2010-04-29 03:24 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: cleanup CFLAGS http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/086c985
2010-04-29 04:10 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: refresh-uboot-patches.patch http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a945822
2010-04-29 05:20 <gnufs> yay! tuxbrain's arduino howto!
2010-04-29 05:21 <gnufs> is, coincidentally, in his first MIPS assembly class workshop
2010-04-29 05:56 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: correct BOOT_FROM_SDCARD check http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/0f1cbcc
2010-04-29 06:23 <tuxbrain> wolfspraul: I was thinking....A video recorded with ephel camera about BNN||SACK||Milky post-produced with Kino(or any other FreeSoft) in a (that's what I lack of information about) an open workstation should be the first movie made with Free Open/hardware tool from beginning to end
2010-04-29 06:23 <tuxbrain> forget about open, I mean free
2010-04-29 06:24 <tuxbrain> Free Hardware/Software tools
2010-04-29 06:51 <vegyraupe> tuxbrain: call at oen ?
2010-04-29 09:05 <gnufs> rolls his thumbs and waits for his nanonote to arrive
2010-04-29 09:36 <tuxbrain_away> gnufs: it's on Berlin since 07:47, so I guess it will arrive at any time today
2010-04-29 09:41 <rafa> tuxbrain_away: about the first movie made with free hardware/software : Great idea man :D
2010-04-29 09:43 <tuxbrain_away> rafa: any suggestion of free hardware workstation to do the postproduction?
2010-04-29 09:43 <gnufs> \o/ the courrier is here!
2010-04-29 09:43 <gnufs> please let oit bethe nano!~
2010-04-29 09:43 <larsc> :)
2010-04-29 09:44 <tuxbrain_away> hehehe firt time I follow a delivery live :)
2010-04-29 09:44 <tuxbrain_away> s/firt/first
2010-04-29 09:44 <gnufs> omg omg omg!
2010-04-29 09:45 <rafa> tuxbrain_away: I do not know if the laptot of RMS is easy to get :).. Another idea would be to use just text video editors from  command  line, and to use a Ben ;)
2010-04-29 09:46 <rafa> tuxbrain: I mean, video editors from console.. no for text :P
2010-04-29 09:46 <rafa> (without GUI)
2010-04-29 09:46 <gnufs> tuxbrain: you have packed the thing very well
2010-04-29 09:46 <gnufs> maybe even too well in fact :)
2010-04-29 09:47 <tuxbrain> uff, we will have enough ben playing videos , editing I guess will be too much for the 32Mb to encode fast enough
2010-04-29 09:47 <gnufs> finally reaches to the black box under the onion layers
2010-04-29 09:47 <tuxbrain> heheh gnufs, noting a good knife can handle (jack the ripper dixit)
2010-04-29 09:48 <tuxbrain>  nothing a good knife can't handle (jack the ripper dixit)
2010-04-29 09:48 <gnufs> holds the nano in his hands first time
2010-04-29 09:48 <gnufs> i think
2010-04-29 09:48 <gnufs> i think i've fallen in love
2010-04-29 09:48 <rafa> tuxbrain: I know how to cut/paste from command line.. and also how to add subtitles.. perhaps 32MB is okey if we have patient ;)
2010-04-29 09:48 <tuxbrain> XD XD XD I understand you man
2010-04-29 09:49 <gnufs> wow, my biggest worry was the keyboard, but this is pretty good
2010-04-29 09:49 <kristianpaul> gnufs: cheers !
2010-04-29 09:49 <kristianpaul> indeed
2010-04-29 09:49 <tuxbrain> rafa:I think I will preffer milkymist to do that job instead of ben
2010-04-29 09:49 <kristianpaul> also screen but seems okay after a while
2010-04-29 09:50 <gnufs> much better than i'd expect from any sub-300euro device of any producer, in fact
2010-04-29 09:50 <kristianpaul> hola rafa
2010-04-29 09:50 <tuxbrain> yes, hardware quality of the device is notable
2010-04-29 09:51 <gnufs> wishes he had gone with his instinct and ordered two of these babies at once
2010-04-29 09:51 <rafa> tuxbrain: ah.. you are right. I did not know about milkymist
2010-04-29 09:51 <tuxbrain> too :P
2010-04-29 09:51 <gnufs> :)
2010-04-29 09:52 <kristianpaul> milkymist !
2010-04-29 09:53 <gnufs> loves seeing the GPLv3 and CC-BY-SA 3.0 license text at the end of the manual
2010-04-29 09:53 <tuxbrain> rafa: now we enter the geeky jugling  game, we should ssh milky with the nano and do the editing trough command line using ben as keyboard/screen
2010-04-29 09:53 <gnufs> and it boots! \o/
2010-04-29 09:53 <kristianpaul> of course
2010-04-29 09:54 <tuxbrain> gnufs: remember to charge the battery for a while first time :P (it's an urband legend?)
2010-04-29 09:54 <kristianpaul> lol
2010-04-29 09:55 <gnufs> tuxbrain: i think it's an urban legend with the new lithium batteries
2010-04-29 09:56 <gnufs> is mesmerized by seeing such a recent kernel version in an embedded device
2010-04-29 09:56 <rafa> tuxbrain: ;-))
2010-04-29 09:56 <tuxbrain> gnufs: :) one of the qi-hardware principles, dude :)
2010-04-29 09:57 <larsc> gnufs: recent? 2.6.32 is outdated, i have 2.6.34-rc5 on my nanonote ;)
2010-04-29 09:58 <tuxbrain> larsc: wow, any notable improvement ?
2010-04-29 09:58 <larsc> no
2010-04-29 09:59 <larsc> just keeping things uptodate
2010-04-29 09:59 <tuxbrain> larsc: hehehe man I love your categorical negative replies
2010-04-29 10:00 <larsc> well, most of the kernel stuff is done.
2010-04-29 10:01 <larsc> and i fear we won't see any notable improvements there.
2010-04-29 10:01 <wolfspraul> larsc: how about the NAND timings?
2010-04-29 10:01 <tuxbrain> good news, then :). time to focuse in user software :)
2010-04-29 10:01 <gnufs> hmm, it doesn't seem to have a /proc/acpi/battery/...
2010-04-29 10:01 <larsc> wolfspraul: i tried faster timings and it changed nothing
2010-04-29 10:02 <wolfspraul> hmm. I see.
2010-04-29 10:02 <larsc> gnufs: /sys/class/power/battery
2010-04-29 10:02 <gnufs> ah
2010-04-29 10:02 <gnufs> thanks
2010-04-29 10:02 <wolfspraul> screen brightness?
2010-04-29 10:02 <larsc> wolfspraul: already done
2010-04-29 10:02 <wolfspraul> larsc: is openinkpot using the openwrt kernel as well now?
2010-04-29 10:02 <wolfspraul> larsc: oh wow! :-) [screen brightness]
2010-04-29 10:03 <larsc> wolfspraul: theirs is based on the openwrt/qi kernel
2010-04-29 10:03 <tuxbrain> larsc:wow+1
2010-04-29 10:03 <gnufs> and it comes with screen! smart..
2010-04-29 10:04 <larsc> wolfspraul: actually now that i think of it it might haven been an improvement of 10% due to better nand timings. mounting time went down from 10 to 9 seconds.
2010-04-29 10:06 <larsc> tuxbrain: and the more i think about notable improvements: There is one thing that needs to be done and thats using DMA for mmc transfers
2010-04-29 10:07 <gnufs> umm, and which file gives the current capacity left on the battery?
2010-04-29 10:07 <gnufs> guesses he should do a thorough RTFM session before flooding the channel any more questions
2010-04-29 10:08 <gnufs> okay, one last basic question: does it charge over USB?
2010-04-29 10:09 <kristianpaul> yes
2010-04-29 10:09 <tuxbrain> larsc:yes this will be a great
2010-04-29 10:09 <tuxbrain> gnufs:that was easy, yes
2010-04-29 10:09 <wolfspraul> larsc: there is also this screen flickering that I still see
2010-04-29 10:10 <tuxbrain> see flickering too
2010-04-29 10:10 <kristianpaul> is driver issue
2010-04-29 10:10 <wolfspraul> if you compare with the proprietary software, it's a _huge_ difference
2010-04-29 10:10 <kristianpaul> not hardware
2010-04-29 10:10 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: awake? :O
2010-04-29 10:11 <wolfspraul> in fact when the factory workers saw the openwrt splash screen booting, the quality people immediately said devices with that much flickering would not pass their OQC (outgoing quality control) standards :-)
2010-04-29 10:11 <wolfspraul> but of course the test is done with the proprietary software so we know it could be better
2010-04-29 10:11 <larsc> wolfspraul: i had a look at it during the past days and i couldn't find anything to fix it
2010-04-29 10:11 <wolfspraul> can you see the flickering?
2010-04-29 10:11 <larsc> yes
2010-04-29 10:12 <wolfspraul> ah good, that's a start
2010-04-29 10:12 <kristianpaul> lol?
2010-04-29 10:12 <larsc> it's most visible with contrast=min and brightness=max
2010-04-29 10:13 <kristianpaul> larsc: how do you changee contrast and bright?
2010-04-29 10:13 <wolfspraul> I have some very basic testing sources somewhere, I try to find them. Maybe there is a clue in how they enable/drive the LCM.
2010-04-29 10:13 <larsc> kristianpaul: /sys/class/lcd/gpm*/{brightness,contrast}
2010-04-29 10:13 <kristianpaul> larsc: there is a way of do it with gmu?
2010-04-29 10:13 <larsc> wolfspraul: i could reduce the flicking though. but it's still there
2010-04-29 10:14 <larsc> kristianpaul: i guess not
2010-04-29 10:14 <kristianpaul> ok
2010-04-29 10:15 <kristianpaul> i just want reduce bright to save energy
2010-04-29 10:15 <kristianpaul> ogg seems to require energy
2010-04-29 10:15 <larsc> kristianpaul: won't save you much energy. cause it's the color brightness not the backlight brightness
2010-04-29 10:17 <tuxbrain> larsc:ok when you talk about brightness I think you where talking about backlight, so wow +0,5 only :P
2010-04-29 10:18 <kristianpaul> there is way to reduce backlight then?
2010-04-29 10:19 <larsc> according to the specs it should be possible. but it does not work
2010-04-29 10:19 <tuxbrain> larsc: and simply on/off
2010-04-29 10:19 <tuxbrain> ?
2010-04-29 10:19 <kristianpaul> ?
2010-04-29 10:20 <kristianpaul> but this is not a qi display i think..
2010-04-29 10:20 <kristianpaul> how readeable will be after off :/
2010-04-29 10:20 <kristianpaul> tuxbrain: black colored themes ;)
2010-04-29 10:20 <tuxbrain> gmu turns black when idle, but backlight still on I guess, so turning totally off will save some batt
2010-04-29 10:21 <larsc> tuxbrain: hum. that should be possible(according to the specs). haven't tried yet, cause i don't know how usefull it will be
2010-04-29 10:21 <kristianpaul> my idea is have a read mode
2010-04-29 10:22 <larsc> tuxbrain: when gmu turns the screen black it also turns down the display.
2010-04-29 10:22 <larsc> at least here
2010-04-29 10:22 <larsc> it does
2010-04-29 10:22 <kristianpaul> yes
2010-04-29 10:22 <kristianpaul> is screen at all
2010-04-29 10:23 <kristianpaul> wonders if there are plans to change display technology in Ya
2010-04-29 10:23 <tuxbrain> ok so I have not said nothing  ,
2010-04-29 10:23 <wolfspraul> larsc: I digged up some codes I got once to 'help' us with the flickering, they are totally horrible codes but maybe there is a clue in there... maybe not...
2010-04-29 10:23 <wolfspraul> http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/wolfgang/foxconn_pt035tn01.oldlcd.c
2010-04-29 10:24 <wolfspraul> http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/wolfgang/foxconn_pt035tn01.newlcd.c
2010-04-29 10:24 <wolfspraul> not sure what the point of 'old' and 'new' was, I got this already months ago
2010-04-29 10:24 <larsc> prototype and production display?
2010-04-29 10:25 <wolfspraul> yeah maybe, AUO & Giantplus. not sure.
2010-04-29 10:27 <larsc> but yes they do look good. if you have a nanonote at your hands you could even try if it makes a difference
2010-04-29 10:28 <wolfspraul> that was my plan, but in my never ending todo list I wish I could even get to the wiki pages I promised David months ago
2010-04-29 10:28 <wolfspraul> but yes, I will try asap
2010-04-29 10:28 <larsc> don't worry i'll try them later today...
2010-04-29 10:33 <larsc> hm. they do write to registers which are not documented
2010-04-29 10:34 <wolfspraul> larsc: great that would be fantastic [try them later]
2010-04-29 10:34 <wolfspraul> registers on the Giantplus or Ingenic side?
2010-04-29 10:35 <larsc> giantplus
2010-04-29 10:35 <wolfspraul> ok, just shoot your questions and we'll forward to Giantplus who knows maybe we even get an answer...
2010-04-29 10:35 <wolfspraul> :-)
2010-04-29 10:36 <wolfspraul> I'm out for the day, will catch up with the irclogs tomorrow. good thing now I don't miss stuff anymore.
2010-04-29 10:36 <gnufs> now let's see how this baby handles heat
2010-04-29 10:36 <gnufs> runs yes > /dev/null
2010-04-29 10:42 <gnufs> hmm, it takes it very well
2010-04-29 10:43 <zear> well, it's mips, not x86
2010-04-29 10:43 <gnufs> just a very faint heat on the keyboard's surface
2010-04-29 10:43 <gnufs> zear: ya
2010-04-29 10:43 <larsc> won't work as a heater :/
2010-04-29 10:43 <mstevens> erk, how did a gnufs get in here, I thought you were safely locked up in #gnewsense
2010-04-29 10:44 <gnufs> mstevens: i got banned again, so found myself a new project to work on :)
2010-04-29 10:44 <gnufs> okay, now let's test the nokia battries
2010-04-29 10:45 <gnufs> oh, the nokia BL-4C fits very well
2010-04-29 10:47 <gnufs> hmm, infact maybe a little too well
2010-04-29 10:47 <zear> and if you shake the nanonote, the battery disconnects? :D
2010-04-29 10:47 <gnufs> it's just a wee bit too small horizontally, and would need a tiny object like a piece of paper to make sure the contacts are touching
2010-04-29 10:47 <zear> i had that problem with the sagem battery
2010-04-29 10:49 <zear> gnufs, if you have any ideas for the new columns in the compatible batteries wiki article, feel free to expand it ;)
2010-04-29 10:50 <zear> i basically added what i thought might be useful, but i'm not a technican, so maybe there's something important i overlooked
2010-04-29 10:51 <gnufs> zear: hah, was creating a new column just as you wrote that
2010-04-29 10:51 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 10:55 <gnufs> oh and nokia BL-5C (the 1020mAh battery) also fits okay, and even the lid closes when you push it down with a little force :)
2010-04-29 10:56 <gnufs> but with the same shortness problem like the BL-4C
2010-04-29 10:58 <gnufs> i also have the freerunner battery but it's already tested :)
2010-04-29 10:58 <zear> yeah, easy to fall out
2010-04-29 10:59 <gnufs> updates http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Compatible_batteries with his findings
2010-04-29 11:07 <zear> gnufs, can you check if your nokia batteries charge with ben?
2010-04-29 11:08 <zear> the red led should turn on if it charges the battery
2010-04-29 11:11 <gnufs> good idea
2010-04-29 11:13 <gnufs> oh, the red light lights up!
2010-04-29 11:16 <gnufs> and battery status file confirms
2010-04-29 11:18 <zear> yay
2010-04-29 11:19 <zear> then it should be a good replacement battery available on the market
2010-04-29 11:19 <kristianpaul> :)
2010-04-29 11:19 <kristianpaul> needs two for longs trips
2010-04-29 11:21 <zear> hmm.. the led turn on when i put my sagem battery as well
2010-04-29 11:21 <zear> i think i must have not been touching the pins when i first tested it
2010-04-29 11:25 <gnufs> confirms charging and status on BL-5C too
2010-04-29 11:27 <gnufs> gives a try to the fr battery
2010-04-29 11:28 <zear> it does charge it
2010-04-29 11:28 <zear> just tested
2010-04-29 11:28 <gnufs> :)
2010-04-29 11:30 <gnufs> 's desk is full of batteries and opened devices
2010-04-29 11:30 <gnufs> now let's try to find which belongs to which :)
2010-04-29 11:30 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 11:30 <zear> has a lot of batteries that have pins located on the opposide side
2010-04-29 11:31 <gnufs> can smell the burnt lithium from zear's soldering iron
2010-04-29 11:32 <zear> don't worry about it, i can't solder :D
2010-04-29 11:33 <kristianpaul> zear: in that "battery bag" you have, there is one for long charge?
2010-04-29 11:33 <gnufs> everybody can solder. soldering actually what you want you want to what you want is the skill that needs practice :)
2010-04-29 11:33 <kristianpaul> maybe twice that nano actual charge
2010-04-29 11:33 <zear> kristianpaul, what you mean by long charge?
2010-04-29 11:33 <kristianpaul> long life*
2010-04-29 11:33 <zear> ah, the freerunner battery, probably
2010-04-29 11:34 <zear> you think it could charge it just half the way in the nano?
2010-04-29 11:34 <gnufs> kristianpaul: compare the mAh's on http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Compatible_batteries
2010-04-29 11:34 <kristianpaul> gnufs: what are you goint to do with your nano?
2010-04-29 11:34 <zear> or overcharge it, if it has a smaller capacity?
2010-04-29 11:34 <gnufs> kristianpaul: i have a few secret projects
2010-04-29 11:34 <kristianpaul> ah ok
2010-04-29 11:35 <kristianpaul>  disclosure :/
2010-04-29 11:35 <kristianpaul> gnufs: GSM networks related btw? ..
2010-04-29 11:35 <kristianpaul> :D
2010-04-29 11:36 <gnufs> no
2010-04-29 11:36 <kristianpaul> ahh
2010-04-29 11:36 <gnufs> well at least not till you suggested it :)
2010-04-29 11:36 <kristianpaul> :)
2010-04-29 11:37 <gnufs> oh the fun we could have if nano had a usb host
2010-04-29 11:38 <kristianpaul> if a usb host could fit in a CPLD i'll could give  a try
2010-04-29 11:42 <kristianpaul> what are the mAh of Sagem my500x  battery?
2010-04-29 11:43 <kristianpaul> need 2000 mAh
2010-04-29 11:43 <jxself> zaps kristianpaulwith 2000 mAh
2010-04-29 11:43 <kristianpaul> buzzing
2010-04-29 11:44 <jxself> You're all charged up now, huh?
2010-04-29 11:46 <kristianpaul> nobody
2010-04-29 11:46 <kristianpaul> ops
2010-04-29 11:46 <kristianpaul> i'm
2010-04-29 11:50 <gnufs> may have an fsfe representative from their berlin office to inspect the nano in a few hours
2010-04-29 11:52 <jxself> Cool.
2010-04-29 11:53 <jxself> wants to buy a Nano
2010-04-29 11:54 <gnufs> you can't buy nano
2010-04-29 11:54 <gnufs> nano chooses you
2010-04-29 11:54 <jxself> :)
2010-04-29 11:55 <jxself> I like the idea that djbclark had to create a fork of OpenWRT so that the FSF could endorse the Nano.
2010-04-29 11:55 <gnufs> that reminds me
2010-04-29 11:55 <jxself> About?
2010-04-29 11:55 <gnufs> so, is the OpenWRT the popular distro of the nano development community?
2010-04-29 11:56 <kristianpaul> yes
2010-04-29 11:56 <kristianpaul> so far
2010-04-29 11:56 <kristianpaul> who bets to port minix3 in the nano? ;)
2010-04-29 11:57 <jxself> djbclark's plan was to use the linux-libre kernel & make other changes so as to meet the FSF's guidelines for a free distro but I think that the project may have stalled. :(
2010-04-29 11:58 <kristianpaul> jxself: no
2010-04-29 11:58 <jxself> No?
2010-04-29 11:58 <jxself> Good!
2010-04-29 11:58 <kristianpaul> jxself: theere is a kernel out there
2010-04-29 11:58 <kristianpaul> an image*
2010-04-29 11:58 <jxself> Yeah: I remember Robert put something together but I thought it was just a normal build of OpenWRT?
2010-04-29 11:59 <jxself> If someone's made the linux-libre kernels work, then I'm excited.
2010-04-29 12:07 <gnufs> http://aligunduz.org/img/nano-ssh.png
2010-04-29 12:07 <gnufs> awesome! \o/
2010-04-29 12:25 <qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Adding  blink driver demo http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/6caf52e
2010-04-29 12:46 <gnufs> we have the pulse! \o/
2010-04-29 12:46 <gnufs> http://aligunduz.org/img/nano-ping.jpg
2010-04-29 12:47 <zear> hmm.. what's with the "CECT C3100 Analysis" page on the qi-hardware wiki? Are you guys planning to port linux to that device?
2010-04-29 12:47 <zear> because if so - that would be really interesting. I always wanted a linux phone that looks like a phone and works like a phone. Unlike the freerunner ;D
2010-04-29 12:59 <tuxbrain> Regarding batteries, (end) next week I will reciebe a bunch of Nanonote batteries
2010-04-29 13:00 <larsc> hm. the screen flicker seems to be gone with the new values
2010-04-29 13:01 <tuxbrain> yay!!!! lars
2010-04-29 13:02 <larsc> gmenu2x ruins it though
2010-04-29 13:03 <tuxbrain> ?, time to recode it?or replace it
2010-04-29 13:22 <gnufs> and the fsfe guy is playing quake! ---> http://aligunduz.org/img/nano-quake.jpg
2010-04-29 13:26 <kristianpaul> :)
2010-04-29 13:49 <qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Adding simulation files to blink example http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/0348078
2010-04-29 15:23 <gnufs> i run "opkg update" and then "opkg list-upgradable" shows a bunch of things that can upgraded
2010-04-29 15:23 <gnufs> but when i run "opkg upgrade" it acts as if i just ran "opkg" and lists the documentation
2010-04-29 15:23 <gnufs> any suggestions?
2010-04-29 15:24 <gnufs> oh and it spits "* pkg_get_installed_files: Failed to open //usr/lib/opkg/info/DirectFB.list: No such file or directory." warnings
2010-04-29 15:25 <gnufs> oh saw a temporary fix at http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/ben-nanonote/issues/56/
2010-04-29 15:27 <gnufs> hmm, the warning has gone but my upgrade problem continues
2010-04-29 15:41 <gnufs> tuxbrain: btw i'm recruiting other people to buy nano from tuxbrain.net. where's my commission, dude? ;)
2010-04-29 15:45 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 15:46 <gnufs> okay, i give up, how do i upgrade packages on this?
2010-04-29 15:54 <kristianpaul> hmm
2010-04-29 15:55 <kristianpaul> gnufs: do you already upgrade the uboot and openqrt image?
2010-04-29 15:55 <kristianpaul> with xburs tools atc..
2010-04-29 16:10 <gnufs> kristianpaul: no
2010-04-29 16:10 <kristianpaul> gnufs: you should
2010-04-29 16:11 <kristianpaul> thre is a script for that
2010-04-29 16:11 <gnufs> is there a special reason?
2010-04-29 16:13 <kristianpaul> upgrade !
2010-04-29 16:13 <kristianpaul> :)
2010-04-29 16:13 <kristianpaul> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/How_to_reflash
2010-04-29 16:24 <tuxbrain> gnufs:Actually we are not ready yet to update the nano firmware trough opkg , you should do a clean install on each release, we will arrive there but we are not yet
2010-04-29 16:24 <gnufs> oh
2010-04-29 16:29 <gnufs> btw, does anyone know of a framebuffer or directFB programming manual?
2010-04-29 16:29 <gnufs> there is plenty of docs on directfb's wiki but the ones i've looked at are mostly about porting already written GUI stuff onto directfb
2010-04-29 16:31 <tuxbrain> gnufs: SDL,GTK and QT libraries on ben use directly framebuffer so you can do a gui using qt tools and then "just" crosscompile them using openwrt tools
2010-04-29 16:33 <tuxbrain> gnufs: I just read about the commision ..... make me sale 1000 and we will talk again
2010-04-29 16:33 <tuxbrain> _P
2010-04-29 16:33 <tuxbrain> :P
2010-04-29 16:35 <gnufs> tuxbrain: i don't want porting GUI framework apps to fb. i want to work with fb itself
2010-04-29 16:35 <tuxbrain> ok
2010-04-29 16:40 <zear> tuxbrain, oh yeah, how are the nanonote sales?
2010-04-29 16:40 <zear> and when do i need to return your wiz? as i had barely any time to play with it yet
2010-04-29 16:42 <tuxbrain> zear: don't hurry, do your tests and whatever you had planned, I was mentalized to don't see my wiz for a month :P if you need more time just tell me
2010-04-29 16:44 <tuxbrain> gnufx: have already read this? https://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/03/EmbeddedGraphics.pdf
2010-04-29 16:45 <gnufs> i certainly did not!
2010-04-29 16:45 <tuxbrain> is very light, barely an abstract but points to some framebuffer sources
2010-04-29 16:46 <gnufs> gracias
2010-04-29 16:47 <tuxbrain> is just a shopkeeper so my judjement on tech stuff is as valid as a fisherman about F1 motor setup
2010-04-29 16:48 <zear> btw tuxbrain, i remember you mentioning jornada 6xx in one of your posts on the mailing list
2010-04-29 16:48 <tuxbrain> zear: yes
2010-04-29 16:48 <zear> Do you use jlime with it?
2010-04-29 16:48 <tuxbrain> my first beloved embedded linux device, yes with jlime
2010-04-29 16:48 <zear> as my whole adventure with non-x86 linux devices started with jornada 720 :)
2010-04-29 16:49 <zear> never seen you on #jlime though
2010-04-29 16:50 <tuxbrain> I have abandoned chat stuff for a long time until #qi-hardware
2010-04-29 16:50 <zear> ah, right
2010-04-29 16:50 <zear> well, in any case, if you're still interested in your jornada, we have a jlime meeting this year in poland
2010-04-29 16:50 <zear> around september
2010-04-29 16:50 <zear> and of course everyone is welcome
2010-04-29 16:50 <zear> (i think everyone is :D)
2010-04-29 16:51 <tuxbrain> I'm more interested in see jlime ported to Nano :)
2010-04-29 16:51 <zear> me and two other members of jlime have their nanos
2010-04-29 16:51 <zear> so jlime port for the nanonote should progress faster than before now
2010-04-29 16:52 <tuxbrain> Now my jornada has gained a higlighted position in my selft,
2010-04-29 16:53 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 16:53 <tuxbrain> I have done OS practice of university with it in train, basically compiling C stuff under GNU linux
2010-04-29 16:53 <zear> i used to take down notes from the lectures with it
2010-04-29 16:53 <tuxbrain> so I code an compile on the go :)
2010-04-29 16:53 <zear> but this year i'm skipping most of the classes, so don't use jornada anymore :D
2010-04-29 16:54 <tuxbrain> bad guy
2010-04-29 16:54 <zear> i wish ben's keybord was like jornada's
2010-04-29 16:54 <tuxbrain> yes jornada has te better keyboard I have seen on a small device ever
2010-04-29 16:54 <zear> i agree
2010-04-29 16:55 <tuxbrain> small enough to be portable, and big enough to write with two hands
2010-04-29 16:55 <zear> unfortunately, the screen reaction time is low
2010-04-29 16:56 <tuxbrain> and processor was sloooooow (remember I have a 680)
2010-04-29 16:56 <zear> in 720 (200MHz arm) it's better, but still slow
2010-04-29 16:56 <zear> but enough to handle sdl games like doom or duke3d
2010-04-29 16:57 <tuxbrain> yep, and X and PDF reader, and kismet, and... a lot of stuff I want to see on Nano!
2010-04-29 16:57 <zear> X11 was still slow :P
2010-04-29 16:58 <tuxbrain> but usable, an now we have half the screen and twice the processor :P
2010-04-29 16:59 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 17:00 <zear> and no pcmcia slot for wifi :P
2010-04-29 17:00 <tuxbrain> touché
2010-04-29 17:00 <zear> so, how are the sales of ben going?
2010-04-29 17:01 <gnufs> i still don't understand why the designers decided to have a usb host
2010-04-29 17:01 <zear> to have or not to have?
2010-04-29 17:01 <tuxbrain> to not have, I guess
2010-04-29 17:01 <gnufs> D*not to have
2010-04-29 17:02 <larsc> cause they didn't need it, probably.
2010-04-29 17:02 <gnufs> :/
2010-04-29 17:02 <tuxbrain> gnufs: Ben was an already existed platform originaly to be a Chinese translator
2010-04-29 17:02 <zear> ah, right
2010-04-29 17:02 <gnufs> tuxbrain: oh, didn't know that
2010-04-29 17:03 <larsc> avt2 has usbhost
2010-04-29 17:03 <gnufs> avt2?
2010-04-29 17:03 <zear> so what's the deal with that: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/CECT_C3100_Analysis
2010-04-29 17:03 <tuxbrain> yeah some day we had to write down the full history of how all started :)
2010-04-29 17:03 <zear> are you guys planning to have a linux phone? :D
2010-04-29 17:03 <larsc> gnufs: http://sharism.cc/shop/product_info.php?products_id=11
2010-04-29 17:05 <gnufs> larsc: is it possible to replace it with the board inside the nano?
2010-04-29 17:06 <larsc> if you modify your case a bit, yes
2010-04-29 17:06 <gnufs> :o
2010-04-29 17:06 <tuxbrain> gnufs: you have to do some plastic drilling but yes, I have see one on Fosdeem
2010-04-29 17:06 <tuxbrain> fossdem
2010-04-29 17:06 <zear> larsc, so what's the deal with that cect_c3100 thing? :)
2010-04-29 17:07 <larsc> zear: i have no idea
2010-04-29 17:07 <zear> must ask wolf
2010-04-29 17:07 <larsc> only saw it today in the wiki changes
2010-04-29 17:07 <zear> but it sure looks delicious
2010-04-29 17:07 <gnufs> zear: so they're planning to reverse the phone?
2010-04-29 17:07 <tuxbrain> zear: sharims are near to shenshen or watever is called that is a real big source of gadgets of all kind
2010-04-29 17:07 <gnufs> *reverse engineer
2010-04-29 17:07 <zear> always wanted a linux phone that does look like a phone and works like a phone
2010-04-29 17:07 <zear> unlike a freerunner :D
2010-04-29 17:08 <tuxbrain> they are allwais evaluating products to achive what they achieve with ben
2010-04-29 17:09 <tuxbrain> If they find a good cuality product and manufactures agree to open it, or let them open it providing thech info it can be a candidate to be a next sharism product
2010-04-29 17:10 <zear> i don't think they allowed them to open it :D
2010-04-29 17:10 <zear> at least they would give them the schemes if they agreed for it :D
2010-04-29 17:11 <tuxbrain> maybe they found something intesresting in that phone than worth the try
2010-04-29 17:11 <larsc> maybe they don't have them ;)
2010-04-29 17:11 <tuxbrain> yep this is also posible :) blind copy things is one of the wonderfull chinese habilities
2010-04-29 17:12 <tuxbrain> chinese manufactures
2010-04-29 17:13 <tuxbrain> zear:they achived to do it on Ben, why not on the phone?
2010-04-29 17:13 <zear> but the fact there are companies in china that do reverse engineering for a living shows chinese are super fine with copying everything :P
2010-04-29 17:14 <zear> tuxbrain, that would be awesome. Think about it - a phone that looks like a phone and runs linux
2010-04-29 17:14 <zear> it's almost like that green phone you can't buy anymore
2010-04-29 17:14 <gnufs> put in a free gsm firmware a la OsmocomBB and you've got a deal!
2010-04-29 17:15 <gnufs> ;)
2010-04-29 17:15 <zear> and asterisk
2010-04-29 17:16 <zear> if they'll manage to keep them at the same low cost as they bought that sample units (18USD), they should be cheap enough to buy for your whole family and use with SSL phone calls :D
2010-04-29 17:17 <gnufs> lol, the top shows an httpd process running on the nano
2010-04-29 17:18 <gnufs> what's it for if i may ask?
2010-04-29 17:18 <zear> no idea, but http://192.168.254.101
2010-04-29 17:18 <zear> it's just a useless httpd deamon for a http server on a nanonote
2010-04-29 17:19 <gnufs> an http daemon on such a machine... hah.
2010-04-29 17:20 <zear> well, it *could* have a use as some kind of interface where you can set some settings, like on many routers
2010-04-29 17:21 <tuxbrain> I thing is an heritance from openwrt
2010-04-29 17:21 <zear> yea
2010-04-29 17:22 <tuxbrain> you have network over usb, so you can enable webservices and manage some thing with your browser
2010-04-29 17:22 <tuxbrain> but yes I also thing now is totally useless :P
2010-04-29 17:23 <zear> btw tuxbrain, was the touchscreen in your wiz always that inaccurate? I wonder because when i bought my gp2x, the touchscreen was already faulty
2010-04-29 17:23 <zear> and i wonder if it's the same for the wizes
2010-04-29 17:23 <tuxbrain> it happens some times with some programs
2010-04-29 17:24 <zear> no, there are the whole areas that don't detect the touch
2010-04-29 17:24 <tuxbrain> usually a recalibraition solve this
2010-04-29 17:24 <zear> upper right corner of the screen, especially
2010-04-29 17:24 <zear> nope
2010-04-29 17:24 <zear> it does not
2010-04-29 17:24 <tuxbrain> well maybe it has been broken
2010-04-29 17:25 <tuxbrain> hardware quality on wiz is very very crappy
2010-04-29 17:25 <zear> yea
2010-04-29 17:25 <zear> the only thing i can't do with my gp2x and can on the wiz is tinygl quake/hexen2
2010-04-29 17:26 <zear> the rest is exactly the same speed as on gp2x
2010-04-29 17:26 <tuxbrain> this along the lack of true oppenes has make loss a lot of interest on it
2010-04-29 17:26 <zear> yep
2010-04-29 17:26 <zear> and i don't know why such a design solution to not include minisd charging
2010-04-29 17:27 <zear> and you have to use the special cable
2010-04-29 17:27 <zear> if you lost it - you lose a way to charge your wiz
2010-04-29 17:27 <tuxbrain> has lost the cable
2010-04-29 17:27 <zear> *miniusd
2010-04-29 17:27 <zear> *miniusb
2010-04-29 17:27 <zear> really? how come i got it with your wiz?
2010-04-29 17:27 <zear> unless that's a new one
2010-04-29 17:27 <tuxbrain> new one yep
2010-04-29 17:28 <zear> it fits gp2x's expansion slot as well
2010-04-29 17:28 <zear> but i won't try to plug it to the gp2x and pc
2010-04-29 17:28 <zear> don't want to toast it :D
2010-04-29 17:28 <tuxbrain> now I use it as video player in the car for my doughter in long travels
2010-04-29 17:29 <zear> how long do the batteries last with the video playback?
2010-04-29 17:29 <tuxbrain> I hope I can use a ben to this soon
2010-04-29 17:29 <tuxbrain> well it last 2-3 hours well
2010-04-29 17:29 <zear> ben will never be as good for video playback as the wiz
2010-04-29 17:30 <zear> mplayer with ingenics patches and ipu on the dingoo can barely play anything bigger than 320x240
2010-04-29 17:30 <zear> so you'd have to convert the video first
2010-04-29 17:30 <tuxbrain> yeah I know but my three year doughter is not very strict   :)
2010-04-29 17:30 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 17:31 <zear> buy her a dingoo and mount an analog tv to the back of your seat, so she can watch it on the tv-out :D
2010-04-29 17:32 <tuxbrain> compare the price/size of a ben  with the solution you have proposed and you will have my answer :P
2010-04-29 17:32 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 17:33 <zear> there's a new dingoo comming out, btw
2010-04-29 17:33 <zear> the same cpu, 64RAM, and a wireless radio controlled gamepad
2010-04-29 17:33 <tuxbrain> yea I have hear about it, what do you think
2010-04-29 17:33 <gnufs> I have just found the one thing that irritated my eye about nano!
2010-04-29 17:33 <gnufs> the lack of terminus console font!
2010-04-29 17:33 <zear> well, i was told i'm gonna get a dev sample
2010-04-29 17:33 <zear> i wouldn't buy it normally as i already have two dingoos :D
2010-04-29 17:33 <gnufs> Has anyone changed the console font on nano?
2010-04-29 17:33 <zear> but if it's a free sample - i'd be more than happy to test it :D
2010-04-29 17:34 <zear> gnufs, no, but that should be simple
2010-04-29 17:34 <tuxbrain> gnufs:I think this was discused on list some time ago
2010-04-29 17:34 <zear> tuxbrain, i hope the wireless radio chip supports both receiving and broadcasting
2010-04-29 17:34 <zear> so you could pair two dingoos together for multiplayer gaming
2010-04-29 17:35 <tuxbrain> It can be done but I remember you have to recompile the system
2010-04-29 17:35 <zear> for the font? nah, it should be just a matter of running one command
2010-04-29 17:35 <zear> though forgot the name of it
2010-04-29 17:35 <zear> wejp should know
2010-04-29 17:35 <zear> as he did that before, i think
2010-04-29 17:35 <tuxbrain> I think this sould be a feature to be added in next relases on the image
2010-04-29 17:36 <tuxbrain> is a fisherman with a fish memory
2010-04-29 17:36 <gnufs> "ntpdate[700]: step time server 80.190.97.205 offset -7159.645343 sec"
2010-04-29 17:36 <gnufs> hah
2010-04-29 17:36 <zear> tuxbrain, :D
2010-04-29 17:36 <gnufs> oh wait
2010-04-29 17:36 <gnufs> not what i think
2010-04-29 17:36 <gnufs> anyway
2010-04-29 17:36 <gnufs> good night all! o/
2010-04-29 17:36 <zear> cya
2010-04-29 17:36 <gnufs> it was a very good first day on nanonote
2010-04-29 17:37 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 17:37 <tuxbrain> yep very intesive gnufs, :) se ya
2010-04-29 17:37 <zear> and tomorrow don't forget to try the gmu out
2010-04-29 17:37 <zear> i use it for ogg playback all the time
2010-04-29 17:37 <tuxbrain> yep put reflash on your todo list :)
2010-04-29 17:37 <zear> it has a clamshell design, so it's safer to keep in the pocket than a dingoo
2010-04-29 17:38 <zear> don't need to worry that i scratch the screen
2010-04-29 17:38 <zear> btw tuxbrain, have you tried dosbox out yet?
2010-04-29 17:39 <tuxbrain> or press it to much with a streched jeans and keys and... well
2010-04-29 17:39 <zear> the lack of dosbox interest here makes me wonder
2010-04-29 17:39 <zear> tuxbrain, oh that should break the case of the nanonote
2010-04-29 17:39 <zear> especially that i have a dev model, that perhabs has a thinner plastic?
2010-04-29 17:40 <tuxbrain> nanonote case is stronger than any lcd screen out there for sure
2010-04-29 17:40 <zear> *perhaps
2010-04-29 17:40 <tuxbrain> screens broken that way 2 nanonotes 0 
2010-04-29 17:41 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 17:41 <zear> this is what happened to one of my dingoos when i dropped it on the floor http://wstaw.org/images/free/2009/12/18/772b938e97cce6aedb344def613ac1.jpeg
2010-04-29 17:44 <tuxbrain> hey it looks like my beloved Sony vaio t2xp, (I felt sleep while using it, I wake up with screen that way... I don't want to know what I have done with it while sleeping)
2010-04-29 17:44 <zear> uh oh
2010-04-29 17:45 <tuxbrain> Was a great machine... sniff
2010-04-29 17:45 <tuxbrain> It's beside my jornada on the self
2010-04-29 17:46 <zear> i hope your jornada is in one piece :)
2010-04-29 17:47 <tuxbrain> yep is though like a rock
2010-04-29 17:47 <tuxbrain> the only anoying thing it has is the backup battery
2010-04-29 17:48 <tuxbrain> it drains as hell if you have the main battery discharged
2010-04-29 17:48 <zear> well, it shouldn't matter on jlime
2010-04-29 17:48 <zear> ah, yes
2010-04-29 17:48 <zear> that's because jlime doesn't detect what battery do you use
2010-04-29 17:48 <tuxbrain> :)
2010-04-29 17:49 <zear> and once the main battery is drained, it will run till the backup one is dead
2010-04-29 17:49 <tuxbrain> but any way, did jlime achieve to make the ir work as lirc?
2010-04-29 17:49 <zear> well, i managed to send and receive data via irda on j720
2010-04-29 17:49 <zear> on jlime
2010-04-29 17:49 <zear> dunno about 6xx
2010-04-29 17:49 <tuxbrain> mmm interesting
2010-04-29 17:52 <tuxbrain> maybe I will recover it to try, I was monitoring a conversation with one Japaness guy with lars and they achieved to make a led work with one free gpio, so I was wondering if this led is an irled it can be used as irport on ben, and I have in touch with some guys that are doing cool stuff with IR, irtag.org
2010-04-29 17:53 <tuxbrain> I also need another free gpio to act as receiver
2010-04-29 17:53 <zear> can such a led also receive the data?
2010-04-29 17:53 <zear> or only send it?
2010-04-29 17:53 <tuxbrain> well I need one led an one irsensor
2010-04-29 17:54 <zear> ah, just as i thought. So that would take more place on the ben
2010-04-29 17:54 <tuxbrain> 2 free gpios
2010-04-29 17:54 <zear> what could be achieved with such a led?
2010-04-29 17:54 <zear> except of controlling ben with a remote
2010-04-29 17:54 <zear> or using it as a remote
2010-04-29 17:54 <tuxbrain> visit irtag.org :)
2010-04-29 17:54 <zear> data transfer between two nanos would be slow and easy to lose
2010-04-29 17:55 <zear> the page is inspanish
2010-04-29 17:55 <tuxbrain> they are making a game
2010-04-29 17:55 <zear> oh, you can choose the language
2010-04-29 17:55 <tuxbrain> the also have an english version I though
2010-04-29 17:56 <tuxbrain> using arduino and IR
2010-04-29 17:56 <tuxbrain> a shoting game
2010-04-29 17:56 <zear> sounds cool
2010-04-29 17:58 <tuxbrain> I want to make ben act as judge/master/monitoring tool for the game
2010-04-29 17:58 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 17:59 <tuxbrain> or do a version of the game for use ben as gun :)
2010-04-29 17:59 <zear> doesn't sound very handy :D
2010-04-29 18:00 <tuxbrain> I was master of "Killer" when I was young (once upon a time...)
2010-04-29 18:00 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 18:00 <tuxbrain> you can't imagine what we have used (Killer=RPG on real live)
2010-04-29 18:00 <zear> rocks? :D
2010-04-29 18:01 <zear> and i think real life RPG are called larps
2010-04-29 18:01 <tuxbrain> first rule: the weapon has to be totally harmless
2010-04-29 18:03 <tuxbrain> water guns where the star on summer :)
2010-04-29 18:03 <zear> ha
2010-04-29 18:05 <tuxbrain> yeah you see guys of 15-to 21 years old planing ambush to the enemiy, and start skirting in the middle of the street, and then searching for the master to otorgate puctuation ...
2010-04-29 18:06 <zear> haha
2010-04-29 18:06 <tuxbrain> and now imagine a more elegant version of the game using IR :) and all data stored to just be reade by nanonote
2010-04-29 18:06 <zear> i with i could play like that :D
2010-04-29 18:06 <tuxbrain> to just be readed by
2010-04-29 18:07 <zear> yeah, that sounds very cool
2010-04-29 18:07 <tuxbrain> I enjoy a lot being a player and master
2010-04-29 18:08 <tuxbrain> the level of paranoia you reached when is game you don't know all players is impresive
2010-04-29 18:08 <zear> :D
2010-04-29 18:09 <tuxbrain> well man, time to some sleep
2010-04-29 18:09 <zear> same here
2010-04-29 18:09 <zear> cya man
2010-04-29 21:38 <wolfspraul> larsc: still up? can you tell me which Giantplus registers are undocumented? then I can ask Giantplus...
2010-04-29 21:54 <gnufs> "usbboot: error while loading shared libraries: libconfuse.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
2010-04-29 21:54 <gnufs> ;/
2010-04-29 21:54 <gnufs> *:/
2010-04-29 22:00 <gnufs> hmm, it seems there _is_ a package called libconfuse on debian/ubuntu
2010-04-29 22:00 <gnufs> but don't see such a pack on arch..
2010-04-29 22:01 <kristianpaul> what are yuo installing?
2010-04-29 22:01 <gnufs> xburst-tools
2010-04-29 22:02 <gnufs> usbboot specifically
2010-04-29 22:02 <kristianpaul> by deb ?
2010-04-29 22:02 <kristianpaul> compiling?
2010-04-29 22:02 <gnufs> no, bin tar.gz
2010-04-29 22:02 <kristianpaul> hmm
2010-04-29 22:02 <kristianpaul> i never did that way
2010-04-29 22:02 <kristianpaul> iused deb
2010-04-29 22:02 <gnufs> since i'm not on an apt-based distro
2010-04-29 22:02 <kristianpaul> ahh
2010-04-29 22:02 <kristianpaul> true
2010-04-29 22:02 <kristianpaul> well
2010-04-29 22:02 <kristianpaul> compile
2010-04-29 22:03 <gnufs> neva!
2010-04-29 22:03 <wolfspraul> gnufs: about the battery connector, I need to say the one we have in the NanoNote is not very good
2010-04-29 22:04 <gnufs> okay, i have it installed on an ubuntu setup
2010-04-29 22:05 <wolfspraul> check out the picture at the bottom of this page: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ben_NanoNote_Hardware_Quality
2010-04-29 22:05 <wolfspraul> on the left side is our battery connector (it's a damaged one). on the right side is a better battery connector, that would probably also work with batteries that are slightly shorter.
2010-04-29 22:06 <wolfspraul> unfortunately switching to the better battery connector requires a PCB change, so we couldn't get it in for the Ben. It's definitely something we will try to improve for Ya NanoNote.
2010-04-29 22:06 <gnufs> hah, full of FAILs :)
2010-04-29 22:06 <wolfspraul> just fyi since I saw you experimented with some batteries...
2010-04-29 22:09 <gnufs> thanks for the notice
2010-04-29 22:10 <gnufs> what is a "carbonized rubber"??
2010-04-29 22:12 <kristianpaul> there are plans to include devel packages from openwrt to xburst repository?
2010-04-29 22:12 <gnufs> is it supposed to conduct current or not?
2010-04-29 22:13 <kristianpaul> as python and lua runs, will nice have gcc too
2010-04-29 22:13 <kristianpaul> if is carbonized..
2010-04-29 22:13 <wolfspraul> gnufs: yes I think it's rubber with metal powder mixed into the rubber
2010-04-29 22:13 <kristianpaul> ah
2010-04-29 22:13 <wolfspraul> you should have a little button in your nano box somewhere
2010-04-29 22:14 <wolfspraul> it has a small black dot inside
2010-04-29 22:14 <gnufs> oooh
2010-04-29 22:14 <wolfspraul> that black dot is carbonized rubber
2010-04-29 22:14 <gnufs> so that's what that thing is for!
2010-04-29 22:14 <wolfspraul> yes
2010-04-29 22:14 <wolfspraul> to short the USB boot pins under the battery
2010-04-29 22:14 <wolfspraul> in case you brick u-boot in NAND
2010-04-29 22:15 <gnufs> "Bus 002 Device 005: ID 601a:4740"
2010-04-29 22:15 <gnufs> \o/
2010-04-29 22:15 <gnufs> wolfspraul: thanks!
2010-04-29 22:16 <gnufs> that carbonized mistery would take me literally weeks to solve otherwise :D
2010-04-29 22:27 <gnufs> rolls his fingers while waiting openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-root.ubi to finish downloading
2010-04-29 22:30 <kristianpaul> :)
2010-04-29 22:44 <gnufs> mkaaaay
2010-04-29 22:44 <gnufs> let's see if i bricked the nano
2010-04-29 22:45 <gnufs> and it boots!
2010-04-29 22:45 <gnufs> with a graphical environment!
2010-04-29 22:45 <gnufs> holy moly
2010-04-29 22:48 <gnufs> and it has TTYs! \o/
2010-04-29 22:48 <gnufs> (which is even more useful for me than a graphical environment)
2010-04-29 22:48 <kristianpaul> :)
2010-04-29 22:51 <kristianpaul> gnufs: gmu !
2010-04-29 22:51 <kristianpaul> listen ogg all the time
2010-04-29 22:51 <gnufs> yeah, playing with it right now
2010-04-29 22:53 <gnufs> should disable the gmenu from starting at boot
2010-04-29 22:53 <kristianpaul> gnufs: /etc/init.d/start
2010-04-29 22:53 <kristianpaul> i actully modified it to get mount the second partition to listen music easilly
2010-04-29 22:54 <kristianpaul> wich you should notice now there is a boot partition and other free space for user (default unformated)
2010-04-29 22:54 <gnufs> already has a 16GB microSD full with music and video
2010-04-29 22:55 <kristianpaul> oh
2010-04-29 22:55 <kristianpaul> i wish have atleast 2gb microsd :(
2010-04-29 23:00 <gnufs> hm, trying to play a file from the sd card cause the OS to shut down
2010-04-29 23:00 <gnufs> o wait
2010-04-29 23:00 <gnufs> not
2010-04-29 23:00 <gnufs> or
2010-04-29 23:00 <gnufs> is confused
2010-04-29 23:01 <gnufs> yeah, i think it crashed
2010-04-29 23:06 <kristianpaul> hm
2010-04-29 23:07 <kristianpaul> i'm not sure if openwrt will handle 16Gb of sd
2010-04-29 23:07 <kristianpaul> ny defaukt...
2010-04-29 23:07 <gnufs> but i can browser through it fine
2010-04-29 23:07 <kristianpaul> by*
2010-04-29 23:07 <kristianpaul> hmm
2010-04-29 23:07 <kristianpaul> try copy one song to nand and then play
2010-04-29 23:15 <gnufs> false alarm
2010-04-29 23:15 <gnufs> i repeat, false alarm
2010-04-29 23:15 <gnufs> everything works okay :)
2010-04-29 23:17 <gnufs> btw, this baby would also make a fine alarm clock
2010-04-29 23:18 <gnufs> that little speaker can become quite loud
2010-04-29 23:32 <gnufs> http://aligunduz.org/img/nanonote/time-travel.jpg
2010-04-29 23:32 <qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [uboot-xburst] fix some compile warning http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/b8b3ece
2010-04-29 23:42 <gnufs> who knew quake could be fun...
2010-04-29 23:51 <gnufs> okay, seems like i've achieved enough familiarity with the nano for the first day.
2010-04-29 23:52 <gnufs> tomorrow, i'll start with experimenting on porting and programming side of things