16:30 <whitequark> wpwrak: I looked at dxf

16:30 <whitequark> holy fuck

16:30 <whitequark> it is an abomination

17:16 <whitequark> http://www.equipnet.com/auctions/auction_catalog.aspx?auctionid=656

17:28 <wpwrak> (dxf) glad we're of the same opinion ;-)

17:29 <wpwrak> aha, the spoils of nokia are making the rounds :)

22:27 <DocScrutinizer05> hey, news spead fast :-)

22:27 <DocScrutinizer05> alas bidding is a PITA

22:28 <DocScrutinizer05> and even more so is shipping/pick-up

22:29 <DocScrutinizer05> you're maybe lucky to get some nice gadget, then it sits in Oulu and you have to pick it up until 04-17 the latest. And you have no idea what the guys offering to do that for you will ask for that

22:30 <DocScrutinizer05> they could ask basically any amount they like, since you don't have much alternatives

22:31 <DocScrutinizer05> travel to Oulu and pick it up personally

22:33 <DocScrutinizer05> also the product descriptions are pathetic. Generally you're prolly lucky when you get *anything* with the bare bones unit you bid for. No probes with scopes, no manuals, no sw licenses. when you're lucky the device looks moderately OK and even works

22:38 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: for that price for some of the tech I would not hesitate to get a ticket and fly there tomorrow

22:39 <DocScrutinizer05> indeed

22:39 <DocScrutinizer05> but I guess some big guys will rush in and buy en gros

22:39 <whitequark> eh, if you never try, you never get

22:40 <whitequark> I would think not; the big guys have grants/funding

22:40 <whitequark> which makes them care less about breadcrumbs like this and also more constrained in choice

22:50 <DocScrutinizer05> this "breadcrumbs" is an auction of ~1200 mostly high class electronic lab items that can go for magnitudes higher price at eBay

22:51 <DocScrutinizer05> so the big guys I'm talking of are those who professionally sell "refurbished" electronics for ~50% of original sales price

23:17 <whitequark> oh, so liquidators

23:17 <whitequark> yes, good point

23:18 <whitequark> well... assuming they want a nonzero profit, you can still outbid them, no?