2010-04-27 00:27 <DingooDigitalUSA> Ok they are posted taking pre-orders for the Dingoo Technology A330 please vist HTTP://WWW.Dingoo-Digital-USA.com to make your pre-order...
2010-04-27 01:16 <gitlog> nico: target/toolchain: match toolchain directory name changes in r19885 & r20215 (closes: #7148 & #7162) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/8848c0b
2010-04-27 01:41 <wolfspraul> he :-)
2010-04-27 01:41 <wolfspraul> that didn't work as expected. need to improve the gitlog script...
2010-04-27 02:39 <larsc> mth: I got something in mind.
2010-04-27 04:55 <gitlog> xiangfu: add .config file http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/9f1bb3b
2010-04-27 05:09 <larsc> xiangfu: .config should not be in git
2010-04-27 05:10 <larsc> hu? and why is that commit from 1 month ago?
2010-04-27 05:57 <xiangfu> larsc, I think wolfgang is test the gitlog .
2010-04-27 11:25 <gitlog> Mirko Vogt: sparsehash is needed as dependency, however just while compiling, not for runtime... http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/3b95c48
2010-04-27 11:38 <mstevens> Wha would explain gitlog there announcing a change, but git pull not picking it up?
2010-04-27 11:43 <mth> different branch?
2010-04-27 11:45 <mstevens> hmm, yeah, mirko's change is on master, but I, as recommended in the docs, am on the xburst branch
2010-04-27 11:46 <mstevens> hold on, no, I'm being thick.l
2010-04-27 11:48 <mstevens> the openwrt build doesn't pull in package updates unless you tell it to
2010-04-27 11:54 <mirko> urgs
2010-04-27 11:54 <mirko> my fault i guess
2010-04-27 11:54 <mirko> no, wait
2010-04-27 11:54 <mirko> there's just one branch in openwrt-packages
2010-04-27 11:54 <mstevens> mirko: Yeah I was being daft and updating openwrt-xburst, and then going "wah, why mirko's change not there?"
2010-04-27 11:55 <mirko> openwrt-xburst contains 2 branches (where the xburst one is we're currently developing in)
2010-04-27 11:55 <mstevens> mirko: Then I realised, update feeds, pulls in newer packages, everything's a happy thing.
2010-04-27 11:56 <mstevens> mirko: There's a missing perl dependency somewhere, I'll try to point y
2010-04-27 11:56 <mstevens> ou at where once I get a bit further
2010-04-27 12:01 <mirko> okay, thanks
2010-04-27 12:01 <mirko> ah, i know what you mean
2010-04-27 12:01 <mirko> it's a dependency needed on the host system
2010-04-27 12:02 <mstevens> yes, something wants perl's XML::Simple on the host to build
2010-04-27 12:02 <mstevens> I noted down the problem but foolishly not which package
2010-04-27 12:02 <mstevens> so I'll need to take it out again and see what doesn't build
2010-04-27 12:09 <mirko> okay, thank you
2010-04-27 12:09 <mirko> didn't remember the related package as well
2010-04-27 12:09 <mirko> think it was gnome-icon-theme or sth. like that
2010-04-27 12:10 <mstevens> yeah, vaguely gnome related sounds right
2010-04-27 12:23 <mstevens> rar, built an image, now to break it
2010-04-27 12:26 <gitlog> Lars-Peter Clausen: jz4740_fb: Free colormap http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/d7d83a2
2010-04-27 13:18 <zear> is playing civilization 1 on his nanonote
2010-04-27 13:18 <vegyraupe> :D
2010-04-27 13:18 <vegyraupe> zear: good choice ;)
2010-04-27 13:18 <zear> it's slow in some places
2010-04-27 13:19 <zear> like when it has to render the city view
2010-04-27 13:19 <zear> but the map is really fast
2010-04-27 13:32 <mstevens> is still trying to track down the missing dependency
2010-04-27 16:55 <mstevens> traces the missing dependency to a dodgy feed being picked up from openwrt
2010-04-27 16:55 <mstevens> now trying to work out the openwrt side of things
2010-04-27 17:23 <mstevens> hello
2010-04-27 17:39 <guylhem> hello
2010-04-27 17:39 <mstevens> hi
2010-04-27 17:40 <max_posedon> hi! I'll receive my ben-nanonote soon, and want ask some questions. My main goal, is try do some fixes for Gentoo to support BenNN.
2010-04-27 17:40 <max_posedon> Right now, I just want to know, which gcc -march should I use? (and which toolchain)
2010-04-27 17:42 <max_posedon> e.g. like for arm, I require armv4tl-softfloat-linux-gnueabi and cflags -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t
2010-04-27 17:42 <max_posedon> so, what should be used for Ben NN?
2010-04-27 17:43 <guylhem> how do you leave gmenu2x to get a normal tty?
2010-04-27 17:43 <guylhem> (did that with ctrl alt can't remember how)
2010-04-27 17:44 <guylhem> ctrl-alt-fx don;'t work
2010-04-27 17:46 <mstevens> guylhem: I thought ctrl-alt-thingy worked for me
2010-04-27 17:47 <guylhem> could you confirm it? I'm soldring stuff on the mobo, need to know if something is fried
2010-04-27 17:48 <mstevens> Okay, ctrl-alt-f1 should take you to a screen that says "Please wait while graphic bla blah"
2010-04-27 17:48 <mstevens> and enter should bring up a show
2010-04-27 17:48 <mstevens> shell
2010-04-27 17:49 <mstevens> that's with whatever the most recently announced image was
2010-04-27 17:49 <guylhem> it doesnt
2010-04-27 17:51 <guylhem> when I boot with f, the number key dont work either
2010-04-27 17:51 <Skuerzo> max_posedon: you can get the toolchain as shown in http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image
2010-04-27 17:51 <guylhem> could you please try this too ? (reboot, pres f+enter)
2010-04-27 17:51 <mstevens> guylhem: don't know what you mean "boot with f"?
2010-04-27 17:52 <guylhem> reboot, you get prompter for a failsafe mode
2010-04-27 17:52 <max_posedon> Skuerzo, its just uses openwrt generic mipsel, and following cflags: -Os -pipe -mips32 -mtune=mips32 -funit-at-a-time
2010-04-27 17:52 <max_posedon> I think its still too generic.
2010-04-27 17:52 <max_posedon> e.g. if you remember, arm/x86 have more specific options
2010-04-27 17:52 <mstevens> guylhem: I don't see anything about a failsafe mode
2010-04-27 17:53 <guylhem> in the text msg before the gui is loading
2010-04-27 17:53 <Skuerzo> i know, I'm a gentoo freak too, but I wasn't sure what were you asking. Sorry I don't know this one
2010-04-27 17:53 <guylhem> approx 10s after reboot
2010-04-27 17:53 <max_posedon> Skuerzo, look at my arm example. I want smth similar.
2010-04-27 17:54 <mstevens> guylhem: I get some boot loader stuff scroll past extremely fast, OpenWRT logo screen, "please wait while graphical env loading..." then I'm into gmenu
2010-04-27 17:54 <max_posedon> gcc -march have long list of options for mips
2010-04-27 17:55 <guylhem> mstevens if you can do ctrl alt f1, could you please do : find /|grep \,map
2010-04-27 17:55 <guylhem> (dot map, .map)
2010-04-27 17:56 <guylhem> shift key aint working. Can't do a pipe
2010-04-27 17:57 <Skuerzo> guylhem: maybe this can help? http://pastebin.com/mzGgG3LW
2010-04-27 17:57 <mstevens> guylhem: I er have a bunch of files
2010-04-27 17:58 <guylhem> anything looking like keyboard.map or loadkeys.map ?
2010-04-27 17:59 <mstevens> too many results to check the grep output
2010-04-27 17:59 <mstevens> looking for those names specifically
2010-04-27 18:00 <mstevens> nothing called keyboard.map or loadkeys.map
2010-04-27 18:01 <guylhem> I;ll try thw wrapping stuff in gmenu
2010-04-27 18:01 <guylhem> hopefully it's a glitch not an hw problem
2010-04-27 18:11 <guylhem> can you get digits in tty mode?
2010-04-27 18:37 <guylhem> anyone know how to diagnose a keyboard problem?
2010-04-27 18:46 <nebajoth> the problem is semen.
2010-04-27 18:46 <nebajoth> oh, YOUR keyboard.
2010-04-27 18:48 <nebajoth> no?
2010-04-27 18:48 <nebajoth> nobody'
2010-04-27 18:48 <nebajoth> :(
2010-04-27 18:48 <nebajoth> I know you're out there
2010-04-27 18:48 <nebajoth> lurking
2010-04-27 18:48 <nebajoth> and laughing at my awesome impropriety
2010-04-27 18:52 <guylhem> not laughing - I'm more concerned about possible damage to the mobo and figuring out what has happened
2010-04-27 18:59 <nebajoth> what did you spill?
2010-04-27 19:02 <guylhem> I'm soldering stuff on the serial ports. There is no spill
2010-04-27 19:07 <nebajoth> oh dear
2010-04-27 19:08 <nebajoth> may I ask what you were soldering?
2010-04-27 19:08 <guylhem> bluetooth
2010-04-27 19:08 <nebajoth> oh sweet
2010-04-27 19:09 <nebajoth> what is the unit you were soldering to it?
2010-04-27 19:09 <nebajoth> and did you notice anything awry, or was booting up and discovering no keyboard the first sign?
2010-04-27 19:09 <guylhem> wml-ahr-c09
2010-04-27 19:09 <guylhem> I had the nanonote waiting for ~1 week
2010-04-27 19:10 <guylhem> last time it worked. now it doesnt
2010-04-27 19:10 <nebajoth> it stopped working while sitting on a shelf?
2010-04-27 19:10 <guylhem> maybe. or maybe the serial port has a role.
2010-04-27 19:10 <guylhem> both are plausible at the moment.
2010-04-27 19:10 <nebajoth> but it worked last week?
2010-04-27 19:10 <guylhem> it did IIRC
2010-04-27 19:11 <nebajoth> could it be a simple configuration issue in a version of the firmware flashed on the unit?
2010-04-27 19:11 <nebajoth> that didn't take effect until you rebooted the unit?
2010-04-27 19:11 <nebajoth> I'm just trying to think of things that would cause a difference between reboots
2010-04-27 19:11 <nebajoth> short of your actual solder connections breaking
2010-04-27 19:11 <nebajoth> I don't see why it would work one day
2010-04-27 19:11 <nebajoth> and not the next
2010-04-27 19:12 <guylhem> I don't see either.
2010-04-27 19:13 <guylhem> I hope there is a test image to rule out an hardware problem.
2010-04-27 19:14 <nebajoth> have you tried reflashing at all yet?
2010-04-27 19:14 <guylhem> not yet
2010-04-27 19:14 <nebajoth> toss the latest firmware on
2010-04-27 19:14 <guylhem> I want to understand what is happening
2010-04-27 19:14 <nebajoth> right
2010-04-27 19:14 <nebajoth> problem solver
2010-04-27 19:14 <nebajoth> ok
2010-04-27 19:14 <nebajoth> it boots?
2010-04-27 19:14 <guylhem> boots fine and works fine - but the blue, alt and shift key
2010-04-27 19:15 <nebajoth> oh
2010-04-27 19:15 <nebajoth> yes I see
2010-04-27 19:16 <nebajoth> it COULD be the serial ports
2010-04-27 19:16 <nebajoth> but you recall those keys working ok last time
2010-04-27 19:16 <nebajoth> was the serial port stuff working last time?
2010-04-27 19:20 <guylhem> wow.
2010-04-27 19:20 <guylhem> cutting the connections to the serial port revive these 3 keys
2010-04-27 19:23 <guylhem> weirdest electrical symptom I've ever met
2010-04-27 19:34 <nebajoth> guylhem: can you give us the result of "cat /proc/interrupts" with the serial ports connected and disconnected?
2010-04-27 19:34 <guylhem> I have to resolder it
2010-04-27 19:34 <nebajoth> I'm inclined to think its a gpio pin issue
2010-04-27 19:35 <nebajoth> but perhaps that's naive
2010-04-27 19:35 <guylhem> I would think the same - if I could check how the keyboard is wired
2010-04-27 19:37 <nebajoth> well
2010-04-27 19:37 <nebajoth> there's a gpio pinout on the wiki
2010-04-27 19:37 <nebajoth> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Hardware-Ben
2010-04-27 19:37 <nebajoth> and there's the data sheet for the jz4740 itself
2010-04-27 19:37 <nebajoth> there was a thread in the mailing list a bit ago about serial ports
2010-04-27 19:37 <nebajoth> but I thought you were a participant in that
2010-04-27 19:37 <nebajoth> so that's probably not news to you
2010-04-27 19:39 <guylhem> I'm having only problems with both serial ports
2010-04-27 19:39 <guylhem> checked the wiki
2010-04-27 19:40 <guylhem> can't find the matrix for the keyboard wiki
2010-04-27 19:40 <guylhem> s/wiki/gpio
2010-04-27 19:40 <guylhem> if the 3 keys are on the same gpio then I will have a good suspicion
2010-04-27 19:42 <nebajoth> yes
2010-04-27 19:49 <nebajoth> guylhem
2010-04-27 19:50 <nebajoth> do you have the code?
2010-04-27 19:50 <nebajoth> openwrt-xburst/ ?
2010-04-27 19:50 <guylhem> which code
2010-04-27 19:50 <guylhem> no I dont
2010-04-27 19:50 <nebajoth> there is a file in the patches directory
2010-04-27 19:50 <nebajoth> 500-modifier-keys.patch
2010-04-27 19:50 <guylhem> I'm still working around hardware problems
2010-04-27 19:50 <nebajoth> it outlines keycodes
2010-04-27 19:54 <nebajoth> oh hey
2010-04-27 19:54 <nebajoth> those three keys
2010-04-27 19:54 <nebajoth> are all modifiers
2010-04-27 19:54 <nebajoth> the only ones, I think
2010-04-27 19:54 <nebajoth> was that obvious?
2010-04-27 19:54 <nebajoth> just hit me now.
2010-04-27 19:55 <guylhem> interesting
2010-04-27 19:55 <nebajoth> and
2010-04-27 19:55 <nebajoth> have keycode 12
2010-04-27 19:55 <nebajoth> I don't understand how that works
2010-04-27 19:55 <nebajoth> but ok
2010-04-27 19:55 <guylhem> must go to the same gpio
2010-04-27 19:55 <nebajoth> yes
2010-04-27 19:55 <nebajoth> ok
2010-04-27 19:55 <nebajoth> I'm fuzzy here
2010-04-27 19:55 <nebajoth> but that makes a kind of sense to me
2010-04-27 19:55 <nebajoth> and those serial pads
2010-04-27 19:56 <nebajoth> same gpio?
2010-04-27 19:57 <guylhem> dont know about the serial gpio
2010-04-27 19:57 <guylhem> would make sense however
2010-04-27 19:57 <nebajoth> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Talk:Serial_console#Nevermind
2010-04-27 19:58 <guylhem> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 19:28, David Reyes Samblas Martinez <david@tuxbrain.com> wrote:
2010-04-27 19:58 <guylhem> > I suggest to do some kind of switch or easy unplugable wire in the RX(Nanonote),
2010-04-27 19:58 <guylhem> > and yes it is a known issue due gpio sharing of RX and Keyboard.
2010-04-27 19:58 <nebajoth> "Apparently there is an issue where the same GPIO pin is used for serial and part of the keyboard, so none of these ideas are really useful. "
2010-04-27 19:58 <nebajoth> haha
2010-04-27 19:58 <nebajoth> yes
2010-04-27 19:58 <nebajoth> well at least we were smart enough to re-figure it out
2010-04-27 19:59 <guylhem> well that's good
2010-04-27 19:59 <guylhem> I prefer to understand :-)
2010-04-27 19:59 <guylhem> than to copy
2010-04-27 19:59 <nebajoth> :-)
2010-04-27 20:50 <chenfengyuan> when the new image will release?
2010-04-27 20:50 <chenfengyuan> released?
2010-04-27 20:52 <chenfengyuan> anyone knows?
2010-04-27 20:55 <wolfspraul> not really, we don't have fixed release schedules right now
2010-04-27 20:57 <chenfengyuan> Can hwclock work in the new image?
2010-04-27 20:59 <wolfspraul> can you write it up in the issue tracker? http://projects.qi-hardware.com/p/ben-nanonote/issues
2010-04-27 20:59 <wolfspraul> that's the best way I know right now how to keep track of it and eventually get it in
2010-04-27 20:59 <wolfspraul> there is also a wishlist in the wiki
2010-04-27 21:00 <chenfengyuan> Well,i see,i will do it:)
2010-04-27 21:05 <wolfspraul> chenfengyuan: thanks, that's great
2010-04-27 21:07 <chenfengyuan> I should say thanks for replyimg:)
2010-04-27 21:07 <chenfengyuan> replying
2010-04-27 21:08 <kristianpaul> hello
2010-04-27 21:10 <chenfengyuan> hi
2010-04-27 21:15 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: hey :-)
2010-04-27 22:30 <NaotoHanato> Hi everyone! I'm trying to boot my BNN from SD card, but seems like isn't reading rootfs
2010-04-27 22:51 <xiangfu_> NaotoHanato, what is your SD card partitions and size?
2010-04-27 23:05 <NaotoHanato> FAT (1.5 GB) and EXT2 (0.5 GB)
2010-04-27 23:22 <xiangfu> NaotoHanato, is the splash screen show up (the openwrt logo)?
2010-04-27 23:29 <NaotoHanato> Ok, I had the SD with one partition (FAT16). I copied uImage.bin and yes, show the splash screen. Now I made the other partition EXT2 keeping FAT16 and I see the following error: "can't get kernel image".
2010-04-27 23:38 <xiangfu> NaotoHanato, when boot from sd card. the first partition must FAT16, the second partitions must EXT2. the kernel name must "uImage" and put it in the first partitions