00:01 <DocScrutinizer05> hey, I calim copyright in "zero-factor authentication"! ;-P

00:01 <DocScrutinizer05> claim*

00:02 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm quite happy that it obviosly conveys all implications it meant to

00:02 <DocScrutinizer05> I.E. brilliant marketing, idiotic marketing, not understanding the least bit

00:03 <wpwrak> oh, that was your invention. i thought some marketing creature used it. sorry then :)

00:03 <DocScrutinizer05> and there's an award you could assign to that thing with a bit of liberal interpretation: Darwin Award

00:03 <wpwrak> well, zero-factor means that you need nothing. i.e., not even the (stolen) phone

00:04 <wpwrak> factor = something you have (key, phone, ...) or something you know (pin, password, ...)

00:04 <DocScrutinizer05> well, for doing business via the mobile-banking app it actually is kinda zero-factor

00:05 <DocScrutinizer05> since you already _have_ the phone, when you stole it

00:05 <DocScrutinizer05> that's why I call it zero-factor

00:05 <wpwrak> go to wwww.dumme-bank.de, select "pay me", enter destination and amount, and watch your net worth grow ;-)

00:06 <wpwrak> no, zero-factor would be before stealing the phone

00:06 <DocScrutinizer05> errr, well

00:06 <DocScrutinizer05> I worked in a cinema for years. Do I need to tell more?

00:06 <wpwrak> think of the keys of your home: if you own it, the prospective thief can't get in, but after stealing it, yes

00:07 <wpwrak> well, picking up and abusing things people leave behind is still illegal :)

00:07 <DocScrutinizer05> keys are actually two-factor, key and address aka door

00:07 <wpwrak> indeed. key with "if found, please return to <full address>" then :)

00:07 <DocScrutinizer05> unless you're sily enough to write your address on the key

00:07 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-P

00:08 <wpwrak> c'mon, there are companies offering that sort of return service. so if we can cut out the man in the middle, that's great, right ? :)

00:22 <DocScrutinizer05> you know you're a nerd, when... http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20141117_003.jpg Right to left: mains outlet tripler, urgently needed. Oral-B toothbrush and waterjet, fun! Water tap with LED (blue<25°, green<40°, red) and unusual waterfall alike nozzle, COOL! Soap dispenser with IR light sensor and DIY refill based on a coke bottle lid. DIY lightswitch unusually placed _under_ the mirror locker. Camping Toilet bag. Black

00:22 <DocScrutinizer05> telephone cable mounted with hot glue, and at end of it: remote controller for the digitally controlled "8 wellness programs" water heater. ;-P

00:23 <DocScrutinizer05> s/COOL/luke ( ~30°C -> green)/

00:25 <DocScrutinizer05> (blurr intended ;-D )

00:33 <DocScrutinizer05> you might ask why the remote is placed that awkward. But the shower is directly to the left of it

01:27 <wpwrak> it's a fake. too blurry for a real nerd :)