2010-04-28 02:25 The name of the .ubi file on EXT2 must be rootfs.ubi? 2010-04-28 03:18 NaotoHanato, you need use the tgz file not .ubi file. mount your sd card to your system . use "tar zxvf -C /PATH/TO/sd_card_partitons_2/" to extra the rootfs files. 2010-04-28 03:24 xiangfu: which button to press for sd boot? 2010-04-28 03:24 xiangfu: and can you note all the available commmands in the wiki somewhere? 2010-04-28 03:25 vegyraupe, http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Bootloader 2010-04-28 03:26 xiangfu: thx 2010-04-28 03:26 that is very well hidden :) 2010-04-28 03:27 :-) 2010-04-28 03:30 also http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Boot_mode  :-) 2010-04-28 03:32 xiangfu: now uboot also redirects there 2010-04-28 04:48 xiangfu: do you have a uboot laying around for one of the old, white prototypes? (1GB) 2010-04-28 04:49 vegyraupe, wait.. 2010-04-28 04:51 xiangfu: thx 2010-04-28 04:51 http://www.openmobilefree.net/other/downloads/NanoNote/nanonote-1GB.tar.gz 2010-04-28 04:52 vegyraupe, in this package. it's include the usbboot, u-boot, uImage.bin of 1GB board. 2010-04-28 04:52 xiangfu: thx 2010-04-28 04:54 vegyraupe, :-) 2010-04-28 05:04 Xiangfu Liu: add CONF_FIRMWARE to Makefile.am http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/4c7e4f9 2010-04-28 05:04 Xiangfu Liu: code cleanup http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/945e32b 2010-04-28 05:04 Xiangfu Liu: cleanup the configure.ac file, -lconfuse http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/9ed1a76 2010-04-28 05:55 lekernel: hey, I am prepping the next community news http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Community_News_2010-04-28 got to updates from you, anything else that should be mentioned? 2010-04-28 05:57 ahhhhh tuxbrain :) 2010-04-28 05:57 :) 2010-04-28 05:57 allways listening 2010-04-28 05:57 looking forward to your tutorial :) already got a blog post drafted :) 2010-04-28 05:58 hehehehe, today (maybe late night but today I promise) 2010-04-28 05:58 :) 2010-04-28 05:58 ok 2010-04-28 05:58 tuxbrain: is the call on today? 2010-04-28 05:58 better tomorrow, I got a lot of things pending 2010-04-28 05:58 ok 2010-04-28 05:59 just give us a ping :) 2010-04-28 05:59 I't a pitty I haven't a better camera, doing videos with kino 2010-04-28 05:59 vegyraupe: sure 2010-04-28 06:00 doing videos with kino is so easy :) 2010-04-28 06:01 :D 2010-04-28 06:02 working on next hit, arduino+Nanonote+robot arm :) 2010-04-28 06:04 Anybody here has news about playing video on nanonote? I will love to do one demo of playing a video about nanonote, I love recursivity 2010-04-28 06:05 tuxbrain: I ported dfbsee but still need to get xine working with directfb 2010-04-28 06:07 vegyraupe: from total ignorance, but haven't mplayer also works on directfb? at least in Dingoo 2010-04-28 06:08 i didn't get the mplayer to compile 2010-04-28 06:08 i tried but something stopped me 2010-04-28 06:08 not sure what 2010-04-28 06:11 ok 2010-04-28 06:13 tuxbrain: xine is on mirko's todo list 2010-04-28 06:13 not sure how high it is prioritized but it is there :) 2010-04-28 06:14 my prioryty scale is totally blur, basically all is for yesterday :P 2010-04-28 06:23 Xiangfu Liu: update README http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/d61d277 2010-04-28 06:23 Xiangfu Liu: update configure.ac, remove check signal.h http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/2175cec 2010-04-28 06:23 Xiangfu Liu: add more error check. remove the signal handler http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/07bfc33 2010-04-28 06:30 Xiangfu Liu: update the email address http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/2aa4472 2010-04-28 06:59 vegyraupe, yes 2010-04-28 07:00 vegyraupe, please talk about the GSoC (http://lists.milkymist.org/pipermail/devel-milkymist.org/2010-April/000552.html) 2010-04-28 07:03 lekernel: thx, added :) 2010-04-28 07:04 lekernel: I will try to do these every other week, so whenever you have something, just go ahead and add it :) 2010-04-28 07:04 esp if it is not on one of the Qi lists 2010-04-28 07:22 hello all! 2010-04-28 07:22 ordered my my nanonote last night and excitedly waiting for it to arrive :) 2010-04-28 07:22 a quick question 2010-04-28 07:22 is the xburst processor 32bit MIPS? 2010-04-28 07:23 gnufs, yes. 32bit MIPS 2010-04-28 07:23 thanks 2010-04-28 07:24 gnufs, you are welcome :-) 2010-04-28 07:24 :) welcome gnufs 2010-04-28 07:24 tuxbrain: congratulations for your video! 2010-04-28 07:24 you believe in this for months, and in the end you did it! 2010-04-28 07:24 tuxbrain: yeah, i was also about to congratulate you :) 2010-04-28 07:25 wow 2010-04-28 07:25 also I am very happy that you are promoting the tuxbrain brand! 2010-04-28 07:25 it's a good brand, you should be proud of it and continue to move forward with your values. You have a very unique business! 2010-04-28 07:25 don't be too shy! more people should know about tuxbrain and order stuff from you! 2010-04-28 07:25 tuxbrain: hmm, are you also running the tuxbrain store? 2010-04-28 07:25 gnufs: yes, sure :-) 2010-04-28 07:26 wolfspraul: this is the empiric demostrantion that I listen you in spite of my rantings :P 2010-04-28 07:26 and he is one of the rare guys who will really not carry a product he doesn't personally believe in 2010-04-28 07:26 yes gnufs 2010-04-28 07:26 well, in that case i have a conditional question 2010-04-28 07:26 I mean how rare is that? if there is a product David knows he could sell, but he thinks it's crap, he won't carry it! 2010-04-28 07:26 tellme gnufs 2010-04-28 07:26 does using the serial console (a la http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Serial_console ) mean disabling the USB? 2010-04-28 07:26 nop 2010-04-28 07:27 but remember you only have usb device not host 2010-04-28 07:27 right 2010-04-28 07:27 you can operate with serial manwhile ussing ssh 2010-04-28 07:27 :) 2010-04-28 07:27 oh 2010-04-28 07:27 you read my mind, sir! 2010-04-28 07:28 In fact I do all test before the video this way :) 2010-04-28 07:31 tuxbrain: do you by any chance sell this usb-to-serial cable by any chance? (and if you do, would it be possible to add it to an order i placed last night? :D) 2010-04-28 07:33 tuxbrain: some video feedback: first a stand, maybe a stand would make a big difference 2010-04-28 07:33 sorry I don't have this product in catalog, 2010-04-28 07:33 if you are doing more promotional videos in the future :-) 2010-04-28 07:33 wolfspraul: you mean a tripod? 2010-04-28 07:34 yes, sorry 2010-04-28 07:34 tripod 2010-04-28 07:34 then for some reason the screen contents seem not in focus, strange 2010-04-28 07:34 does your camera support focus change while shooting? 2010-04-28 07:34 I had one but broke last week 2010-04-28 07:34 unfortunately that's the one important thing my little Canon is missing. once I start shooting a video the focus is fixed. 2010-04-28 07:35 also, I notice that the screen is too bright. do we support brightness change in software on the Ben NanoNote? I don't even know... 2010-04-28 07:35 if we do, would be cool if we had a way to increase/decrease brightness 2010-04-28 07:35 we could, but we don't do 2010-04-28 07:36 he OK. I will write it up as an issue, at least we remember it's theoretically possible... thanks! 2010-04-28 07:36 the one I used not, just automatic focus but next one I will try with the one I bring to events, is bigger and to usit with one hand is very unconfortable 2010-04-28 07:36 wolfspraul: we could change the lcd color brightness. but not the backlight brightness 2010-04-28 07:36 I will try to find a tripod nest time 2010-04-28 07:37 next time sorry 2010-04-28 07:38 wolfspraul: also I will arrange little bit the ambient light so the contrast is not so high on  screen 2010-04-28 07:38 has anyone figured out a way to use an external usb or ps/2 keyboard with nanonote yet? 2010-04-28 07:38 not possible 2010-04-28 07:38 tuxbrain: I wrote up the screen brightness issue http://projects.qi-hardware.com/p/ben-nanonote/issues/73/ 2010-04-28 07:39 i can imagine a few attack vectors but wouldn't wanna repeat what anybody else has done 2010-04-28 07:39 if lars says it should work that's encourating, I understand we have tons of details everywhere but at least it's written up so we won't forget and can track it... 2010-04-28 07:39 maybe a serial keyboard, they exist once upon a time .... 2010-04-28 07:39 s/encourating/encouraging/ 2010-04-28 07:42 tuxbrain: which software do you use for video post-processing? 2010-04-28 07:42 like for example to format the text into it? 2010-04-28 07:43 wolfspraul: kino 2010-04-28 07:45 to render the text I use the titler plugin 2010-04-28 07:46 to embed images superimpose plugin 2010-04-28 07:47 interesting 2010-04-28 07:47 never done that 2010-04-28 07:47 the only thing you must be carefull is that one rederend there in no undo option, so better check on the preview you achive the right effect 2010-04-28 07:47 I am planning to buy an Elphel camera soon 2010-04-28 07:47 wow 2010-04-28 07:47 I am sure in terms of productivity that will throw me way back, but in terms of fun it should be nice! :-) 2010-04-28 07:48 feels the envy rolling in my veins 2010-04-28 07:48 once I have that little thing I will spend some more time to learn about effective post-processing 2010-04-28 07:48 tuxbrain: where is the video 2010-04-28 07:48 tuxbrain: I plan to visit them soon. Many things to learn... 2010-04-28 07:49 jluis: it's on youtube and here http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Community_News_2010-04-28 2010-04-28 07:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F5g559TMrE 2010-04-28 07:50 thaks 2010-04-28 07:50 jluis already subtitled to spanish on youtube and daily motion :) 2010-04-28 07:52 oooh, found the TTL-232R-3V3 in a store (segor.de) just a few bus stops away from my home \o/ 2010-04-28 07:52 this is certainly my lucky day 2010-04-28 07:53 gnufs: sendme a mail with how much it cost you david@tuxbrain.com 2010-04-28 07:54 but it wasn't on your buzz feed 2010-04-28 07:58 tuxbrain: "you've got mail!" 2010-04-28 08:10 ooh, my freerunner battery is compatible with nano? kewl. 2010-04-28 08:10 "Can close the lid: No" 2010-04-28 08:10 does it at least fit into the enclosure? 2010-04-28 08:11 close the lid? I'm pretty sure you can close the lid. I think that means the battery cover. 2010-04-28 08:11 aand, my nokia phone has BL-5C battery! 2010-04-28 08:12 the issue is thickness 2010-04-28 08:12 wolfspraul: nice 2010-04-28 08:12 bl-5c, freerunner etc. might fit into NanoNote, but not quite right 2010-04-28 08:12 it's hard to push the battery cover onto it, the battery is just a tad too thick 2010-04-28 08:13 the connectors fit though. It also depends on the individual batteries. 2010-04-28 08:13 batteries swell over time 2010-04-28 08:13 that's what the duct tape is for 2010-04-28 08:13 swell? 2010-04-28 08:13 yes sure 2010-04-28 08:13 they get thicker 2010-04-28 08:13 oh mkay 2010-04-28 08:13 if you ever run across a battery recycling place they can show you some of their impressive models 2010-04-28 08:13 it can get round almost like a pear! 2010-04-28 08:14 :-) 2010-04-28 08:14 :o 2010-04-28 08:14 amazing chemistry inside, don't forget that 2010-04-28 08:14 wonders if his BL-4C would also fit the nano 2010-04-28 08:14 so but anyway, 'normally' they swell over time, and device vendors will leave tolerances in the mechanical design 2010-04-28 08:14 say for a 10-15% swelling 2010-04-28 08:15 the swelling may be more or less pronounced depending on how the battery is used 2010-04-28 08:15 so your freerunner battery may fit well, or not so well, or not at all 2010-04-28 08:15 it starts off a little too thick, even if it's brand new 2010-04-28 08:16 gnufs: just go to images.google.com search for 'swollen battery' 2010-04-28 08:17 it's normal and affects every battery, although usually it's just 5% or so and you shouldn't notice 2010-04-28 08:20 in that case 2010-04-28 08:20 Nokia BL-4C may fit the nanonote quite well ===> http://omploader.org/vNGF5Mg/Nokia-BL-batteries.JPG 2010-04-28 08:25 tries to register an account on the qi-hardware wiki, but can not pass the captcha for the 3rd time 2010-04-28 08:26 oh 2010-04-28 08:26 gnufs: tell me about it, whenever my login is forgotten I spend at least 5 minutes trying to get the captcha right ;) 2010-04-28 08:26 vegyraupe: also the qi wiki captcha? 2010-04-28 08:26 it's too hard? 2010-04-28 08:26 gnufs: I think the string is always a concatenation of 2 english words 2010-04-28 08:26 maybe that helps 2010-04-28 08:26 wolfspraul: heh, not sure if I'd say "too" hard 2010-04-28 08:26 wolfspraul: there is always a typo as well 2010-04-28 08:26 ;) 2010-04-28 08:27 we could change it 2010-04-28 08:27 or at least it looks like it :) 2010-04-28 08:27 there is also visual math captcha and what not 2010-04-28 08:27 if you guys feel the one we have right now is too hard we should change it 2010-04-28 08:27 also I think we can make the font size bigger which will make it easier to read 2010-04-28 08:27 gnufs: can you try again and let me know? 2010-04-28 08:27 so far I was always able to guess it right, but I also wondered whether/why I got it right :-) 2010-04-28 08:28 at least we have no spam since I re-enabled anonymous edits 2010-04-28 08:28 and there are nasty bots out there, unfortunately 2010-04-28 08:28 got it right the fourth time :) 2010-04-28 08:28 hmm 2010-04-28 08:29 maybe visual math captcha instead? :-) 2010-04-28 08:29 it's a race with the bots anyway 2010-04-28 08:40 updates http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Compatible_batteries with nokia infos and pics 2010-04-28 08:58 gnufs, can you close the lid when you put that batteries in? 2010-04-28 09:24 vegyraupe, you may also want to say that Adam has finished the first pass of routing for the M1 board 2010-04-28 09:24 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/SCHEDULES 2010-04-28 09:26 added it on the wiki 2010-04-28 09:26 lekernel: superbb, thx 2010-04-28 09:32 zear: haven't received my nanonote yet, so i just added the pictures and some info 2010-04-28 09:35 ah, ok 2010-04-28 09:42 Hi$ 2010-04-28 09:43 Hi 2010-04-28 09:45 gnufs:tomorrow you will have no excuse, courier has just pick up your order, tomorow will be there. :) 2010-04-28 10:32 Carlos Camargo: Fixing some errors on Makefiles http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/b12a749 2010-04-28 10:34 gnufs: ali? 2010-04-28 10:35 gnufs: hey good see you here, and more people supporting copyleft hardware with nanonote :) 2010-04-28 10:58 I need an advice. Want to connect a led to BNN and then drive it on Linux. I see that U11 (SCIC) chip wasn't included in the board so I was wondering if I can connect a LED between GND and SCL or SDA. Will that configuration work? 2010-04-28 10:59 should work, i guess 2010-04-28 11:00 Next question is about the .ko (driver). Any ideas to start making this? 2010-04-28 11:02 a driver to controll the leds? 2010-04-28 11:02 mmm... Yeah, that LED between GND and SCL. 2010-04-28 11:03 SCL=GPC8 2010-04-28 11:04 to test whether it is working you can simply do (cd /sys/class/gpio; echo 72 > export; echo out > gpio72/direction; echo 1 > gpio72/value) 2010-04-28 11:05 if you want to register the leds as a led device you should use the leds_gpio platform driver 2010-04-28 11:05 as an example how to use it you can take a look at arch/mips/jz4740/board-n516.c 2010-04-28 11:12 Great. I'll give it a try. Thanks for your help. 2010-04-28 11:59 Using GND and SCL the LED=1 is on boot. I typed -> cd /sys/class/gpio; echo 72 and the result was: there's no gpio on /sys/class/ 2010-04-28 11:59 *I mean the LED is on when booting. 2010-04-28 12:00 And after boot too. Always on. 2010-04-28 12:13 NaotoHanato: the "GPIO_SYSFS" option must be on in the kernel config to enable the gpio directory in /sys 2010-04-28 12:18 Can be done using make menuconfig? 2010-04-28 12:19 make kernel_menuconfig 2010-04-28 12:23 hi 2010-04-28 12:23 hello qwebirc21264 2010-04-28 12:24 i want some help please 2010-04-28 12:24 any one can help me 2010-04-28 12:24 can i update an already clonned git directory? 2010-04-28 12:24 qwebirc21264: go ahead, what is your problemn? 2010-04-28 12:24 kristianpaul: yes `git pull` 2010-04-28 12:25 ok thanks 2010-04-28 12:26 ok i want to design my own image for iq and i dont know anything about how to do so ,where should i start 2010-04-28 12:27 qwebirc21264: read this http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image 2010-04-28 12:27 and hack :) 2010-04-28 12:27 qwebirc21264: are you related to openwrt? 2010-04-28 12:41 NaotoHanato: interesting... 2010-04-28 12:42 wondering if there is also another free accecible gpio to enable reception and mount an ir port with ir led emiter/ir receiver..... 2010-04-28 12:43 I have two free pins free to solder in the custom plug yet.... 2010-04-28 12:54 Isn't David-san? ^_^ 2010-04-28 13:16 tuxbrain: sdio? 2010-04-28 13:17 btw i'll try reply your work with serial  using a pinguino board (i dont have arduino or atmel) 2010-04-28 13:33 NaotoHanato: Arigato yes I'm David :) 2010-04-28 14:02 vegyraupe: do you think that it is a good idea that gmenu2x is messing with the cores pll registers? 2010-04-28 14:02 larsc: come again? 2010-04-28 14:04 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/gmenu2x/source/tree/master/src/cpu.cpp 2010-04-28 14:08 mmc rates are down to 1.5MB/s instead of 4.0MB/s 2010-04-28 14:09 and the display clock is running why to slow 2010-04-28 14:09 s/why/way/ 2010-04-28 14:38 mmm... No positive result. I wonder now what is wrong. Seems extrange that when I power on the BNN the LED remain a little on, then if you type "clear" on screen the LED turn off completely. 2010-04-28 14:39 Using GND and SCL (GPC8) 2010-04-28 14:40 *I mean strange. 2010-04-28 14:40 hum 2010-04-28 14:40 could it be that the output is configured as lcd pin? 2010-04-28 14:42 mmm... What should I try next... 2010-04-28 14:46 hm... uboot configures it as a lcd pin 2010-04-28 14:48 SDA (GPC9) too? 2010-04-28 14:49 yes 2010-04-28 14:49 :( 2010-04-28 14:50 give me a moment. i'm writing a patch 2010-04-28 14:54 hi there 2010-04-28 14:54 hi fx 2010-04-28 14:54 hi tuxbrain 2010-04-28 14:54 just receive my nano today 2010-04-28 14:54 :) 2010-04-28 14:55 yep looks great 2010-04-28 14:55 reflash it with last image and will be even better :) 2010-04-28 14:56 Thanks, larsc. 2010-04-28 14:56 yes , i will try tonight 2010-04-28 14:57 this ones : http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/latest/ 2010-04-28 15:13 NaotoHanato: I'm interested in your evolution in led if I'm not arround here please send me a mail with your success, some howto will be awesome to have too :) 2010-04-28 15:14 the_fixou: yes , but http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/reflash_ben.sh will make your live a lot easier 2010-04-28 15:15 just execute it as root in the host computer while nano is on usbboot mode 2010-04-28 15:15 thanks , how many time does "flashing rootfs..." my during ? 2010-04-28 15:16 acouple of minutes, sorry I had never measured it 2010-04-28 15:16 ok ay perfaect ! 2010-04-28 15:30 larsc: I didn't write gmenu2x so I am sure I have never looked at the piece of code that you mentioned 2010-04-28 15:49 vegyraupe: ok 2010-04-28 15:49 larsc, what's the problem with gmenu2x? 2010-04-28 15:49 it reclocks the pll 2010-04-28 15:50 thus mmc and display are clocked to slow 2010-04-28 15:50 mmc speed for example is down to 1.4 MB/s 2010-04-28 15:50 it must be still set to gp2x values 2010-04-28 15:51 hm? 2010-04-28 15:51 gmenu2x is a menu for gp2x 2010-04-28 15:51 we just adopted for dingoo and nanonote 2010-04-28 15:51 so if something is reclocked, it most likely means it is set for gp2x values 2010-04-28 15:53 well it has code for the jz4740 2010-04-28 15:54 oh, so you reffer to the cpu clocking code? 2010-04-28 15:54 then yes, i left the one from the dingoo port 2010-04-28 15:54 because it seemed to be working on ben 2010-04-28 15:54 well. imo it should change the raw cpu registers 2010-04-28 15:55 probably, i know nothing about that stuff 2010-04-28 15:55 ok 2010-04-28 16:01 NaotoHanato: if you use http://metafoo.de/openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-u-boot.bin it should work 2010-04-28 16:03 larsc, is you decide to look at it, there are also some other easily fixable things that need to be done 2010-04-28 16:03 change the root path from /card to / and path length value, so you can go up a dir without a crash 2010-04-28 17:04 Great larsc, I'll try. 2010-04-28 17:05 Of course tuxbrain ^_^ 2010-04-28 17:49 larsc, works perfectly...  (echo 1 > gpio72/value) -> Turn on ; (echo 0 > gpio72/value) -> Turn off ^_^ 2010-04-28 18:01 larsc, can you tell me more about the U-Boot fix? 2010-04-28 18:06 NaotoHanato: yes 2010-04-28 18:07 NaotoHanato: https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/21241 2010-04-28 18:12 Really thanks for your help. 2010-04-28 19:40 Carlos Camargo: Adding RXDF TXDF connect them to MAX232, allowing communication between CPU and FPGA via serial port http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/1c0db18 2010-04-28 19:47 Carlos Camargo: Updating schematic PDF file http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/36d217d 2010-04-28 22:30 nite all 2010-04-28 22:31 'night 2010-04-28 22:32 night 2010-04-28 22:32 kristianpaul: are you from America? :) 2010-04-28 22:34 from Colombia, the second home of Qi Hardware! :-) 2010-04-28 22:34 yes 2010-04-28 22:41 ah.. entonces podemos hablar en espaniol :D 2010-04-28 22:41 kristianpaul: I am from Argentina 2010-04-28 22:42 wolfspraul: if Colombia is the second home then I am happy to live close jeje 2010-04-28 22:42 rafa: claro que si ! 2010-04-28 22:42 rafa: ya tienes el nano? 2010-04-28 22:42 kristianpaul: no yet.. It is in its way ;) 2010-04-28 22:42 cool 2010-04-28 22:43 yeah, I am so excited to get one 2010-04-28 22:43 rafa: ahora si me voy a dormir, mañana madrugo a trabajar :) 2010-04-28 22:43 nos leemos ! 2010-04-28 22:43 kristianpaul: saludos!