010-05-10 11:21 <vegyraupe> emdete: yepp
2010-05-10 11:21 <vegyraupe> saved the drop from destroying the universe
2010-05-10 11:21 <emdete> :D
2010-05-10 11:21 <josch> tuxbrain: http://mister-muffin.de/nanonote/
2010-05-10 11:21 <tuxbrain> josch: BTW what you have put in the small rootfs  and what differs with actual minimal?
2010-05-10 11:22 <josch> tuxbrain: the following packages have been added:
2010-05-10 11:22 <emdete> josch: it's completly new and not based on mine, right?
2010-05-10 11:23 <vegyraupe> tuxbrain: try http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/vegyraupe/openwrt-xburst-u-boot.bin
2010-05-10 11:23 <josch> tuxbrain: udev,module-init-tools,sysklogd,klogd,psmisc,mtd-utils,ntpdate,debconf-english,locales,screen,less,vim-tiny,console-tools,conspy,console-setup-mini,man-db,fbset,input-utils,libts-bin,ifupdown,netbase,iputils-ping,dhcp3-client,curl,wget,openssh-server,vpnc,rsync
2010-05-10 11:23 <josch> emdete: yes i built it anew
2010-05-10 11:23 <josch> this is also the reason libts-bin is in there
2010-05-10 11:23 <josch> because i wrote the script for the openmoko platform
2010-05-10 11:24 <tuxbrain> josch: tar.lzma content=ubi content?
2010-05-10 11:24 <emdete> conspy is cool... :D wasnt ifupdown already in?
2010-05-10 11:24 <emdete> tuxbrain: still wanting to boot from sd? :D
2010-05-10 11:24 <josch> tuxbrain: no it is a tarball of the rootfs
2010-05-10 11:25 <josch> tuxbrain: i remember you wanted to put it on sd
2010-05-10 11:25 <josch> emdete: what do you mean by "already in"?
2010-05-10 11:25 <emdete> in my mini-rootfs
2010-05-10 11:25 <tuxbrain> yep :) , wolf and vegy knows how I supply my lack of knowledge, with pure obstination
2010-05-10 11:26 <josch> emdete: might be but only because you installed it - i can check that later
2010-05-10 11:27 <emdete> josch: don't need to. i just point my wiki to you page ;)
2010-05-10 11:27 <emdete> (and forget about my rootfs)
2010-05-10 11:29 <josch> emdete: dont do that yet
2010-05-10 11:29 <emdete> sure
2010-05-10 11:29 <josch> emdete: i'm still not finished with it
2010-05-10 11:30 <emdete> we settle down you stuff and then we switch
2010-05-10 11:31 <tuxbrain> no luck just flashing the uboot, same result as uboot of lastest release
2010-05-10 11:32 <vegyraupe> tuxbrain: I suggest you empty the whole NAND
2010-05-10 11:32 <tuxbrain> I will wipe out whole nand and start again, I will flash the smaller rootfs this time
2010-05-10 11:32 <vegyraupe> and then go to usbboot manually
2010-05-10 11:32 <vegyraupe> yes
2010-05-10 11:45 <tuxbrain> let fanfares sound loud and proud!!! I boot in debian :) :) :)
2010-05-10 11:50 <tuxbrain> vegyraupe: does that uboot has the lastests xianfu patches on uart stuff?
2010-05-10 11:50 <emdete> tuxbrain: what did you do different this time?
2010-05-10 11:51 <tuxbrain> vegyraupe uboot + josch rootfs
2010-05-10 11:51 <tuxbrain> pyneo kernel
2010-05-10 11:51 <josch> oh n1ce
2010-05-10 11:52 <emdete> von allem nur das beste
2010-05-10 11:52 <emdete> oh, sry
2010-05-10 11:52 <emdete> vegyraupe: could you translate? :D
2010-05-10 11:53 <vegyraupe> hrhr
2010-05-10 11:53 <vegyraupe> the best of both worlds :)
2010-05-10 11:53 <vegyraupe> I guess
2010-05-10 11:53 <vegyraupe> ok so the prob is uboot ?
2010-05-10 11:54 <emdete> vegyraupe: both? three! :D
2010-05-10 11:54 <tuxbrain> yep most probably, now that we found a sure combination I will try to reflash the big one again to eliminate that variable also
2010-05-10 11:55 <tuxbrain> emdete: you forguet lamer obstination to the equation
2010-05-10 11:55 <vegyraupe> ok
2010-05-10 11:59 <emdete> :D
2010-05-10 11:59 <tuxbrain> flashing rootfs directly if it doesn't work I will wipe out nand and do vegy-uboot+pineokernel+pineoenourmousedebianrootfs again, if it stillnot working I will return to save trio
2010-05-10 12:00 <tuxbrain> vegyraupe: you know if that uboot has the lastets xiang uart patches?
2010-05-10 12:00 <vegyraupe> tuxbrain: I am sure it doesn't
2010-05-10 12:01 <vegyraupe> it is from the april image
2010-05-10 12:01 <vegyraupe> someone needs to figure out what changed in those 2 uboots
2010-05-10 12:01 <tuxbrain> sh?&t , well we can't have it all isn't it?
2010-05-10 12:01 <vegyraupe> hrhr
2010-05-10 12:01 <vegyraupe> but we can damn well try :D
2010-05-10 12:04 <tuxbrain> yes I hope xiang or larsc wake up from the sofa and put at least this item in their empty todo list :P
2010-05-10 12:04 <vegyraupe> hrhr
2010-05-10 12:07 <tuxbrain> meanwhile I will work in the compiling part of the arduino plan, due flashing has few chances if we can isolate keyboard from uart
2010-05-10 12:08 <tuxbrain> can -> can't
2010-05-10 12:30 <tuxbrain> vegyraupe: now the sweed drop is in my front, does the uboot support the U+Power to flash or was the buggy one that doesn't work?....
2010-05-10 12:31 <tuxbrain> sweed->sweet
2010-05-10 12:33 <vegyraupe> tuxbrain: pwr+U *should* work
2010-05-10 12:35 <tuxbrain> ok I will confirm in a *couple* of minutes
2010-05-10 12:36 <vegyraupe> :D
2010-05-10 13:21 <qi-commits> Juan64Bits: Adding expansion pcb for sakc http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/5938d65
2010-05-10 13:59 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: pwm fixes. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/f1df893
2010-05-10 13:59 <qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: jz4740-battery: Add MODULE_ALIAS entry http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/78fb315
2010-05-10 14:24 <mirko> hrmpf, stupid opkg... :(
2010-05-10 14:24 <mirko> it does not even allow underscores in package names
2010-05-10 14:24 <mirko> well, it does... - but it results in very misleading faults...
2010-05-10 14:25 <mirko> larsc, i guess we have to rename all the libX*-packages as well
2010-05-10 14:25 <mirko> and dependencies to them
2010-05-10 14:26 <mirko> *sigh*
2010-05-10 14:29 <larsc> we could patch opkg
2010-05-10 14:29 <mirko> larsc, yeah, however that way our packages are incompatible with other systems which use opkg
2010-05-10 14:30 <mirko> it's quite common that people are using openwrt-ipk's in their environment
2010-05-10 14:30 <larsc> then we should push that patch upstream
2010-05-10 14:32 <mirko> larsc, you don't think they did that for reason?
2010-05-10 14:32 <larsc> don't know
2010-05-10 15:57 <qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Adding post route simulation to FPGA  examples http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/717c35e
2010-05-10 16:08 <qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Adding plasma test_bench files http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/fa1b48e
2010-05-10 16:09 <qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Adding modelsim simulation files http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/23184f3
2010-05-10 16:43 <tuxbrain> emdete , josch, vegyraupe thanks to the serial output I think I finally arrive at some conclusions see the list post here
2010-05-10 16:43 <tuxbrain> 
2010-05-10 16:43 <tuxbrain> vegyraupe
2010-05-10 16:43 <tuxbrain> here :P http://en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/developer/2010-May/002932.html
2010-05-10 16:43 <tuxbrain> I want to thank you all for the support in this.
2010-05-10 17:41 <maden> !stats test
2010-05-10 17:57 <tuxbrain> maden:?
2010-05-10 17:57 <maden> wrong chan
2010-05-10 17:58 <tuxbrain> :) ok
2010-05-10 18:04 <tuxbrain> is fascinating seing apt-get installing packages
2010-05-10 18:06 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: great news! you did it again
2010-05-10 18:07 <tuxbrain> obstination and friends are powerful weapons :P
2010-05-10 18:07 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: u there? does Debian work on your Nano now?
2010-05-10 18:07 <zear> tuxbrain, any benefits from running debian on nano?
2010-05-10 18:07 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: not
2010-05-10 18:07 <kristianpaul> i need time to test
2010-05-10 18:07 <kristianpaul> now at work
2010-05-10 18:07 <tuxbrain> zear: a looooooooooooooooooooooot of pakages ready to install and play
2010-05-10 18:08 <zear> ;D
2010-05-10 18:08 <zear> any graphical ones? :)
2010-05-10 18:08 <kristianpaul> seems after try some times flashing it works as i was told here before
2010-05-10 18:09 <tuxbrain> zear:not tested yet, I'm focused on compile/flashing arduino stuff
2010-05-10 18:09 <zear> ah, ok
2010-05-10 18:10 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: you shouldn't need to flash several times. either it's flashed or not.
2010-05-10 18:10 <wolfspraul> if it doesn't work after the first flashing, let me know
2010-05-10 18:14 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul: I agree with wolfgang, I have made a lot of trys I think the problem is on the big image , well not really on the rootfs itself is more like uboot/kernel , can't deal with such a monster. take a look at http://en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/developer/2010-May/002932.html and you will find a win combination :)
2010-05-10 20:00 <tuxbrain> it's late and I'm barely falling sleep in front of the keyboard but.... I successfully compiled and Arduino sketch in a Ben NanoNote! :), tomorrow will start the flashing phase and see if every thing was really ok , good night
2010-05-10 20:02 <tuxbrain> good news is that bitrate of upload to Arduino 328 is same as default in ben serial, so let's cross fingers
2010-05-10 20:02 <tuxbrain> isn't free software beatifull?
2010-05-10 20:47 <qwebirc59542> hi, everybody,
2010-05-10 20:47 <qwebirc59542> i'm trying to compile with MAKE the openwrt and always says me this
2010-05-10 20:47 <qwebirc59542>  make[3] -C toolchain/binutils install  make[3] -C toolchain/gcc prepare  make[3] -C toolchain/kernel-headers prepare make -r world: build failed. Please re-run make with V=99 to see what's going on make: *** [world] Error 1
2010-05-10 20:47 <qwebirc59542> just next of TOOLCHAIN/kernel-headers
2010-05-10 23:01 <methril__> tuxbrain_away: it's amazing!! i love it ;)
2010-05-10 23:06 <qi-commits> Juan64Bits: Moving files. http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/7766f63
2010-05-10 23:09 <qi-commits> Juan64Bits: Fixing expansion board. http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/ac9d3c8