DocScrutinizer05 changed the topic of #qi-hardware to: Copyleft hardware - http://qi-hardware.com | hardware hackers join here to discuss Ben NanoNote, atben / atusb 802.15.4 wireless, and other community driven hw projects | public logging at http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs and http://irclog.whitequark.org/qi-hardware
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<nicksydney_> this is awesome http://andybrown.me.uk/wk/2014/06/01/ase/
<DocScrutinizer05> ohmy
<DocScrutinizer05> how to teach a Trabant cruise at 200Mph spped, using wheels and engine made of massive gold
<whitequark> huh?
<DocScrutinizer05> I wish I could make that damn Fuji camera talk to the wlan and my linux PC - would't even need to do sprites on a FPGA ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05> the damn thing (.wine/dosdevices/c\:/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/FUJIFILM/FUJIFILM\ PC\ AutoSave/PCAutoSaveSv.exe) already starts and shows up in systray, but it doesn't open any network socket
<DocScrutinizer05> no surprise, I'd say
<DocScrutinizer05> now my eyes started bleeding again since I did a ls of some mono dirs
<DocScrutinizer05> mono/.net sure must be the cancer of computer science
* DocScrutinizer05 clicks on "start.exe" in konqueror, glares at a black window, pukes
<whitequark> mono is nice and .net is a decent runtime
<larsc> how dare you say that. .net is the anti-C!!!!! ;)
* nicksydney_ is staying from .net conversation as has been burned badly before thanks to M$
<whitequark> um, exactly
<whitequark> I consider C the blight on all computing
<whitequark> if something nice was ever written in C, it's despite it being C, not thanks to
<larsc> I'm being sarcastic, or at least trying to be
<DocScrutinizer05> sorry, when *on linux* I see a so-called 'library' consisting of a heap of stinking .exe files, I can't help but puke
<whitequark> nothing wrong with PE
<whitequark> a framing is a framing. don't some systems still use a.out or something?
<viric> is there anything good not written in C?
<whitequark> viric: say, Mirage.
<viric> good name
<viric> I don't know what it is :)
<DocScrutinizer05> size of executables/binaries of mono is same ballpark figure like the *sourcecode* of known_to_be_a_monster libboost
<whitequark> viric: http://www.openmirage.org/
<larsc> ocaml... and you know this is a research project
<viric> larsc: "research project" means "forgive us if you don't like it"
<viric> or "sorry, it's not as good as we expected"
<DocScrutinizer05> mono; 460 files, 126MB
<DocScrutinizer05> libmono-2.0_x86.dll is already 10MB
<whitequark> larsc: fun fact: it's by the same people who wrote xen itself
<whitequark> which is totally a research project except it now powers ummm let me see, amazon, rackspace, linode, and which fraction of the world's datacenters overall?
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<eintopf> _maybe_ to put it on the anelok concurrent list
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