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<mripard> fiola: patches are indexed and archived on the ML. It's not the case on github/gerrit/whatever
<mripard> and you can actually restrict your searches to a single domain, at least with google
<mripard> and probably with the others
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<wens> mripard: do you know how to test the rtc alarm?
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<mripard> wens: program the alarm, and see if it generates an interrupt?
<mripard> I have to go, but we can discuss this later
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<wens> hmm, slighty difficult in buildroot rootfs
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<wens> ok, took the rtc test program from the kernel docs and copied it over
<wens> looks good
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<rinni> Does anyone know if there is ongoing work / plans to get the code for the AXP209 internal temperature sensor mainline?
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<Hammer> Hello. I need some help with sunxi-ts
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<Hammer> ts_test reports coordinates only while multitouching it
<Hammer> otherwise coords are 0
<Hammer> i use cubieboard3
<Hammer> Linux cubieez 3.4.61+ #8 SMP PREEMPT Mon May 12 09:27:07 ALMT 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
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<wens> rinni: i have patches for that
<rinni> wens: cool, did you post them somewhere?
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<rinni> wens: thanks, I'll try them on the weekend. I guess I only need commit 'hwmon: AXP20x: Add support for basic voltage/current/temperature ADCs', right?
<rinni> wens: I see, I need some more. I'll figure it out myself, thanks ;)
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<oliv3r> ssvb: running 1ghz @ 1.5V now
<oliv3r> temperature is climbing, lets see where this is going, current is around 1 amp
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<zombu2> well i assume it s going up in smoke soon
<zombu2> if you let the magic smoke out of the chips they don t work
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<oliv3r> ssvb: 1.5V doens't fix it; it still crashes at 1008MHz
<ssvb> oliv3r: ok, I see
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<oliv3r> though it seems to crash with illegal instruction rather then segfault though :)
<oliv3r> ssvb: and my sample size atm is 1 :p
<oliv3r> but with a heatsink ;)
<oliv3r> how likley is it that not all chips can infact run stable at 1008MHz?
<oliv3r> for safety reasons alone I will run all our stock at 960 MHz
<oliv3r> or maybe just do thermal throtteling or something
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<zombu2> illegal instruction is about just as bad a segfault heh
<zombu2> i d point my finger at ram screwing up .......does it also increase ram clock??
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<Turl> "Friday Free Board Quiz – Week #93 prize is A20-OLinuXino-LIME"
<nedko> and you have to have twitter account :(
<Turl> yeah that sucks a bit
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<Johnson> When building u-boot, what build target do i need to choose for sun7i?
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<Turl> Johnson: the one for your device
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<Johnson> Turl: I understand but the tutorial states that I need to target sun7i, which isn't listed.
<Johnson> Does that mean it isn't supported?
<Turl> Johnson: what tutorial?
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<wens> now why would you look at an old revision of the page?
<Johnson> wens: 'cause the current one has no details about manual building
<Johnson> It's the only info I could find. So I don't know which target I need now
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<wens> Johnson: that's because no one bothered to do the NDH stuff and make it available i guess
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<wens> the 'sun7i' target is for allwinner's sdk, not sunxi
<wens> hence it was removed
<Johnson> wens: Makes sense. Is the NDH stuff doable by myself?
<wens> yes, follow the guide
<Johnson> wens: If I already have a sys_config.fex from the manufacturer. Could I skip certain parts?
<wens> if you're sure it matches the device
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<Johnson> wens: I'm 99% sure. It was used by the manufacturer to make images. I'll walk trough the NDH when this fex fails. But where in the process do I need to start when I assume that the fex file is correct?
<rinni> wens: I applied the patches from your axp209-hwmon branch but I can't figure where to find it in /sys
<libv> Johnson: just walk through the ndh guide completely
<libv> Johnson: you're just wasting your own and our time otherwise
<wens> rinni: you still have to enable the driver
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<wens> rinni: anyway i haven't used them in a while, maybe they were broken after i rebased them
<rinni> wens: I did that... OK; I try to check some more... thanks!
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<Johnson> I'm gonna take my time to do the whole NDH for the PhoenixA20. When I try to get the DRAM info i get this message: /system/bin/sh: a10-meminfo-static: not found. Any ideas on whats going wrong?
<Johnson> The file is in the directory. I pushed it there and I can see it when I "ls"
<Johnson> I chmodded it aswel, but it doesn't work
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<Johnson> Nevermind, I'm an idiot
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<Johnson> Had to tell bash that it was in the current directory.
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<Johnson> libv: If the DRAM doesn't output a size for in the DRAM file, is it safe to leave it at 1024?
<Johnson> ".size = 1024" is the entry i mean :)
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<Turl> Johnson: that's the RAM size
<Turl> 1024 is 1G
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<Johnson> Turl: Okay that means that 1024 is correct. I think I'm making progress. Do you mind if I hit you up with any additional questions I might have tonight? :)
<Turl> sure, just ask them here, I'll probably be around
<ssvb_> Johnson: the dram size parameter is not used by u-boot
<ssvb_> but you can set it to something reasonable
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<Johnson> Turl: Tried building uboot after going trough the steps of adding the needed info. It says it can't find configs/a20_phoenix.h Is this a file I also need to create?
<Turl> I've never seen that one
<Turl> can you paste the output of git diff?
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<Johnson> Turl: Ah, that is the only step I didn't do. Pushing to the repo. Is this essential for it to work?
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<Vanfanel> Hi, cubietech people: Will MALI binary drivers r4p0 ever be released for Cubietruck/Cubieboard2? Current r3p2 is horribly outdated
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<Turl> Vanfanel: you'd be better off asking that on their forums or via email I suppose
<Turl> this is a community channel
<Turl> Vanfanel: any reason why you want newer blobs btw?
<Turl> they tend to have new ugly bugs as well
<Vanfanel> Turl: r3 ones are very slow
<Vanfanel> uploading a texture is SLOOOW
<Vanfanel> I've heard r4 is way better
<Turl> I seriously doubt a new blob will make such operations any faster
<ssvb_> Vanfanel: how are you uploading textures?
<Turl> but you can ask libv :)
<libv> Vanfanel: why is it outdated?
<ssvb_> Vanfanel: maybe you should have a look at the compositing window managers, such as kwin_gles to see how they are successfully using the Texture from Pixmap extension?
<libv> hrm, so uploading a texture is slow, i am not sure why that should be so
<libv> the code for properly ordering a texture so that the fragment shader can more easily interpolate is pretty hard to make any faster
<libv> so it might be that this was disabled
<libv> which gives you a slow upload, but a few percent off of your framerate
<libv> chose your poison.
<Vanfanel> libv: it's slow on MALI, not on LIMA. Are you also working on MALI?
<Vanfanel> ssvb_: using GLES2. Nothing fancy. I found out because RetroArch, which has performance counters, says image drawing is taking a lot of time versus, let's say, Raspberry pi
<libv> Vanfanel: are you using this swizzling on lima?
<ssvb_> Vanfanel: are you using GLES and texture upload in exactly the same way on the Raspberry Pi?
<ssvb_> Vanfanel: there are dumb and clever ways to do the same thing, please double check that the Raspberry Pi does not have a shortcut to offload some scaling work to the display controller instead of using GLES
<ssvb_> Vanfanel: based on your complaints that I keep hearing for maybe half a year already, RetroArch only needs primitive scaling
<ssvb_> Vanfanel: anyone with half a clue could have resolved this problem ages ago
<libv> urgh, that's terrible
<libv> why can people not learn to use the right tool for the job?
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<libv> and then complain by stating that one thing is "outdated" and then go straight on to complain that texture upload is faster with the newer one
<libv> what is it, outdated, or is just texture upload faster?
<KEPTEIN> Hi guys, i just disassembled my novo7 with hope finding UART RX/TX ports, and i think i did.
<KEPTEIN> Here is the picture http://postimg.org/image/vm4vi5gvx
<libv> Vanfanel: do you have a kernel with r4p0 driver support running
<KEPTEIN> What di you think?
<libv> KEPTEIN: test it according to our UART howto
<libv> KEPTEIN: follow our new device howto
<libv> heh, was still in the pastebuffer
<libv> KEPTEIN: this howto takes you through the whole process.
<libv> including uart
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<KEPTEIN> libv, thanks for link, i have used uart a couple of times before and am familar with it :)
<Vanfanel> libv: no, on the cubie2 I don't have one. On the U3 yes.
<KEPTEIN> But i was wondering about setup, is 115200 the only speed board chips are using, cause i just get some garbage
<ssvb_> Vanfanel: are you using identical GLES code on U3 and cubie2?
<ssvb_> Vanfanel: can you show the sources?
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<libv> KEPTEIN: the locating of the pins is described in detail in the uart howto
<libv> KEPTEIN: but work through the new device howto first
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<Vanfanel> ssvb_, libv: this same code is executed in both U3 and Cubie2. With r4p0 on U3, this is A LOT faster (texture uploading for scaling): https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/blob/master/gfx/gl.c
<Vanfanel> with certain non-GLES2 extension, it could be faster (glTexSubImage2D()) but both boards are plain GLES2 with no special extensions
<libv> Vanfanel: tell me that you are joking.
<libv> Vanfanel: you are comparing an A20 with an exynos4 quad?
<Vanfanel> libv: no, just the image uploading part, not the emulation
<Vanfanel> obvously exynos4 quad runs circles about the poor A20 for emulation
<libv> Vanfanel: don't you think that a quad A9 at 1.8GHz is going to be a tad quicker at swizzling a texture than a dual A7 at 1GHz?
<Vanfanel> but RetroArch's performance counters are separated
<Vanfanel> libv: yes and no. The A20 is supposed to be slower but not that slower... it takes almost double the time!
<libv> Vanfanel: also, A20 has pretty poor memory bandwidth compared to exynos4
<libv> 1Ghz versus 1.8GHz
<Vanfanel> exynos4 was also this slow with r3pX, libv
<Vanfanel> then with r4p0 it became a lot faster
<Vanfanel> that's why I am asking if r4p0 will come out for the Cubie2
<libv> well, someone should go look at what the new code is doing different
<libv> but i am not going to be on lima for the forseeable weeks
<libv> Vanfanel: as soon as you port the r4p0 kernel driver to sunxi-3.4
<libv> then r4p0 userspace should work
<Vanfanel> are we stuck on a 3.4 kernel forever?
<Vanfanel> with the CB2 I mean
<libv> Vanfanel: not forever, but for the forseeable future
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<Vanfanel> libv: well, thans for your answers
<libv> Vanfanel: since retroarch seems to be well instrumented, it would be nice to see the performance difference between r3p2 and r4p0
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<libv> Vanfanel: linux-exynos.org seems like the perfect place for a wiki page on that
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<Vanfanel> libv: on exynos it has other problems, like tiling and tearing
<libv> what do you mean with "problem" and "tiling"?
<libv> you see tiles in between frames?
<Vanfanel> yes, I can see where the emulation draws frames in tiles
<libv> this is caused by the same issue that causes tearing
<Vanfanel> I can also see tearing and artifacts
<libv> bad synchronization
<Vanfanel> yes, somewhere in the code, frame swapping is not done during vsync
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<libv> bad interaction of display driver, mali kernel driver, and mali userspace
<Vanfanel> but I just want to use RA like I do on the Raspberry Pi: no tearing, no artifacts. Slow for many 16 bit systems, yes, but awesome for 8bits.
<Vanfanel> Perfect frames
<Vanfanel> I got the U3 and the CB2 for a better CPU, but driver support is.. well...
<libv> Vanfanel: the thing is, you do not need the 3d engine for scaling
<libv> Vanfanel: our display engine is pretty good at scaling
<Vanfanel> No ne has figured out how to use G2D on U3
<libv> sure, you don't get 4x msaa with our display engine, but it has some filtering in there
<Vanfanel> It's the equivalent to DispmanX on the PI, as far as I understand
<libv> display, not 2d accel
<libv> g2d is 2d acceleration
<Vanfanel> No, I don't need any filters or fancy fsaa
<Vanfanel> just hardware scaling AND good video synchronization (doublebuffer, vsync)
<Vanfanel> but so far only r3pX on the CB2, with MALI on FBDEV can do that
<libv> my feeling is that they just disabled swizzling
<Vanfanel> the U3 people you mean? mdrjr?
<libv> or the arm people
<libv> to get the speed increase
<libv> it does require a bit of nasty cpu work, or a pass with the gpu
<libv> hrm... let me see what the difference in call was again
<Vanfanel> I don't know... but it's been a year, as ssvb_ said. I'm back to Rpi and fanless X86 with integrated Intel graphics. There it's just build kernel + modules and I get accelerated and perfect frames with KMS/EGL.
<libv> Vanfanel: use glSubImage2D
<libv> to upload the frames
<libv> and then the driver will not swizzle
<Vanfanel> are we talking about U3 or about CB2?
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<libv> glTexSubImage2D vs glTexImage2D
<Vanfanel> in CB2, there's no tearing/tiling. It's on U3. CB2 is just slow on uploading.
<libv> Vanfanel: look it up, alter the code, and bench the difference on CB2
<ssvb_> RetroArch sources also seem to have some references to mipmaps generation, maybe this could be disabled?
<libv> s/could/should/
<libv> if you're just scaling and nothing else, that is
<libv> the Q3A cut scene is done using glTexSubImage2D so that no swizzling or compression takes place
<Vanfanel> ssvb_: can you point to what should be disabled, please?
<libv> ...
<Vanfanel> at least with some 2-3% more free CPU, I could get fullspeed snes on the CB2
<libv> look into using an overlay with disp
<Vanfanel> libv: glSubImage2D? Do you mean glTexSubImage2D, right?
<Vanfanel> an overlay, do you mean a plane like in KMS/DRM?
<libv> Vanfanel: read a few lines down from where you got the first
<libv> plane is intel speak
<libv> and kms planes is a just started thought, not even an unfinished one
<libv> but yes
<libv> read up on how to use disp
<Vanfanel> disp is a 2D API for MALI?
<libv> Vanfanel: no.
<libv> mali is a gpu or 3d engine only.
<libv> 2d is 2d acceleration
<libv> display is something different entirely
<libv> i think i tried to explain this to you 5 minutes ago
<Vanfanel> look, I am not a native english speaker. You said "read up on how to use disp". I don't know what disp is. An API?
<Vanfanel> I know what a display is
<Vanfanel> but you said disp
<Vanfanel> that's a response I can use, thanks
<libv> the allwinner created sunxi display driver is called disp
<libv> you could've searched our wiki for that yourself too
<Vanfanel> yes, sorry. Anyway, is there a basic demo/example of this disp API?
<Vanfanel> someting drawing a double-buffered simple thing with vsync
<Vanfanel> ^something
<Vanfanel> well, driver, I mean
<Vanfanel> it's not an API but a driver
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<libv> oh wow
<libv> that was december
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<KEPTEIN> libv hi, it's me again =)
<KEPTEIN> your utility syste_noise
<KEPTEIN> does it print "Flooding.."" even if i dont have serial onboard?
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<oliv3r_> Turl: i like your suggestion of --no-install-suggets, but mysql is a dependancy, not a suggested package :(
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<Turl> blue == suggest
<oliv3r> yes, but owncloud requires mediawiki-classes for some reason
<oliv3r> and mediawiki need mysql
<Turl> mediawiki-classes doesn't depend on anything
<oliv3r> well it still wants to pull it all in!
<Turl> and even for mediawiki, it's a recommended package
<Turl> not a dep
<oliv3r> ok so how do I make it not pull mysql in :p
<Turl> --no-install-suggests --no-install-recommends should do the trick
<oliv3r> but it still wants mysql :p
<oliv3r> libphp-phpmailer libplrpc-perl mediawiki mysql-client mysql-client-5.5
<oliv3r> in the 'will be installed' section
<Turl> oliv3r: what about 'apt-get install owncloud-sqlite'
<oliv3r> O.o
<oliv3r> lets see
<oliv3r> yeah that package actually exists
<oliv3r> i wonder if it existed 3 months ago :p
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<Turl> oliv3r: it's a virtual package
<oliv3r> yeah but i did search for packages as such
<oliv3r> maybe i didn't ...
<Turl> it's even in precise :p
<oliv3r> this is wheezy :p
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<oliv3r> but owncloud-sqlite seems to hit the spot
<oliv3r> Turl: thank you! hero :)
<Turl> ah, right, you're on debian
<Turl> I thought you were on linaro
<Turl> yw :)
<oliv3r> yeah
<oliv3r> i'm just supprised i missed it before
<oliv3r> that makes my apt line much much easier
<oliv3r> and doesn't need --no-*
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<rz2k> [23:55:57] <libv> then r4p0 userspace should work - that wont bang because iirc theres only two r4p0 userspaces available, x11+drm+dmabuf armhf (hardkernel mali ddk + armsoc xorg) and fb armel (from amlogic).
<oliv3r> Turl: oh, actually, that package is a some weird meta package
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<oliv3r> Turl: it doesn't depend on owncloud nor installs owncloud
<rz2k> libv: so as far as I understand, since we dont have sunxi-drm and all the drm things that armsoc wants, r4p0 from hardkernel will not work.
<oliv3r> and i can't install owncloud together with owncloud-sqlite
<Turl> oliv3r: apt-get install owncloud owncloud-sqlite doesn't work?
<oliv3r> owncloud : Depends: php-getid3 (>= 1.9.5~) but 1.9.3-1+deb7u1 is to be installed
<oliv3r> :(
<oliv3r> that's dumb
<oliv3r> i thought only gentoo had crap like that
<Turl> oliv3r: make sure you're apt-get update'd
<Turl> that's a package missing a rebuild
<oliv3r> yeah i'm doing that now
<Turl> or you missing some suite/misconfigured sources.list
<oliv3r> the install was rather old
<oliv3r> right, that is done
<oliv3r> i don't get why owncloud-sqlite doesn't pull in owncloud however
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<oliv3r> Turl: you sure it's not simply that they decided to depend on php-getid3 1.9.5, but there is no such package yet
<Turl> are you getting your owncloud from some other place other than wheezy-backports?
<oliv3r> ok so backports has it
<oliv3r> how can i check
<Turl> did you add some other apt source to install owncloud?
<oliv3r> says that it is only in backports anyway
<oliv3r> nope
<Turl> ok then
<Turl> you should be fine
<oliv3r> only 2 lines in my sources.list, wheezy and wheezy-backports
<oliv3r> only the main suits though
<oliv3r> if should just pull in the backports version, but it seems to ignore it
<HeavyMetal> hi I am wondering if anyone got Linux to boot from the NAND of an A10 device? I am trying to get the MK802ii to boot from the NAND but so far it is not happening
<HeavyMetal> been following this https://linux-sunxi.org/Installing_to_NAND
<Turl> oliv3r: check apt-cache policy php-getid3
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<oliv3r> does have all versions that we need
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<Turl> oliv3r: ah, yeah, backports has lower weight
<Turl> easy to fix :)
<oliv3r> -t wheezy-backports?
<Turl> add -t wheezy-backports to the apt command
<Turl> yeah
<oliv3r> root@PacktPublishing:/# apt-get install -t wheezy-backports owncloud-sqlite owncloud
<oliv3r> btw, only you and some other dude ended up reviewing most stuff
* boycottg00gle got stuck in fex chaos for A20-OLinuXino-MICRO
<oliv3r> boycottg00gle: howso
<boycottg00gle> not sure which version is the "right" one
<oliv3r> what is the problem exactly?
<boycottg00gle> at first i wanted to replace a lcd7 with lcd10
<oliv3r> should be a default fex for that from olimex
<boycottg00gle> then i found sunxi-boards was updated
<boycottg00gle> can't find the fex directly from olimex
<boycottg00gle> only found a script.bin i converted back to fex
<boycottg00gle> now have 3 versions :(
<boycottg00gle> but maybe i should just get a sleep and tomorrow all will be fine
<boycottg00gle> one of the stranger changes:
<boycottg00gle> lcd_frm: 0 to disable dither; 1 to enable enable rgb666 dither; 2 to enable rgb656 dither
<Turl> oliv3r: heh, what happened with the rest?
<oliv3r> owncloud : Conflicts: owncloud-sqlite
<oliv3r> Turl: http://sprunge.us/ccRh
<Turl> oliv3r: such fun :p
<oliv3r> Turl: hramrach went awol
<oliv3r> benjamin never did anything either
<oliv3r> melita recruited some UK indian guy
<boycottg00gle> oliv3r: should i better search on olimex site for fex or use the one from sunxi-boards?
<Turl> oliv3r: can you do apt-get install -t wheezy-backports owncloud-sqlite --dry-run
<oliv3r> who was nitpicking on spelling and grammar
<Turl> oliv3r: I thouht you had hno as reviewer
<oliv3r> yeah haven't seen comment from him at all
<Turl> on jessie it does better magic :p
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<oliv3r> Turl: could it be that i purged the previous owncloud installation?
<oliv3r> and autoremoved the rest
<Turl> try a dry run with just owncloud then
<oliv3r> (the one with mysql crap in it)
<Turl> that shouldn't cause trouble
<oliv3r> huge ass list
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<Turl> with mysql on it?
<oliv3r> yep
<Turl> then add no suggests/recommends
<oliv3r> i don't understand why owncloud-sqlite does not depend on owncloud, what's the point
<oliv3r> yeah i did
<Turl> oliv3r: probably some artifact of the backport
<Turl> on jessie it seems to be the case
<oliv3r> bah
<oliv3r> i installed owncloud-sqlite; now i install owncloud ontop of that, nad I get:
<oliv3r> The following packages will be REMOVED: owncloud-sqlite
<oliv3r> how dumb is that
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<oliv3r> hmm i don't see mysql in the list anymore though, then again my eyes are Very tired :p
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<oliv3r> Turl: i'll leave a tip that on jessie the meta package can be used
<oliv3r> i'm affraid however that mysql can't be bypassed in wheezy backports
<Turl> the changelog seems to indicate they wanted to kill the metapackage hm
<oliv3r> so how change it
<Turl> anyway, on any version, you should be able to --no-install-suggests and get rid of mysql
<Turl> you could also do something like
<Turl> "owncloud mysql-server-" (notice the extra -)
<Turl> that would uninstall it if the user installed it beforehand though
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<oliv3r> ok i try tomorrow
<oliv3r> ty!!!
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<Turl> oliv3r: np :)
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